Why don't people turn their flash OFF in stadiums?

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Paul B Jones
Paul B Jones Senior Member • Posts: 1,899
Re: Why don't people turn their flash OFF in stadiums?

Yeah, the stadium flash thing is kind of a sad phenomenon. It's not quite as basic as cutting with the bladed side of a saw or writing with the inky end of a pen. But it's edging quite strongly in that direction. So much for the wisdom of crowds.

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enemjii Senior Member • Posts: 1,889
Re: Why don't people turn their flash OFF in stadiums?

That would be boring.

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Re: Why don't people turn their flash OFF in stadiums?

With my Olympus E-PL5, my answer is to not attach the flash.  I usually leave it at home.

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Re: Why don't people turn their flash OFF in stadiums?

Ah, thanks for pointing out the obvious.

Put a steaming cloth on it... Draw out the poison!!

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Roonal_Z Contributing Member • Posts: 557
Re: Why don't people turn their flash OFF in stadiums?

meland wrote:

...for not knowing the steps in Morris Dancing ...

I certainly don't know the steps, though I have seen a couple of Morris Dance demonstrations (at Contra dances).

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Re: Why don't people turn their flash OFF in stadiums?

Doug Haag wrote:

...Reminds me of the old story about a college campus near here. Guys used to grab a blanket and a girl and go down to the river bank at night. Said they were going to watch the submarine races.

Submarine races have been popular with college students for years. I remember them from the '50's. But given that the submarine was invented during the Civil War, they could be much older than that.

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FrancoD Senior Member • Posts: 2,346
Re: Why don't people turn their flash OFF in stadiums?

Funny thing is that, I feel , if you explained to most why their flash (any flash...) is useless at that distance, they would still leave it on because they just want to believe.

Same reason why no matter how many times people are told that the chance of that litle white ball ending on red or black is exactly the same on every throw, folk still want to believe that it isn't.

Parishrut Pandey OP Junior Member • Posts: 43
Re: Why don't people turn their flash OFF in stadiums?

DaveOl wrote:

Many people probably weren't even aware that their flash went off, unless it illuminated the back of the person's head in front of them.

Good point.

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Andreas Stuebs Contributing Member • Posts: 879
Because they want ...

... pictures of well lit backs of heads. You don't need model releases to publish those.

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Gerry Winterbourne Forum Pro • Posts: 11,226
Re: Why don't people turn their flash OFF in stadiums?
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DaveOl wrote:

meland wrote:

DaveOl wrote:

Some P&s cameras probably don't have a way to turn the flash off, the people don't know how to turn it off, or they think it will help the picture.

I'm sure you are right but did you mean to reply to me?

Sorry, No I was replying to the OP, but didn't see your name in the box.i

I don't know how to turn off the name in the box or how to change it. I should have just replied to the original poster's post.

They way to reply to a specific post is to open that post (not the latest in the thread) and either use key R or click on Reply (or Q or Reply with quote, of course). It's easier to find your way around threads if you use Threaded view rather than Flat view.

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Zone8 Forum Pro • Posts: 16,586
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Parishrut Pandey wrote: We are talking of stadiums and photography of players here, which are MUCH closer than the moon. You don't need a flash for that.

Groannnnn! That was a tongue in cheek comment you know. Most flashes only project light about 6' from the camera so using in any situation where greater distances occur produces, as original poster complained, it's pretty useless and annoys anyone near front of the camera.  However, most compacts use auto flash - but then, surely most people using DPR know this anyway.

Of course, there are other flashers around!

Click on "Original" to see the animation!

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Parishrut Pandey OP Junior Member • Posts: 43
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Zone8 wrote:

Parishrut Pandey wrote: We are talking of stadiums and photography of players here, which are MUCH closer than the moon. You don't need a flash for that.

Groannnnn! That was a tongue in cheek comment you know. Most flashes only project light about 6' from the camera so using in any situation where greater distances occur produces, as original poster complained, it's pretty useless and annoys anyone near front of the camera. However, most compacts use auto flash - but then, surely most people using DPR know this anyway.

Of course, there are other flashers around!

Click on "Original" to see the animation!

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I meant "you don't need a flash for clicking players" and not "you don't need a flash for clicking the moon"

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star shooter Regular Member • Posts: 207
Re: Why don't people turn their flash OFF in stadiums?

If you think flashing is useless in stadiums, how about the dumb clucks who take a flash pic of the stars!  Man, are they in for looooooonng wait for illumination. Probably the same ones who take flash pictures of an image or a PowerPoint shown on a projection screen.. "..why is my shot blank...." Doh! I tell ya, some mothers do have 'em.

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RJPeter Regular Member • Posts: 357
Re: Why don't people turn their flash OFF in stadiums?

dwight3 wrote:

Doug Haag wrote:

...Reminds me of the old story about a college campus near here. Guys used to grab a blanket and a girl and go down to the river bank at night. Said they were going to watch the submarine races.

Submarine races have been popular with college students for years. I remember them from the '50's. But given that the submarine was invented during the Civil War, they could be much older than that.

There were no submarines in the lake I went to, but there was a luminous duck.

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Parishrut Pandey wrote:  I meant "you don't need a flash for clicking players" and not "you don't need a flash for clicking the moon"

I did guess that actually but could not resist a reply especially with the flasher gif.  

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alpha90290
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They are trying to distract the players.

If they manage to distract the players with the camera flash, the team will lose 

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Except this isn't the 1950's when computer screens only had room for a tiny piece of text at a time.

Threaded view would be a lot more useful if it showed more than one post at a a time.
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Re: Why don't people turn their flash OFF in stadiums?
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The people who do not know how to use their cameras functions (other than flash), are the general public (probably the biggest demographic of overall users), certainly not the enthusiasts who want to know more. Full auto is often as much as the general public want to know about. Oddly, they are pretty good at using a smart phone though and know a lot about that, instead of a pocket camera.

A need to know, perhaps? (they are very interested in all their smart phones functions)

That said, it certainly is pretty to see a sea of pretty sparkly "flash" stars in a stadium when light goes low. Does not bother me.

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Henry Falkner
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Parishrut Pandey wrote:

I don't understand it. The bigger the event is, the more flashes you see. It is wonderful to watch and gives a great sense of occasion, but is there a particular reason for this? Almost every camera that is taking pictures seems to flash. Isn't it useless?

They leave the camera in the configuration they bought it in, which is usually iAUTO. That fires the flash in the dark regardless.

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Lee Jay Forum Pro • Posts: 50,384
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I was just at Disney Orlando.

There was a guy in front of me, just before the Epcot center fireworks, trying to take a picture of the scene around the lake using a P&S with the flash on.  I don't know how many stadiums you could fit in that space, but it's a heck of a lot.  I watched his LCD pop up each time with a black image.  Then he'd mess with the camera for a few seconds and try again, still with flash.  Same result, of course.

But even that is nothing compared to watching someone shoot pictures of the moon with the flash on.

The answer to why people do this is AUTO MODE.  These people use nothing else, and so deserve what they get.

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