Interesting article posted by Kirk Tuck...All the cameras are better than you are

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KTClown
KTClown Senior Member • Posts: 1,461
Re: His attitude sucks.....Educational Standing

Guy Parsons wrote:

KTClown wrote:

Best Education in our World

1. Finland

2. South Korea

13. Australia

17. USA

Yes, here in America our kids are dumber than a box of rocks!

There's lists and there's lists, one I looked at had Japan top of the tree. But sadly also had Oz and USA down in the dumbasboxofrocks department.

The alarming thing is that those dumbasboxofrocks kids grow up to become your politicians who decide your future.

Regards..... Guy

Guy,

I wasn't going to go there, but you are right. The uneducated out to lunch, uninformed, dumbasaboxofrocks voters got us Obozo. Not once but twice. Between him and congress I don't think we have a change of making it to the next century. I'm an independent and read all I can about what is happening in Washington.

On the brighter side, spring and summer will be here soon and I can go out with camera in hand and find some peace of mind.

Gary

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KTClown
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Re: Interesting article posted by Kirk Tuck...All the cameras are better than you are

Who wants to work with a smart-arxe camera than can take better pictures than a trained professional photographer - ban automation and do away with auto and scene modes I say!

Then once you learn it, you'll forget it as old age creeps up on you.

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WT21 Veteran Member • Posts: 5,240
Re: Why It’s Never Mattered That America’s Schools ‘Lag’ Behind Other Countries
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linux99 wrote:

yanisha wrote:

http://techcrunch.com/2013/12/03/why-its-never-mattered-that-americas-schools-lag-behind-other-countries-2013-edition/

The United States has never ranked at the top of international education tests, since we began comparing countries in 1964, yet has been the dominant economic and innovative force in the world the entire time. Despite this fact, a popular annual education report has once again stoked fears of America's impending economic mediocrity with fresh stats on how far the U.S. “lags” behind the world in college attainment, pre-school enrollment, and high school graduation.

The reason for the apparent disconnect is because ..

.... the USA bombed Europe flat in WW2 and were the only remotely industrial power to survive intact throughout the 1950's

There corrected the article for you.

Hardly. Do a little more research, eh? Pretty sure Germany leveled a few bits here and there (London, e.g.). Russia, too. Also, Britain did it's fair share (Dresden: 722 Brit bombers, 522 US, according to the Wikipedia entry). In case you hadn't heard, it was a World War.

But no, the US just came over to Europe and flattened it for no good reason. What's the emoticon for roll eyes again??

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WT21 Veteran Member • Posts: 5,240
Re: Interesting article posted by Kirk Tuck...All the cameras are better than you are

DaveLemi wrote:

This is well thought out and delves into what is sufficient-

http://ripecamera.blogspot.com/2014/03/all-cameras-are-better-than-you-are.html

Kirk's site-

http://visualsciencelab.blogspot.com/2014/03/important-announcement-from-ceo-of.html

I've never been that interested in what Mr. Tuck has to say, but he can sure stir up a thread! Maybe the new KR?

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Guy Parsons
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Wars, let's have one here.

WT21 wrote:

linux99 wrote:

yanisha wrote:

http://techcrunch.com/2013/12/03/why-its-never-mattered-that-americas-schools-lag-behind-other-countries-2013-edition/

The United States has never ranked at the top of international education tests, since we began comparing countries in 1964, yet has been the dominant economic and innovative force in the world the entire time. Despite this fact, a popular annual education report has once again stoked fears of America's impending economic mediocrity with fresh stats on how far the U.S. “lags” behind the world in college attainment, pre-school enrollment, and high school graduation.

The reason for the apparent disconnect is because ..

.... the USA bombed Europe flat in WW2 and were the only remotely industrial power to survive intact throughout the 1950's

There corrected the article for you.

Hardly. Do a little more research, eh? Pretty sure Germany leveled a few bits here and there (London, e.g.). Russia, too. Also, Britain did it's fair share (Dresden: 722 Brit bombers, 522 US, according to the Wikipedia entry). In case you hadn't heard, it was a World War.

But no, the US just came over to Europe and flattened it for no good reason. What's the emoticon for roll eyes again??

Everyone was bombing everyone else. All part of the business of keeping armaments makers as rich as possible.

Even Australia, remote as it was in those days, had the crap bombed out of Darwin (more bombs dropped on Darwin than on Pearl Harbour) and Japan did random shelling and torpedoes into Sydney from submarines, plus many ships sunk all around our coast by Japanese subs and German  raiders. Truly a world war. I was in nappies then so wasn't involved.

USA had to go to war to help Britain, otherwise they would not have their war loans repaid.

Regards..... Guy

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WT21 Veteran Member • Posts: 5,240
Re: Wars, let's have one here.

Guy Parsons wrote:

WT21 wrote:

linux99 wrote:

yanisha wrote:

http://techcrunch.com/2013/12/03/why-its-never-mattered-that-americas-schools-lag-behind-other-countries-2013-edition/

The United States has never ranked at the top of international education tests, since we began comparing countries in 1964, yet has been the dominant economic and innovative force in the world the entire time. Despite this fact, a popular annual education report has once again stoked fears of America's impending economic mediocrity with fresh stats on how far the U.S. “lags” behind the world in college attainment, pre-school enrollment, and high school graduation.

The reason for the apparent disconnect is because ..

.... the USA bombed Europe flat in WW2 and were the only remotely industrial power to survive intact throughout the 1950's

There corrected the article for you.

Hardly. Do a little more research, eh? Pretty sure Germany leveled a few bits here and there (London, e.g.). Russia, too. Also, Britain did it's fair share (Dresden: 722 Brit bombers, 522 US, according to the Wikipedia entry). In case you hadn't heard, it was a World War.

But no, the US just came over to Europe and flattened it for no good reason. What's the emoticon for roll eyes again??

Everyone was bombing everyone else. All part of the business of keeping armaments makers as rich as possible.

Even Australia, remote as it was in those days, had the crap bombed out of Darwin (more bombs dropped on Darwin than on Pearl Harbour) and Japan did random shelling and torpedoes into Sydney from submarines, plus many ships sunk all around our coast by Japanese subs and German raiders. Truly a world war. I was in nappies then so wasn't involved.

USA had to go to war to help Britain, otherwise they would not have their war loans repaid.

Regards..... Guy

Most of Britains gold was sitting in Canada during the war (as was France's. Also, the US found a lot of Germany's gold). Reparations were being made. I wonder if they ever got much from the Soviets??

Interesting stuff, the economics of Total War (interesting from 70 years ago perspective. Would not want to live through it).

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Jacques Cornell
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Re: Nah, let's not.

Guy Parsons wrote:

Jacques Cornell wrote:

You're dragging the thread way off-topic.

It's just that the off-topic stuff is 1,000 times more interesting than the on-topic stuff.

Regards.... Guy

If I wanted that, I'd hang out at pointlessargument.com.

Outside the Pro Digital Talk forum, it often feels like I'm already there.

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Guy Parsons
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And to pay for it....

WT21 wrote:

Most of Britains gold was sitting in Canada during the war (as was France's. Also, the US found a lot of Germany's gold). Reparations were being made. I wonder if they ever got much from the Soviets??

Interesting stuff, the economics of Total War (interesting from 70 years ago perspective. Would not want to live through it).

Found this http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/britain-pays-off-final-instalment-of-us-loan--after-61-years-430118.html

As least Britain paid up.

Regards..... Guy

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WT21 Veteran Member • Posts: 5,240
Re: And to pay for it....

Guy Parsons wrote:

WT21 wrote:

Most of Britains gold was sitting in Canada during the war (as was France's. Also, the US found a lot of Germany's gold). Reparations were being made. I wonder if they ever got much from the Soviets??

Interesting stuff, the economics of Total War (interesting from 70 years ago perspective. Would not want to live through it).

Found this http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/britain-pays-off-final-instalment-of-us-loan--after-61-years-430118.html

As least Britain paid up.

Regards..... Guy

Wow! That is pretty crazy.

I would agree that much of the US's post-war success is because it was ... post-War, and the US mainland was nearly untouched, and of course, our industry was jump started from supplying the armaments to the Allies.

But the US industry was industrious enough to create those armaments. The German scientists who helped with rocketry and atomic engineering didn't hurt, either.

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WT21 Veteran Member • Posts: 5,240
Re: I think we all know it has nothing to do with education.

Corkcampbell wrote:

The reasons for m4/3 adoption are clear, including portability, video capabilities, and the realization that most of us don't need full frame sensors and expensive white lenses.

His education comment may have been tongue-in-cheek. I just finished working for a decade at a university in Beijing, and am now studying the Korean education system. These two systems are designed to help students pass tests, not innovate. Most of my Chinese students (who all go to the US and UK to finish their bachelor's degrees and get master's degrees), just return to work in some bank because of family connections. In ten years, I've only had one student return with an idea of starting a business, but she is a woman which makes it almost impossible in the Chinese business culture. Even the Chinese government is worried about this situation (lack of innovation skills). As for Korea, it seems to be similar. Great TOEFL and GMAT scores, and a degree from a US university means you can find a "better" spouse...

Anyone complaining about the US education culture is probably doing it on an Apple or Windows computer, sitting on a Boeing plane, and checking his or her Facebook/Whatsapp account at the same time, and contemplating getting an MBA from an EU school...oh, wait...MBA from the EU...?

Well stated. That has been my experience to a lesser extent, as well (i.e. I don't travel in Asia. I just study the systems from afar, so your direct knowledge is more immediate). There are lots of things to be done in US education, but figuring out how to better teach to the test is not one of them.

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