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Infinity focus issue with NX300 in night shots

Started Mar 2, 2014 | Discussions
MrSaffron New Member • Posts: 11
Infinity focus issue with NX300 in night shots

Okay so last night was first clear night for a while so tried some night shooting, but feel in the two following shots that the focus is out. I was using manual focus and thought I had it at infinity.

After tips on how to be sure the camera is at Infinity focus when doing night shots. As the NX300 I believe should be able to do better, when on a tripod and produce sharper starlight images.

For normal indoor and outdoor stuff its easy enough experimenting, but with long night time exposures it takes so long and hoping someone has the answer.

Another shot 45mm f1.8 lens 30 second exposure, there may be a glimmer of Northern Lights, but am south of London so unlikely

Tripod night shot f1.8 30 seconds

Apart from this issue, now I've got used to the 45mm I am loving it as a lens on the NX300, a great lens to leave on the camera most of the time. Otherwise have a 20-50mm, and chasing around for a bargain 50-200mm or the mystical 18-200m lens as an ebay bargain.

Samsung NX 45mm F1.8 2D/3D Samsung NX300
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pixelpushing
pixelpushing Veteran Member • Posts: 3,279
Re: Infinity focus issue with NX300 in night shots

I mean this in a respectful, constructive way - but it's probably not the camera's fault you can't get proper infinity focus. I've taken star shots with an A57, D5000, 60D, E-PL1, RX100Mk2, G1X and several other cameras... It's never easy, nor is there an automatic guarantee you have infinity, because there's a myriad of other factors in play.

Suffice it to say, the best way is to focus on a distance object you can see, like a street light. Barring that, just keep taking shots and fiddling with focus until you get it right. MF assist and zoom should help compose with the screen.

Also, make sure you have the right setting for image (exposure) preview. You want your LCD as bright and boosted as it will go to see the stars.

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WMT Junior Member • Posts: 40
Re: Infinity focus issue with NX300 in night shots

Well, manually focusing to infinity with NX300 wouldn't work, because it can actually focus a bit 'beyond' infinity (I think it's needed for contrast AF to work). What you need to do is set the focus assist (magnification) to 8x in the menu, then focus to infinity and rotate focus ring few degrees back to get stars in focus. The magnification should help you and you can find some bright star to focus on. But it's not straightforward 'focus to infinity and shoot' affair. You might need to try it few times, before you get the focus nailed. When you do, just try not to touch the focus ring and you should be good. Or, as already mentioned, you can try to focus on something else (Moon or some other distant object). But you can do without it. I was actually able to get some decent shots of Milky Way with NX200 and 16mm lens (f2,4, 30 seconds exposure, ISO 1600), but it took me a while to figure it out and set up. As I said, lots of trial and error, but can be done.

OP MrSaffron New Member • Posts: 11
Re: Infinity focus issue with NX300 in night shots

Thanks WMT will give that a go next time I venture out

Ian Leach Senior Member • Posts: 1,475
Re: Infinity focus issue with NX300 in night shots

One downside of fly by wire lenses is that you can’t mark the best position for any given distance so to some extent judgement is needed. However I have taken a close look at your images and think you have other problems. If you look at 100% you can clearly see a double exposure on each star. So I would look at the rigidity of your set up. I don’t do star photos myself but I do know that the camera has to be rock solid to pull them off.

farmersride Junior Member • Posts: 35
Re: Infinity focus issue with NX300 in night shots

I would recommend using MF assist with enlargement set at 8x then set up your display so that you can clearly see at least one star.  To accomplish this try Framing mode, if that doesn't work put it back in regular mode and elevate the iso to an unacceptably high level (along with shutter time at 30s and aperture at it's largest).  This will allow you to focus on a single star directly using Manual focus.  Once you have set the focus put your iso back down and put the other settings where ever you want them to be.

I have gotten some very clean night shots with my NX300 I've even started doing some star trail sets (requires interval shutter controller).

Matt Everglade Regular Member • Posts: 200
Re: Infinity focus issue with NX300 in night shots

Focussing for night shots is tricky since we usually don’t have enough light to use the autofocus. There are mainly three options:

  1. If there is any light source far away you can try to focus on this point. Afterwards set the focus to manual focus to lock it.
  2. If the previous failed try to set your ISO to the maximum value, turn on the framing mode and enable manual focus with the MF Assist setting set to “Enlarge 8x”. This is only for focussing and is needed to show you the stars as bright as possible on your display. Now try to focus until you see sharp dots or at least one proper focussed star. You can set reset the changed settings (framing mode, MF assist, ISO) after you got a proper focus.
  3. In the case both methods fail you need to do some try and error on focussing, sorry

Source: How to photograph the stars

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OP MrSaffron New Member • Posts: 11
Re: Infinity focus issue with NX300 in night shots

Cool thanks for all the answers

Will be sure to be back once I get time to hang out down the garden and try some of the tips out

OP MrSaffron New Member • Posts: 11
Much better but shows need for remote shutter or using shutter delay

Okay so had a clear evening tonight and the moon was out and getting much better pictures, but capturing a few light trails from planes reveal a further improvement that I need to make.

i.e. Use a 5 second or so timer to let camera settle down, from the wobble of the shutter press

OR

Invest in a remote shutter switch, which would also let me use bulb mode

The tips about focus really did work well.

See start of plain trail for the effect the shutter press has

Another example of judder

Might pop out again later and see how much better I can get

OP MrSaffron New Member • Posts: 11
Re: Much better but shows need for remote shutter or using shutter delay

OK 10 second shutter delay and 30 second exposure, and short star trails, so presume this is down to the earths rotation.

Matt Everglade Regular Member • Posts: 200
Re: Much better but shows need for remote shutter or using shutter delay

They are quite long for 30 secs, mine were much shorter

ISO 100 is too low, I would suggest using ISO 1600.

See: http://matteverglade.com/photography/how-to-photograph-the-stars/

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