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My take on the Olympus E-P5

Started Mar 30, 2014 | User reviews
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My take on the Olympus E-P5
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I've had my E-P5 for several weeks now, replacing the excellent E-PL5 in my kit. The E-P5 is a jewel among µ4/3 cameras.

Handling: The dual-dial control combined with the 1-2 lever makes handling a dream compared to the "fiddly" (my word) E-PL5. For some reason, the button placement on this camera seems far more intuitive than on my E-PL5; I just seem to know where to press at the right time. I know that's highly subjective, but it's very real for me and a pleasant surprise. Heft in my hand is highly satisfying; I do not care for extremely light cameras. The metal (magnesium?) construction of the E-P5 gives it a quality feel.

Image Quality: Right up there with the best of µ4/3 cameras right now. No complaints here and nothing more to say that you have not already read in this forum.

IBIS: This is the very first camera I've owned where the image stabilization appears to work well enough that I will not criticize it. I'm still a tripod person whenever possible, but this 5-axis IBIS does bring a level of mental comfort to shooting hand-held in lower light situations. I still will not use it for anything serious, but for casual shooting, this IBIS seems rather good. Contrasted to the E-PL5 IBIS, it's marvelous.

Electronic Viewfinder: A major reason I acquired the E-P5 is the VF-4. Wow. What a nice upgrade to the VF-2 I have been using since I purchased my E-PL3 in August, 2011 (I know I could have upgraded just the viewfinder on my E-PL5, but I wanted the entire package). All I can say is that it's a pleasure looking through this EVF. The eye-detect feature when mounted on the E-P5 seems near-perfect in sensitivity and speed for my style of shooting.

Video: Who cares?

Additional Features: Well, the 1/8000 shutter combined with ISO 100 makes this a much better camera when I want to shoot a fast lens wide open. My Leica Summilix DG 25mm f/1.4 is a little more useful in normal light right now. I like my portraits wide open (FF equiv of f/2.8 DOF) whenever possible and the E-P5 facilitates that better than the E-PL5.

I'm not thrilled with the printed graphics on all of the buttons. They will wear off, there is no getting around that. I would very much prefer engraved+painted markings, but there you are. Nothing to do but use the camera as-is.

The battery door does not inspire confidence. At least, if it were to open accidentally, nothing falls out. Taking out the SD card is a bit fiddly because the battery door opens to parallel and next to the card, leaving a rather uncomfortable grip on the card. It's just something to get used to and do carefully is all; not a big deal overall.

Shutter Shock: My short story: None. My long story: There is a lot of controversy surrounding this behavior, especially with the E-P5. I have made literally hundreds of test images in the 1/60 to 1/250 range specifically looking for evidence of shutter shock. On tripod and off. IBIS on and off (no IBIS+tripod though). I find no evidence whatsoever of shutter shock in my E-P5. I may be lucky, or it may be that I'm just using the camera correctly. I did see minor shutter shock evidence (occasionally) with my E-PL5, so not finding it with this camera is a nice bonus.

Conclusion: I truly enjoy the Pen form factor and this is the best Pen yet. It's a major step up from the E-PL5. I may someday acquire an E-M1 or its successor for specific purposes (birding, action), but this Pen is a near-perfect camera for me at this time.

Jim Pilcher
Summit County, Colorado, USA

Olympus PEN E-P5
16 megapixels • 3 screen • Four Thirds sensor
Announced: May 10, 2013
Day Hiker's score
4.5
Average community score
4.7
bad for good for
Kids / pets
excellent
Action / sports
acceptable
Landscapes / scenery
great
Portraits
excellent
Low light (without flash)
good
Flash photography (social)
acceptable
Studio / still life
great
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Eugene232
Eugene232 Regular Member • Posts: 364
Re: My take on the Olympus E-P5

thanks James for review,

have you noticed any difference in terms of IQ compare to  EPL5?

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Jeff4500
Jeff4500 Senior Member • Posts: 1,921
Re: My take on the Olympus E-P5

I'm a DSLR shooter, but +1 on your comments on the EP5. Video isn't bad if you follow just few things: no motion (pan or fast subject) for HD fine, HD regular (keep your pans slow), MJPEG video killer for post work. The IBIS is a killer using it and the 720P for run and gun.

Also, I think this is the best looking MFT on the market (Of course I would, I upgraded from the EPL1 to the EP5). Don't know why this camera doesn't get more love, I too have not had shutter stock. I also shoot with an EVF and perhaps that is the difference, I finding shooting with the camera extend not as comfortable (probably from shooting DSLR for 40 years).

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sderdiarian Veteran Member • Posts: 4,248
Re: My take on the Olympus E-P5

Informative hands-on review, Jim, thank you.  And I appreciated your one line SS report: none!  Some have clearly had real issues, but also very nice to hear reports of none.

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Alexsfo Senior Member • Posts: 2,362
Re: My take on the Olympus E-P5

Nice review. I tried E-P5 for a week and, unfortunately, did not click with it, kinda boxy and heavier than it needs to be. Downgrade from E-P3 in a sense the built-in flash can no longer be bounced. I did like the tilting LCD: it's thin and way smoother to operate than E-PL5 (love that camera). Use of different batteries and charger was not convenient for mw either. Eventually I got myself E-M10 and I clicked with it instantly. Way better grip: brilliant combo of large thumb rest and bigger grip. The camera feels smaller and lighter than E-P5. Love the ability to share charger and batteries with my trusty E-PM2. Auto HDR mode is quite useful and effective, I will be post processing less. Built-in EVF is more than adequate on E-M10. It is not a substitute for tilting screen but attachable EVF is a big and resounding no in 2014, IMO.

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OP Day Hiker Forum Pro • Posts: 10,829
image quality E-P5 vs E-PL5

Eugene232 wrote:

thanks James for review,

have you noticed any difference in terms of IQ compare to EPL5?

Hi Eugene,

Honestly, I see no image quality difference between the two cameras. I did not expect any, either. My understanding is that the two cameras share the same sensor. The move from E-PL5 to E-P5 is a move for features, build quality, and handling.

Jim Pilcher
Summit County, Colorado, USA

OP Day Hiker Forum Pro • Posts: 10,829
using the EVF and using the rear LCD

Jeff4500 wrote:

I'm a DSLR shooter, but +1 on your comments on the EP5. Video isn't bad if you follow just few things: no motion (pan or fast subject) for HD fine, HD regular (keep your pans slow), MJPEG video killer for post work. The IBIS is a killer using it and the 720P for run and gun.

Also, I think this is the best looking MFT on the market (Of course I would, I upgraded from the EPL1 to the EP5). Don't know why this camera doesn't get more love, I too have not had shutter stock. I also shoot with an EVF and perhaps that is the difference, I finding shooting with the camera extend not as comfortable (probably from shooting DSLR for 40 years).

Hi Jeff,

I use the EVF a vast majority of the time. The only times I do not are:

  • Camera mounted on a tripod. Even then, I'll often flip up the VF-4 and look downward into the scene.
  • Closeups, particulary near ground level. I'll flip out the LCD for a more comfortable shooting position.
  • Playing with the menus, setting up the camera
  • Replaying, editing, deleting photos

I, like you, have been using SLRs for 40+ years (I'm 61). Holding the camera up to my eye is just plain "the right way" to shoot. 

Jim Pilcher
Summit County, Colorado, USA

OP Day Hiker Forum Pro • Posts: 10,829
shutter shock: why tempt fate?

sderdiarian wrote:

Informative hands-on review, Jim, thank you. And I appreciated your one line SS report: none! Some have clearly had real issues, but also very nice to hear reports of none.

Hi Steve,

Even though I find no evidence of shutter shock with my camera, I still use a 2 second anti-shock delay when using a tripod while photographing stationary subjects. I mean, why tempt fate? Of course, I did not use that precaution when conducting my tests.

Jim Pilcher
Summit County, Colorado, USA

Michael Jardine
Michael Jardine Senior Member • Posts: 2,006
More on purchase decision?

Excellent review, thanks for sharing!  I too have an E-PL5 and considered upgrading to the E-P5, to the extent that I stopped off at Yodobashi Camera in Tokyo while in transit, just to play with it.  I too loved it but decided to wait, mainly because of the price.  Now, there are two other Olympus cameras, the OMD EM-1 and EM10, and I'm wondering if you would mind commenting on what made you decide to purchase the E-P5, given those two offerings?

Thanks!

p.s. Don't peek at my gear list!

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style over substance
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Alexsfo wrote:

Nice review. I tried E-P5 for a week and, unfortunately, did not click with it, kinda boxy and heavier than it needs to be. Downgrade from E-P3 in a sense the built-in flash can no longer be bounced. I did like the tilting LCD: it's thin and way smoother to operate than E-PL5 (love that camera). Use of different batteries and charger was not convenient for mw either. Eventually I got myself E-M10 and I clicked with it instantly. Way better grip: brilliant combo of large thumb rest and bigger grip. The camera feels smaller and lighter than E-P5. Love the ability to share charger and batteries with my trusty E-PM2. Auto HDR mode is quite useful and effective, I will be post processing less. Built-in EVF is more than adequate on E-M10. It is not a substitute for tilting screen but attachable EVF is a big and resounding no in 2014, IMO.

Hi Alex,

I like the look of the VF-4 (or VF-2) on a Pen. The combination offers a rather eye-catching style to the kit. The one VERY big advantage over the OMD series is that the VF-x can tilt upward. I use that feature a lot, and not just when on a tripod.

I can remove the VF-4. That occasionally has some advantages. Yes, you can argue that with an OMD, the EVF is integrated into the design, thus negating any advantage of needing to remove it. I like my Pen, though.

To be sure, the VF-4 makes the camera profile larger, meaning I need a slightly larger camera bag than an E-M10 might require. It's still so small compared to my old Olympus E-1 and E-5 with grips that the size of the Pen with EVF is still nothing to me.

Each person has his/her own requirements for a camera. I'm glad the OMD works for you. At least you did not go with Sony or Fuji!

Jim Pilcher
Summit County, Colorado, USA

perry rhodan
perry rhodan Senior Member • Posts: 1,964
Re: My take on the Olympus E-P5, flash?

Excellent userreport!

Could you elaborate a bit on the low points you give to "flash in social photogs"?

I really like the rc mode with single or multiple flashes, so just wondering why.

Regards Perry

OP Day Hiker Forum Pro • Posts: 10,829
my purchase decision

Michael Jardine wrote:

Excellent review, thanks for sharing! I too have an E-PL5 and considered upgrading to the E-P5, to the extent that I stopped off at Yodobashi Camera in Tokyo while in transit, just to play with it. I too loved it but decided to wait, mainly because of the price. Now, there are two other Olympus cameras, the OMD EM-1 and EM10, and I'm wondering if you would mind commenting on what made you decide to purchase the E-P5, given those two offerings?

Hi Michael,

Well, my purchase decision was prompted by a somewhat unusual occurrence; I found at my local camera shop a pristine used E-P5 with VF-4 for $750 USD. On top of that, they were willing to give me $375 for my own E-PL5 with VF-2. So, for $375 I got a no-hassle upgrade. It was hard to turn down.

I had been interested in the E-P5 since its announcement last year. The 1/8000 shutter, 5-axis IBIS, ISO 100, VF-4, and dual dial controls really got my camera lust going. I very much enjoyed my E-PL5, but I always considered it a bit fiddly in operation. Not awful, mind you, but not all that optimum. The E-P5 solves that in spades.

If I were purchasing new at the moment, I most likely would have gone for an E-M1. As it is, I'm very happy with the E-P5. I can honestly say I'm not lusting after an E-M1 in any way at the moment.

I did look at your gear list (you knew I would). Very nice stuff. I just cannot convince myself that I need two or more systems. Sure, it would be nice, but mirrorless and EVF-viewing have radically changed the way I do photography. Prior to using Pens, I was using Olympus DSLR (E-1 and E-5). Live view, live histograms, blinkies, and deadly-accurate CDAF changed my photographic life. I've come to accept that m4/3 is all I really need as a hobbyist. It's way good enough.

Jim Pilcher
Summit County, Colorado, USA

Michael Jardine
Michael Jardine Senior Member • Posts: 2,006
Re: my purchase decision

Thanks for the reply. I'm definitely working with one foot in each boat, but I use the two systems for two completely different purposes. The D800 does night sports and editorial photography; the M43's do everything else.

Speaking of sports, I have fond memories of playing soccer up at Summit County against the local high school team. The altitude had us all gasping - and we were coming from 6000 ft (Colorado Springs).

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flash in social settings

perry rhodan wrote:

Excellent userreport!

Could you elaborate a bit on the low points you give to "flash in social photogs"?

I really like the rc mode with single or multiple flashes, so just wondering why.

Hi Perry,

I have used the flash a few times in "social settings" and it's like any other built-in flash; it illuminates the subject well enough in a very unflattering way. I prefer to look for interesting ambient light and boost the ISO in those situations.

If I had one or more FL600r flashes, it might be a completely different story. But I don't, thus the low mark.

Jim Pilcher
Summit County, Colorado, USA

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9100 ft elevation

Michael Jardine wrote:

Thanks for the reply. I'm definitely working with one foot in each boat, but I use the two systems for two completely different purposes. The D800 does night sports and editorial photography; the M43's do everything else.

Speaking of sports, I have fond memories of playing soccer up at Summit County against the local high school team. The altitude had us all gasping - and we were coming from 6000 ft (Colorado Springs).

Yup, 9100 to 9600 ft elevation makes for challenging sports activities. Luckily, my sports at that elevation are limited to my hiking, and I can do that at my own pace without worrying about having to "defeat" my fellow hikers! And, no, I'm not a skier despite having lived in Colorado since I was a very young boy.

Jim Pilcher
Summit County, Colorado, USA

perry rhodan
perry rhodan Senior Member • Posts: 1,964
Re: flash in social settings

Thanks James for your response. That makes it clear.

Surely nice to try out a set of fl300r's or an fl600r

Regards Perry

Michael Jardine
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Re: 9100 ft elevation

James Pilcher wrote:

Yup, 9100 to 9600 ft elevation makes for challenging sports activities. Luckily, my sports at that elevation are limited to my hiking, and I can do that at my own pace without worrying about having to "defeat" my fellow hikers! And, no, I'm not a skier despite having lived in Colorado since I was a very young boy.

Jim Pilcher
Summit County, Colorado, USA

It's a lovely area.  I worked in the mine in Telluride, so am was used to high elevations at one point. But now I'm a sea level and 200 feet is a hilltop  

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ambercool
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Re: My take on the Olympus E-P5

I think the white E-P5 looks amazing, and I want to get it just for the sole purpose of collecting it.  Waiting for the price to go down even lower before I pull the trigger.

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a black and white decision

ambercool wrote:

I think the white E-P5 looks amazing, and I want to get it just for the sole purpose of collecting it. Waiting for the price to go down even lower before I pull the trigger.

Hello Viet (or Ambercool?)

I too think the white E-P5 is very stylish and attractive. I have the all-black model and probably that's a good thing. My cameras are all "users" and a white camera would be frightfully difficult to keep clean. You know, grubby fingers and all. As a collectible, though, your future E-P5 will not have that problem.  I hope you get one before they disappear. The E-P5 appears to be no longer in production. I have to think the white model, in particular, will be difficult to find. Then again, you can find anything on eBay.

Jim Pilcher
Summit County, Colorado, USA

Doug Brown Veteran Member • Posts: 3,964
nice take ....

Good take on a very under-rated camera. Reminds me of the E30, which was also under-appreciated.

I use mine for everything. Editorial, concerts, arts coverage. It's a wonderful camera. Just the right heft and a real quality feel to it.

Cheers,

Douglas Brown

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