Wide angle for A7/R?

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iullian Regular Member • Posts: 201
Wide angle for A7/R?

Now, there are enough owners and testers, so an answer must be out there.

I will be travelling through the capitals of some European countries and I want to travel light.

So, in addition to my FE 35/2.8 and FE 55/1.8, which wide should I seek for?

- light and relative small

- sharp when stopped down

- easy to correct in PP or already optically corrected (you know, architecture is the main photography during this trips).

The ones I'm thinking of are:

- Voigtlander 15/4.5 - I saw some corrected photos taken with A7 and it looked promising

- Voigtlander 21/1.8 - expensive solution, but...

- Samyang/Rokinon 14/2.8 (T3.5) - correctable in PP, but on the huge side

- Sony 20/2.8 - I have not seen any photos in combination with A7/R

Suggestions, please?

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seachicken2000
seachicken2000 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,183
Re: Wide angle for A7/R?

iullian wrote:

- Samyang/Rokinon 14/2.8 (T3.5) - correctable in PP, but on the huge side

I am thinking this one. LR corrects the distortion pretty well, and on an A7r it could be used as a 14mm FF, and 21mm (equiv) on an APS-C crop, effectively covering most of the ultrawide range.

It's been tested on FF and APS-C on DXO and is rated very highly on both formats.

The issues for me are the weight (like you) and also the upcoming wide angle zoom that's on the roadmap for this year, which could be a more versatile option.

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Zeisschen
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Re: Wide angle for A7/R?

Zeiss Touit 12mm 2.8. I have this lens and love it on the A7r. It will give you a 18mm FF equivalent view and reduced to crop mode (10MP on A7), but those 10MP are all sharp into the corners. If you don't want to worry about corner performance, vignetting or violet corner I'd take this. And it can AF as well!

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ZzzooM3
ZzzooM3 Regular Member • Posts: 272
Re: Wide angle for A7/R?
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Now, there are enough owners and testers, so an answer must be out there.

I will be travelling through the capitals of some European countries and I want to travel light.

So, in addition to my FE 35/2.8 and FE 55/1.8, which wide should I seek for?

- light and relative small

- sharp when stopped down

- easy to correct in PP or already optically corrected (you know, architecture is the main photography during this trips).

The ones I'm thinking of are:

- Voigtlander 15/4.5 - I saw some corrected photos taken with A7 and it looked promising

- Voigtlander 21/1.8 - expensive solution, but...

- Samyang/Rokinon 14/2.8 (T3.5) - correctable in PP, but on the huge side

- Sony 20/2.8 - I have not seen any photos in combination with A7/R

Suggestions, please?

None of them. Get the kit lens or the Vario-Tessar ZA for your trip. Leave the others home.

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iullian OP Regular Member • Posts: 201
Re: Wide angle for A7/R?

ZzzooM3 wrote:

Now, there are enough owners and testers, so an answer must be out there.

I will be travelling through the capitals of some European countries and I want to travel light.

So, in addition to my FE 35/2.8 and FE 55/1.8, which wide should I seek for?

- light and relative small

- sharp when stopped down

- easy to correct in PP or already optically corrected (you know, architecture is the main photography during this trips).

The ones I'm thinking of are:

- Voigtlander 15/4.5 - I saw some corrected photos taken with A7 and it looked promising

- Voigtlander 21/1.8 - expensive solution, but...

- Samyang/Rokinon 14/2.8 (T3.5) - correctable in PP, but on the huge side

- Sony 20/2.8 - I have not seen any photos in combination with A7/R

Suggestions, please?

None of them. Get the kit lens or the Vario-Tessar ZA for your trip. Leave the others home.

I sold the kit lens after a week of use. After I used the FE lenses 35/2.8 (own it) and 55/1.8 (only a day - I ordered mine and still waiting from Amazon shipment) I became very picky.

The Zeiss 24-70/4 does not offer me much, except the 24 wide. But I would not buy a 24 wide for >1000€

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Richt2000 Senior Member • Posts: 2,900
Re: Wide angle for A7/R?

My suggestion is to do a search. There are many threads discussing.

i even replied to one yesterday listing all the best WA lenses for A7r

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artistguy Contributing Member • Posts: 894
Re: Wide angle for A7/R?

Your wanting architecture so have a look at the Canon TS17, expensive but very good. I own the Samyang 14mm, it's sharp stopped down but does have a difficult distortion when used with straight edges and CA when the sky and trees are involved, it is heavy (reassuringly so!) but cheap.

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jafleming3 Contributing Member • Posts: 520
Re: Wide angle for A7/R?

Have you considered using your FE 35mm lens for panorama shots (stacked as well as sideways), stitching them together with PTGui Pro software?  I've used this technique to get an entire scene in one frame without lens distortions of any sort.  Something to bear in mind:  you'll end up with some very large image files!

cheers,

john

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Fredy Ross Veteran Member • Posts: 6,722
Re: Wide angle for A7/R?

Why not buy a small silent camera like the rx100ii. Always good to take two cameras and I speak from experience. The a7r as much as I love it is VERY loud.

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Mel Snyder
Mel Snyder Veteran Member • Posts: 4,088
Re: Wide angle for A7/R?

jafleming3 wrote:

Have you considered using your FE 35mm lens for panorama shots (stacked as well as sideways), stitching them together with PTGui Pro software? I've used this technique to get an entire scene in one frame without lens distortions of any sort. Something to bear in mind: you'll end up with some very large image files!

cheers,

john

Actually, as I found with the NEX-6, panoramas of interiors  - even shot vertically - bend diagonal structures unacceptably. You need a real wide angle.

As soon as I have time this week, I will test and post my 17mm f3.5 Tokina AT-X Pro. Big, but smaller than the 14mm Samyang. Full frame - but I have never used it except on my old D70 10 years ago, when it was much superior to my 20mm f2.8 Nikkor AF, even on APS-C. A few interior shots with it looked wide open looked promising.

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Re: Wide angle for A7/R?

iullian wrote:

Now, there are enough owners and testers, so an answer must be out there.

I will be travelling through the capitals of some European countries and I want to travel light.

So, in addition to my FE 35/2.8 and FE 55/1.8, which wide should I seek for?

- light and relative small

- sharp when stopped down

- easy to correct in PP or already optically corrected (you know, architecture is the main photography during this trips).

The ones I'm thinking of are:

- Voigtlander 15/4.5 - I saw some corrected photos taken with A7 and it looked promising

- Voigtlander 21/1.8 - expensive solution, but...

- Samyang/Rokinon 14/2.8 (T3.5) - correctable in PP, but on the huge side

- Sony 20/2.8 - I have not seen any photos in combination with A7/R

Suggestions, please?

I tried few UWA lenses on A7r here: http://verybiglobo.blogspot.cz/2014/01/sony-alpha-a7-ilce-7-and-sony-alpha-a7r_30.html , and I would suggest to consider Olympus OM 18/3.5 or 21/3.5…

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Re: Wide angle for A7/R?

I'd go with Mel's suggestion, I am using an old model Tokina 17mm and for now it's the only lens that doesn't give magenta corners and vignetting is very modest, also, I bought mine for just 80 euros.

A7r + Tokina 17mm

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Fred Briggs
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Re: Wide angle for A7/R?

Have you considered the Sony 10-18?

Some examples here (all those where EXIF shows focal length below 24mm):

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3629359

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halbraun Regular Member • Posts: 278
Re: Wide angle for A7/R?

I found a little Nikon AF 20mm 2.8. Very small. Fast enough on the A7, good color, not much in the way of distortion.. And you can find one for a couple of hundred dollars and easily sell it for what you paid.for it.

lets you play with that focal length without a lot of risk.. Mine is a keeper.

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kkx72 New Member • Posts: 14
Re: Wide angle for A7/R?

Voigtlander20mm F3.5 SL

Compact size SLR lens without colour shift problem

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japa Forum Member • Posts: 60
Re: Wide angle for A7/R?

I think the Voitlander 20 3.5 II is a great little lens. I have it in a Canon mount and use it with Metabones III and get full EXIF data. Hard infinity stop, great build, easy focus ergonomics, no colour cast, and small,small,small! Bought mint used for $399.

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Micky1976 New Member • Posts: 18
Re: Wide angle for A7/R?

iullian wrote:

Now, there are enough owners and testers, so an answer must be out there.

I will be travelling through the capitals of some European countries and I want to travel light.

So, in addition to my FE 35/2.8 and FE 55/1.8, which wide should I seek for?

- light and relative small

- sharp when stopped down

- easy to correct in PP or already optically corrected (you know, architecture is the main photography during this trips).

The ones I'm thinking of are:

- Voigtlander 15/4.5 - I saw some corrected photos taken with A7 and it looked promising

- Voigtlander 21/1.8 - expensive solution, but...

- Samyang/Rokinon 14/2.8 (T3.5) - correctable in PP, but on the huge side

- Sony 20/2.8 - I have not seen any photos in combination with A7/R

Suggestions, please?

Zeiss needs to get it's A7 E mount wide angle zoom (16/17-35) on the market sooner rather than later.  The 24-70 zoom looks OKish, but I am hoping the wide angle will be better.

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ZzzooM3
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Re: Wide angle for A7/R?
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iullian wrote:

ZzzooM3 wrote:

Now, there are enough owners and testers, so an answer must be out there.

I will be travelling through the capitals of some European countries and I want to travel light.

So, in addition to my FE 35/2.8 and FE 55/1.8, which wide should I seek for?

- light and relative small

- sharp when stopped down

- easy to correct in PP or already optically corrected (you know, architecture is the main photography during this trips).

The ones I'm thinking of are:

- Voigtlander 15/4.5 - I saw some corrected photos taken with A7 and it looked promising

- Voigtlander 21/1.8 - expensive solution, but...

- Samyang/Rokinon 14/2.8 (T3.5) - correctable in PP, but on the huge side

- Sony 20/2.8 - I have not seen any photos in combination with A7/R

Suggestions, please?

None of them. Get the kit lens or the Vario-Tessar ZA for your trip. Leave the others home.

I sold the kit lens after a week of use. After I used the FE lenses 35/2.8 (own it) and 55/1.8 (only a day - I ordered mine and still waiting from Amazon shipment) I became very picky.

The Zeiss 24-70/4 does not offer me much, except the 24 wide. But I would not buy a 24 wide for >1000€

Perhaps so but it offers single lens flexibility for use during travel minimizing how much you have to carry and how much you can get stolen which is why I suggested the kit lens. I ALWAYS hear of camera and phone thefts from friends and acquaintances when they travel overseas. I think there must be an invisible tag that yells, I'm a tourist -- rob me!

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ravinj Contributing Member • Posts: 587
Re: Wide angle for A7/R?

+1.

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calxn Contributing Member • Posts: 806
Maybe wait till you need one?

Unless you're need a wide angle TODAY, it's probably best to wait.  This system is 3 1/2 months old.  Go ahead and buy any of those options, but you might be filled with regret if Sony/Zeiss announces something in a few weeks.

As for me, I a have a 10-18 that I am using on my Nex 7 till Sony/Zeiss presents a better option.  That new wide angle zoom will come out just when the weather will turns.

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