Panasonic GM1 - A Sweet Kit! Pics and Size Comparisons

…even with the excellent LCD, I am often defeated for composition. I just cannot see the LCD well enough what with my glasses, the generally bright light around here, and whatnot.

Also, I find the Panny 45-150 (slightly smaller than the excellent Oly 40-150) a bit unhandy on the GM1, just a bit too big.

Great little handful with the 12-32, of course.

Cheers, geoff

Amen Tom!

Le Frog wrote:

That was quick! Thanks (and pity that we will still have to wait for some informed opinion on the relative strengths and weaknesses of the two pancakes). Did you find that the low speed flash sync was too much of a limitation for low light/indoors or fill in flash/portait photography? Did you miss the longer reach of the RX100 zoom, or were you happy to carry the 45 with you and switch lenses?
(I have almost decided to get a GM1 myself, as a carry-everywhere camera, but I just found an excellent deal on an RX100II. And I am still debating with myself on the 9-18 and the Panasonic 14-140 II; I have never tried ultra-wides and I am still unsure about their usefulness/versatility and the 14-140 seems to negate the advantages of the GM1 diminutive dimensions).

I never ever use flash... Couldn't be bothered and with today's fast primes and high ISO I just never need it. I either carry the 45 or the 60 along with the kit zoom if I'm going very light, or take the 40-150 for tele shots.

The 14-140 isn't small. If you're looking at that zoom range try the Oly 14-150 but it's not OIS.

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burnymeister wrote:

Having owned both cameras, I can very confidently say that you're very wrong on this point! I can carry the GM1+12-32mm in a small padded Lowe Pro case on my backpack's shoulder strap - the same one my Sony RX100II fit into. The E-M5 wouldn't even fit thelens in that small case!

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Ben O Connor wrote:

Sir,

I must admit, you are the most hated person on the forum right now!!!

Do you have all these ? Man, my wife simply would throw me off from the balcony

apart from jokes, seriously nice set of gears. Its sad to that no IS on GM1, but as sad there is no possibility mounting it on a tripod while the grip is attached. That would be a benefit, truly.

apart from you, I'd go for gray/black body and silver Olympus lenses... And maybe, instead of owning 20m Panasonic and 12mm Olympus I'd go for 15mm latest leica lens. But well, if you have enough resources, why would you compromise !

lovely set. Enjoy your photography.

Ben

ps': please use this lovely cam by a custom made leather hand strap.

LOL - thanks Ben! Would you hate me even more if I told you that I have the 15mm on pre-order? I considered not getting the 12mm but I love that FL and it works good for astrophotography. There is still a large difference between 24 and 30mm. The 15 will be a perfect walk-around prime with the 12 and the 60 on the pack belt or in the pack for wides, macro and medium tele.

Lots of options with this kit!

Hen3ry wrote:

…even with the excellent LCD, I am often defeated for composition. I just cannot see the LCD well enough what with my glasses, the generally bright light around here, and whatnot.

Also, I find the Panny 45-150 (slightly smaller than the excellent Oly 40-150) a bit unhandy on the GM1, just a bit too big.

Great little handful with the 12-32, of course.

Cheers, geoff

I hear ya Geoff. I thought I'd really not like the LCD but considering the E-M10 will take care of the 'viewfinder issue', the GM1's lack of VF is a compromise I can live with. And like I said, it actually assists in a lot of situations because the AF is so fast. But in bright, snow it can be hard to see from some angles.

Hi

I use the GM1 with a clearviewer and find the combo works very will in bright light and with longer lenses.

Berni

DxO reviews Leica 15mm. Its just between my two next FL decision (12mm oly & 17mm oly) and also financially in between as well...

lets see...

Ben

Le Frog wrote:

That was quick! Thanks (and pity that we will still have to wait for some informed opinion on the relative strengths and weaknesses of the two pancakes). Did you find that the low speed flash sync was too much of a limitation for low light/indoors or fill in flash/portait photography? Did you miss the longer reach of the RX100 zoom, or were you happy to carry the 45 with you and switch lenses?
(I have almost decided to get a GM1 myself, as a carry-everywhere camera, but I just found an excellent deal on an RX100II. And I am still debating with myself on the 9-18 and the Panasonic 14-140 II; I have never tried ultra-wides and I am still unsure about their usefulness/versatility and the 14-140 seems to negate the advantages of the GM1 diminutive dimensions).

I never ever use flash... Couldn't be bothered and with today's fast primes and high ISO I just never need it. I either carry the 45 or the 60 along with the kit zoom if I'm going very light, or take the 40-150 for tele shots.

The 14-140 isn't small. If you're looking at that zoom range try the Oly 14-150 but it's not OIS.

Panasonic's newer 14-140 is actually shorter than either Oly 45-150 (and only like 5mm wider). It's heavier for sure tho, which probably contributes more to balance (or lack thereof), it's certainly not larger tho.

Oops, for some reason I read that wrong, the new Panasonic 14-140 is still the smaller/lighter superzoom tho.

FrankS009 wrote:

We don't all wear skinny jeans! A genuine take anywhere camera. The best camera you have with you is a darn good one in this case.

F.

If you can fit that camera and ANY lens in a pants pocket, you seriously need a fashion style update, but then again, this place is all old people, so you've probably thrown in the towel by this point, and you are going to have to explain to people why you look so 'excited' to see them.

Even tho I agree with you to an extent, that was pretty rude and uncalled for... He didn't even say anything about actually fitting it into his pants. I'm 31 and we don't really have a winter season in Puerto Rico, so the difference between carrying a GM1 and an E-PL5 or GF6 is next to none, at least as a guy who's gonna have to grab a dedicated bag for it (unless I leave the house with it on my shoulder and the 20mm in my pocket)... I can see how it would make a difference for a woman carrying it in her purse tho, a very big difference if it's a small purse, and there's definitely a difference vs a an OMD.

Ben O Connor wrote:

DxO reviews Leica 15mm. Its just between my two next FL decision (12mm oly & 17mm oly) and also financially in between as well...

lets see...

Ben

Hey Ben, I agree with you. I love the 17mm FL too, but having a 12, 15 and 17 just seems like overkill doesn't it?!

To me the 15 replaces the 17 and 20 as a walk around prime since I prefer slightly wider. It doesn't replace the 12mm because there's a pretty big difference in the FOV between 24 and 30mm - YMMV of course.

I also think the 15 will look very sexy on either the GM1 or the E-M10 and since I'm an 'aperture' shooter, I love that option too.

LH wrote:

Ben O Connor wrote:

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apart from jokes, seriously nice set of gears. Its sad to that no IS on GM1, but as sad there is no possibility mounting it on a tripod while the grip is attached. That would be a benefit, truly.

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Lack of tripod mounting while grip is attached is just a Panasonic grip limitation. Some of the 3rd party grips give you a tripod socket on the grip.

Do you own this grip?

If so does it provide a good hand position, most reviews of the Panasonic grip feel it's too close to the camera body edge for the best grip?

Kirk

burnymeister wrote:

Hen3ry wrote:

…even with the excellent LCD, I am often defeated for composition. I just cannot see the LCD well enough what with my glasses, the generally bright light around here, and whatnot.

Also, I find the Panny 45-150 (slightly smaller than the excellent Oly 40-150) a bit unhandy on the GM1, just a bit too big.

Great little handful with the 12-32, of course.

Cheers, geoff

I hear ya Geoff. I thought I'd really not like the LCD but considering the E-M10 will take care of the 'viewfinder issue', the GM1's lack of VF is a compromise I can live with. And like I said, it actually assists in a lot of situations because the AF is so fast. But in bright, snow it can be hard to see from some angles.

For those of you that own the GM1 the one issue commented on the most in reviews is the rear control dial and how hard it is to turn without also pressing it down which causes an adjustment to a different setting.

What is your experience with the rear dial?

Thanks,

Kirk