Sigma 50mm f1.4 Art and bokeh (new pics 4/11/2014)

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Nexu1 Senior Member • Posts: 2,746
Sigma 50mm f1.4 Art and bokeh (new pics 4/11/2014)

The Nikon 50mm's get criticized for bokeh. Here are some new images from the new Sig 50mm f1.4 ART. Thoughts?

http://www.thephoblographer.com/2014/04/11/sample-images-sigma-50mm-f1-4-ii-art/#.U0fqtbtOXmJ

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arrr Senior Member • Posts: 1,910
Re: Sigma 50mm f1.4 Art and bokeh (new pics 4/11/2014)

I want one...

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HomoSapiensWannaBe Regular Member • Posts: 265
Re: Sigma 50mm f1.4 Art and bokeh (new pics 4/11/2014)

Nice, and I'm tempted as a happy 35/1.4 ART owner.   However, if like me, you are considering Fuji X to go along with your Nikon setup, the 56mm/F1.2 is another way to spend your $1000!   Different FOV, of course, but the bokeh from the Fuji 56mm is gorgeous!

alabaster Senior Member • Posts: 1,581
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Hmmm - it looks a bit nervous, a bit like the 35mm f1.4 to me.

I'm far from a Nikon fanboy, but the 58mm f1.4 is just gorgeous.

(all with respect to bokeh)

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samhain Senior Member • Posts: 1,246
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Looks damn good to me. Handled that shot of the tree branch with a busy background really well. I'd say optically it's a winner.

Albert Contributing Member • Posts: 813
Re: Sigma 50mm f1.4 Art and bokeh (new pics 4/11/2014)

I own the sigma 50mm f2.8 macro. This lens is sharper but the f2.8 has much better bokeh. The Nikon 58mm has better bokeh as does the Zeiss.

Disappointed.. I really thought I'd wanted one, had my money ready.

azotor Forum Member • Posts: 57
Re: Sigma 50mm f1.4 Art and bokeh (new pics 4/11/2014)

typical sigma bokeh.

I believe the focusing speed should be faster than nikon counterpart.

I would get one if I didn't have the old sigma 50mm f1.4.

waiting for sigma 24mm f1.4 , 135mm f1.8 and 600 f4 (weight less than 3.9kg).

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JOrmsby Regular Member • Posts: 242
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If you have a Nikon set up, why would you want to pay $1k for a Fuji portrait lens when you could get the incredible Nikkor 85 1.8 for half that?

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(unknown member) Senior Member • Posts: 1,144
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Nexu1 wrote:

The Nikon 50mm's get criticized for bokeh. Here are some new images from the new Sig 50mm f1.4 ART. Thoughts?

http://www.thephoblographer.com/2014/04/11/sample-images-sigma-50mm-f1-4-ii-art/#.U0fqtbtOXmJ

These shots don't tell me much. Almost every shot was taken in less-than-ideal shooting conditions. The bokeh is clearly better than the 35mm 1/4 Art (big surprise), but until someone shoots this lens side-by-side against the Nikon or the Otus, I'll withhold judgment.

For me to consider this lens, it needs to have bokeh that approximates that of the Nikon 85mm 1/4G. I don't need a sharp 50mm lens.  But I could use a "short 85mm" portrait lens.

benjaminblack
benjaminblack Contributing Member • Posts: 589
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The big question: is the Sigma 4 times better than the 50 1.8G?? I'd love to see shots sidebyside from each. I'm sure we will soon! Is it twice as good as the 50 1.4G? Nikon makes such good/cheap 50's already, so the Sigma will have to make a strong case.

On the other end, the Sigma has to convince Canon/Nikon shooters to give up on soft creamy bokeh coming from the 58 1.4G and the 50 1.2L. When you're spending $1000 on the Sigma, it migh be worth it to some, to spend a little extra for bokeh. The Sigma is going to make you choose between clinical sharpness and artistic bokeh.

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(unknown member) Veteran Member • Posts: 3,441
Re: Sigma 50mm f1.4 Art and bokeh (new pics 4/11/2014)

The Nikon 50mm's get criticized for bokeh. Here are some new images from the new Sig 50mm f1.4 ART.

Thank You for sharing.

Thoughts?

I Think my old and already Sold Tamron Model 19AH has a lot better DOF and Bokeh compared with this.

(unknown member) Senior Member • Posts: 1,144
Re: Sigma 50mm f1.4 Art and bokeh (new pics 4/11/2014)

benjaminblack wrote:

The big question: is the Sigma 4 times better than the 50 1.8G?? I'd love to see shots sidebyside from each. I'm sure we will soon! Is it twice as good as the 50 1.4G? Nikon makes such good/cheap 50's already, so the Sigma will have to make a strong case.

On the other end, the Sigma has to convince Canon/Nikon shooters to give up on soft creamy bokeh coming from the 58 1.4G and the 50 1.2L. When you're spending $1000 on the Sigma, it migh be worth it to some, to spend a little extra for bokeh. The Sigma is going to make you choose between clinical sharpness and artistic bokeh.

If it does, then I won't be buying.

I don't use 50mm much.  I have the 50mm 1.8G, which is a very nice lens and plenty sharp. I also have a number of sharp zooms that cover this range very well. Therefore, I'm not in the market for another "sharp" lenns.

Hence, unless the 50mm Art series can give the Canon 1.2L and Nikon 58mm G a run for the money in the area of bokeh, the decision is an easy one for me.

David Whysong Contributing Member • Posts: 585
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Looks fairly neutral, definitely better than the Nikon 50s, but not the equal of the 58.

Should be a very nice lens.

colombiano Contributing Member • Posts: 530
Re: Sigma 50mm f1.4 Art and bokeh (new pics 4/11/2014)

Carsten Pauer 2 wrote:

The Nikon 50mm's get criticized for bokeh. Here are some new images from the new Sig 50mm f1.4 ART.

Thank You for sharing.

Thoughts?

I Think my old and already Sold Tamron Model 19AH has a lot better DOF and Bokeh compared with this.

With your background (flat as flat can be) any lens can deliver great bokeh....

Regards,

colombiano Contributing Member • Posts: 530
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Some more examples at lenstip:

http://www.lenstip.com/2084-news-Sigma_A_50_mm_f_1.4_DG_HSM_-_sample_images.html

To me, it's very good, without ring highlights and it's smooth in the back and also in front of focus plane - even in most demanding bokeh shots with trees branches backround.  It's also very sharp and contrasty at 1.4! (look at postbox photo). If I'd be in market for a 50mm lens, this would be definitely strong contender. I have a Zeiss Planar 50mm 1.4 and it can't be compared to this Sigma - Zeiss is inferior. From what I could conclude from those pictures, my Zeiss is about equal at F2.8 to Sigma at F1.4 (comparing central sharpness and contrast)...

It seems that Sigma has another winner here...

Regards,

(unknown member) Veteran Member • Posts: 3,441
Re: Sigma 50mm f1.4 Art and bokeh (new pics 4/11/2014)

With your background (flat as flat can be) any lens can deliver great bokeh....

The Background is not really flat.
Probably this Photo with "nervous" Background is better ?

colombiano Contributing Member • Posts: 530
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Carsten Pauer 2 wrote:

With your background (flat as flat can be) any lens can deliver great bokeh....

The Background is not really flat.
Probably this Photo with "nervous" Background is better ?

If I understand correctly, your Tamron lens is not an 50mm lens and certainly not an F1.4 lens. We can all show examples of beautiful bokeh with various lens with various apertures - I can show example of much better bokeh shot with lowly Nikkor 55-200VR lens and claim it's a better lens than new Sigma 50 1.4. But that's not the point - let's not compare apples to pineapples...

Regards,

paulski66
paulski66 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,168
Re: Sigma 50mm f1.4 Art and bokeh (new pics 4/11/2014)

Carsten Pauer 2 wrote:

The Nikon 50mm's get criticized for bokeh. Here are some new images from the new Sig 50mm f1.4 ART.

Thank You for sharing.

Thoughts?

I Think my old and already Sold Tamron Model 19AH has a lot better DOF and Bokeh compared with this.

What does "has a lot better DoF" mean?

The Sigma image you linked to is superior to the above image, despite a much more demanding background.

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TQGroup Senior Member • Posts: 1,307
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colombiano wrote:

Some more examples at lenstip:

http://www.lenstip.com/2084-news-Sigma_A_50_mm_f_1.4_DG_HSM_-_sample_images.html

To me, it's very good, without ring highlights and it's smooth in the back and also in front of focus plane - even in most demanding bokeh shots with trees branches backround. It's also very sharp and contrasty at 1.4! (look at postbox photo). If I'd be in market for a 50mm lens, this would be definitely strong contender. I have a Zeiss Planar 50mm 1.4 and it can't be compared to this Sigma - Zeiss is inferior. From what I could conclude from those pictures, my Zeiss is about equal at F2.8 to Sigma at F1.4 (comparing central sharpness and contrast)...

It seems that Sigma has another winner here...

Regards,

I've also had a quick look at Lens Tip's photos concentrating on the F1.4 images.

To my eye, the "bokeh" looks very Sigma-typical with pronounced circular highlights that I do not like at all; viz the fifth image down, centre column and just look at the highlights on those cars...

The necessary sharpness is certainly there but, IMHO, the images of this very beautiful woman render rather "flat" with no "pop" at all. They certainly do not make her look "even more beautiful!"

Based on my very quick assessment of these photos, and I'd like to see a lot more before forming a definite opinion, I suggest this lens will be ideal for recording "faithful" images rather than rendering "beautiful" images. From this first impression, there is certainly no "ART" about this lens!

Still, one swallow does not a summer make...

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