Third party batteries

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Digital Shutterbug Senior Member • Posts: 2,333
Re: Why take the risk to buy non-brands?

Hi Daniel,

I just ordered my new X-T1 and would like to pick up some of these Wasabi batteries for it. Is there a specific model number I should be looking for to be able to work in the X-T1?

Best place to purchase these?

Thanks

Wasabi batteries are available from Amazon or bluenook.com. Either way, they come from Blue Nook. Go to either site and search for NP-W126. They are backordered for another week or so. They are worth the wait. In the past, for about a dollar more than the cost of two batteries you also got a charger in the deal. They don't seem to be making that deal now. You might call Blue Nook (tool free number on their website) and ask if they will still sell that package. The charger is nice, especially for almost free.

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No Regrets Senior Member • Posts: 1,046
Re: Why take the risk to buy non-brands?

Hi Daniel,

I just ordered my new X-T1 and would like to pick up some of these Wasabi batteries for it. Is there a specific model number I should be looking for to be able to work in the X-T1?

Best place to purchase these?

Thanks

Wasabi batteries are available from Amazon or bluenook.com. Either way, they come from Blue Nook. Go to either site and search for NP-W126. They are backordered for another week or so. They are worth the wait. In the past, for about a dollar more than the cost of two batteries you also got a charger in the deal. They don't seem to be making that deal now. You might call Blue Nook (tool free number on their website) and ask if they will still sell that package. The charger is nice, especially for almost free.

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Steve

Thx Steve. I'll give them a call.

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antoineb Veteran Member • Posts: 6,332
Still, Sal: what's the upside?

Sal Baker wrote:

antoineb wrote:

goloby wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking to buy a spare battery for my xe1. Amazon has 2 brands that have good reviews and cost 1/4 of a Fuji battery. Anyone here using Maxsima or ex-pro batteries? Or any other brand that you are pleased with.

Thanks,

Sorin

Hi Sorin,

not sure why you seem to think it is worth to take the risk of using non-Fuji batteries?

Here's how I reason about this:

- your investment in the X-E1 and lenses is most certainly over $1'000 (body only is $800). If your 3rd-party battery blew up (we all know that Li-ion technology is still not as perfect as everyone would like) then the Fuji warranty wouldn't cover anything.

- the Fuji battery for the X-E1 is around $55. So even if the 3rd-party battery is just 1/4th of this i.e. around $14, you'll be saving only $41. If you buy two, you'll be saving $82. And to "save" the $82 you'll be taking a risk that you are with a less safe battery, and more importantly you'll be taking the risk that if anything happens then your warranty will not cover anything. In other words you seem ready to take a risk on a precious piece of equipment, to make a "saving" of around 5% of the value of that equipment. Doesn't seem very logical to me.

- and this is even before I start with the value (emotional and potentially commercial) of the photographs taken with that camera, and which might also get lost should a 3-rd party battery blow-up.

But perhaps your logic is different - if so I'd be happy to hear it!

For any of this to matter there would have to be some demonstrated risk. There has never been any report, anywhere, in the world, of any batteries made for X-cameras, made for Fuji or made for third party companies ever blowing up or causing ANY problems. The possibility is high that all these batteries are made by one manufacturer as Fuji has a very small market share.

Again, these are very unsophisticated batteries with no special electronics or chips. They are more like AA batteries than DSLR batteries. Pay more if you like, but they all have the same chance of blowing up, which as of now is zero.

If I missed reports of blown up third party Fuji batteries please correct me.

Sal

Well Sal,

we are all different.

On one hand, less money is spent.

On the other, there is:
- IF anything happens, the warranty is VOID.  What is the upside of voiding the warranty?  By my book this is a huge letdown.  So I don't care if I can "save" 40 dollars by buying cheap.
- Li-ion batteries are definitely NOT "like AA batteries".  I haven't searched for failures of Fuji batteries or oher brands or non-brands on cameras.  But there are numerous reports of batteries failing or blowing up on smartphones or laptops - most of them non-brands.

But again, we are all different.  You seem to fall in the camp for whom a saving of 40 dollars is worth more than a lost warranty.  And this in spite of having once had the means to purchase a good Fuji camera and a couple lenses...

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Lisa O Senior Member • Posts: 2,499
Go Wasabi

I have never heard of anybody's camera igniting because of a faulty battery in recent times. I started buying Wasabi batteries when there were no OEM batteries available for the OM-D EM-5 but since then I have bought them for several other cameras. They last as long as OEM and I am not worried about them damaging my cameras. I even like the charger better than the OEM Fujifilm charger. It is great for travel.

The naysayers are the ones who live by the rules and don't question authority.

Unless the battery had melted into the camera (which is highly unlikely) how would Fujifilm even know which battery was used in the camera?

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Sal Baker Veteran Member • Posts: 9,623
Re: Still, Sal: what's the upside?

antoineb wrote:

Sal Baker wrote:

antoineb wrote:

goloby wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking to buy a spare battery for my xe1. Amazon has 2 brands that have good reviews and cost 1/4 of a Fuji battery. Anyone here using Maxsima or ex-pro batteries? Or any other brand that you are pleased with.

Thanks,

Sorin

Hi Sorin,

not sure why you seem to think it is worth to take the risk of using non-Fuji batteries?

Here's how I reason about this:

- your investment in the X-E1 and lenses is most certainly over $1'000 (body only is $800). If your 3rd-party battery blew up (we all know that Li-ion technology is still not as perfect as everyone would like) then the Fuji warranty wouldn't cover anything.

- the Fuji battery for the X-E1 is around $55. So even if the 3rd-party battery is just 1/4th of this i.e. around $14, you'll be saving only $41. If you buy two, you'll be saving $82. And to "save" the $82 you'll be taking a risk that you are with a less safe battery, and more importantly you'll be taking the risk that if anything happens then your warranty will not cover anything. In other words you seem ready to take a risk on a precious piece of equipment, to make a "saving" of around 5% of the value of that equipment. Doesn't seem very logical to me.

- and this is even before I start with the value (emotional and potentially commercial) of the photographs taken with that camera, and which might also get lost should a 3-rd party battery blow-up.

But perhaps your logic is different - if so I'd be happy to hear it!

For any of this to matter there would have to be some demonstrated risk. There has never been any report, anywhere, in the world, of any batteries made for X-cameras, made for Fuji or made for third party companies ever blowing up or causing ANY problems. The possibility is high that all these batteries are made by one manufacturer as Fuji has a very small market share.

Again, these are very unsophisticated batteries with no special electronics or chips. They are more like AA batteries than DSLR batteries. Pay more if you like, but they all have the same chance of blowing up, which as of now is zero.

If I missed reports of blown up third party Fuji batteries please correct me.

Sal

Well Sal,

we are all different.

On one hand, less money is spent.

On the other, there is:
- IF anything happens, the warranty is VOID. What is the upside of voiding the warranty? By my book this is a huge letdown. So I don't care if I can "save" 40 dollars by buying cheap.
- Li-ion batteries are definitely NOT "like AA batteries". I haven't searched for failures of Fuji batteries or oher brands or non-brands on cameras. But there are numerous reports of batteries failing or blowing up on smartphones or laptops - most of them non-brands.

But again, we are all different. You seem to fall in the camp for whom a saving of 40 dollars is worth more than a lost warranty. And this in spite of having once had the means to purchase a good Fuji camera and a couple lenses...

1) Again, what is the risk? There have been no, zero, reports or claims, anywhere in the world of any batteries in Fuji cameras ever blowing up. Fuji cameras use cheap simple power cells. Laptops may be blowing up all the time, but no Fuji cameras. Why insure against non-existent risks?

2) At least in North America, Fuji branded batteries only have a 90-day warranty, and Fuji's maximum liability (stated clearly in writing) is the replacement cost of the battery. So no protection there.

3) Wasabi batteries have a 3-year warranty, and the power cells are made in Japan, just like Fuji.

4) Fuji's digital camera warranty does not cover damage from electrical power problems (the battery) and they clearly state that Fuji "MAKES NO WARRANTY WHATSOEVER, WRITTEN OR ORAL, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, WITH RESPECT TO ANY ACCESSORY," other than the accessories warranty.

5). As someone else mentioned, if there ever was a problem, just stick the Fuji branded battery in when the camera goes off for repair.  There is no sophisticated tracking systems in Fuji cameras that knows what battery has been in use.

So buying the branded battery might protect you from something that has never happened, and wouldn't be covered by the Fuji camera or battery warranty if it ever did happen. You might as well get a cheaper battery with a 3-year warranty that works exactly the same as the Fuji labeled (90-day warranty) battery.

Sal

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scotbot Senior Member • Posts: 1,192
Re: Third party batteries

I use Ex-pro and have had no problems..
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Just a Photographer Senior Member • Posts: 1,368
Re: Do Wasabis last as long? Do they quit with no warning?

tesilab wrote:

My Power2000 batteries (albeit for different camera) die quickly and without warning. Is Wasabi better in this regard?

I am happy with the Wasabi batteries - Half the cost and as long as the originals.

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