Samsung vs Fuji

Actually my Samsung gear is NX100 & NX300 and:

16mm/ 30mm/ 45mm/ 60mm/ 85mm/ 20-50mm/ 18-50mm/ 50-200mm

Do you think Fuji XT-1 or XE-2 with 18-55mm/ 23mm/ 35mm / 56mm will give me better IQ and High Iso Work?

I would agree with most of THERICKY's comments..  I have the X-T1 and just received the NX30 today.  The initial NX30 IQ and shooting experience is exceptional.  I shot my daughters engagement photos this weekend with the X-T1 and NX300 and found myself preferring images from the NX300 with 30 F2.0 the majority of the time.  It was quite surprising to me.  I will probably sell the X-T1 and 23mm as I prefer the Samsung image rendering.  Manual focus with the NX30 is very good.  Almost as good as the X-T1.

It depends. If you prefer to shoot JPG only and rely on the in-camera conversion, then Fuji may be a better solution.

However, I would not recommend X-Trans to RAW shooters or those who spend a lot of time in post-processing.

I feel the NX30 is next incremental step up in the Samsung sensor performance.  The nX300 is also exceptional but I believe the NX30 is definitely better.  The AF has been dead on accurate and also very effective in Low light.  I shot the 18-55 hand held at 1/4 second with no motion blur.  Very impressive.  So far so good, and I personally prefer it with the 30mm f2 over the X-t1 with 23.

I agree that Fuji jpeg is superior to NX30 jpeg.  LR5 does support NX30 RAW.

Damn, I was thinking of switching from Samsung to Fuji, because of all the wonderful things I've read and heard about lenses, IQ, my NX300 flaws, lack of EVf, ... but according to what you are saying, it doesn't seem to be the best thing to do.

TheRicky0618 wrote:

I'm a currently a user of a Samsung NX300 and have some good Samsung glass ( 16,30,45,85 ) the 85mm being my favorite! and I'm very content with it, in the lens department It's hard to see any difference, I used to be a Fuji user ( XE-1 ) with a 35mm 1.4 and the kit lens 18-55mm 2.8 lens were slow to focus in low light but with excellent results once you get it in focus, jpgs are awesome on fuji up to isoISO 3200 but raw files on Samsung are also very good up to 3200 ISO, responsiveness on the Samsung is better and the wifi feature was the winner specially now that you can tap and focus using an iPhone or any tablet, the X-E2 seems to be fast but almost equal in speed to the Samsung NX300 ( a friend has it ) I really considering the Fuji X-T1 instead with the 23mm 1.4 and the 56mm 1.2 ( once is out ), whats seems to be amazing and I hope Samsung can match on Fuji remote app is the interface and the well designed control over the remote app ( not only you can focus, you can capture on any mode and filters available, not sure if capturing in RAW is possible but I won't doubt it ) At this point I won't get ready off my Samsung camera and glass because of it's amazing quality and performance after all the NX300/16mm 2.4 is way smaller than the fuji X-T1/23mm 1.4 combo and can easily fit on a coat pocket ... No way you can do that with the Fuji combo!

Every time I try to switch from Samsung they impress me.  I prefer it in most ways to my A7 except for outright image quality.

Eric

Samsunguser wrote:

Actually my Samsung gear is NX100 & NX300 and:

16mm/ 30mm/ 45mm/ 60mm/ 85mm/ 20-50mm/ 18-50mm/ 50-200mm

Do you think Fuji XT-1 or XE-2 with 18-55mm/ 23mm/ 35mm / 56mm will give me better IQ and High Iso Work?

It will give you better IQ at High ISO (but not better IQ at low iso). 35mm is very slow to focus. All samples fro 56mm that i've seen look soft until stopped down to 2.0 (nx 85mm is clearly sharper wide open, however focal lenght is a but less useful for my purpose). 23mm is apparantly a  good lens, but very overpriced.

I think you could gie it a try, make comparison and let us know I'm eager to risk your money. But honestly I think you will spend 3x as much money as on Samsung and the improvement will be visible only in low light. Samsung lenses are good. You can as well invest in upcoming premium zoom 16-50 2-2.8, I will have better range and most likely better IQ than 18-55mm (plus it will be 1EV faster, which negates fuji IQ advantage).

arbuz wrote:

But honestly I think you will spend 3x as much money as on Samsung and the improvement will be visible only in low light.

I considered switching, and this was exactly the conclusion I came to... I haven't owned a fuji camera, but although the sample pictures I've seen are excellent, the price just doesn't seem to justify the difference. If money were no object, I'd probably pick up an X-T1, but as I have to pay for it....

TheRicky0618 wrote:

I'm a currently a user of a Samsung NX300 and have some good Samsung glass ( 16,30,45,85 ) the 85mm being my favorite! and I'm very content with it, in the lens department It's hard to see any difference, I used to be a Fuji user ( XE-1 ) with a 35mm 1.4 and the kit lens 18-55mm 2.8 lens were slow to focus in low light but with excellent results once you get it in focus, jpgs are awesome on fuji up to isoISO 3200 but raw files on Samsung are also very good up to 3200 ISO

Although jpeg seem to be awesome on the Fuji, do you think the same results could be achieved with careful RAW processing on the NX300 ? Appart from looking clean (and rather soft at high ISO), Fuji pictures are very vivid and appealing, as were their slide films. But with digital processing, isn't it possible to get about the same results with any image, by gently adjusting sliders in a PP software ?

If I read what you have just written, a NX300 is as capable as a X-E1, it just requires a bit more work. But the quality can be matched, for a lower price.

I have the same Samsung gears as you (haven't like the 20mm, so I sold it) and I was about to switch to a discounted X-E1. But testimonies coming from people who know both Fuji and Samsung cameras have brought some doubts ...

, responsiveness on the Samsung is better and the wifi feature was the winner specially now that you can tap and focus using an iPhone or any tablet, the X-E2 seems to be fast but almost equal in speed to the Samsung NX300 ( a friend has it ) I really considering the Fuji X-T1 instead with the 23mm 1.4 and the 56mm 1.2 ( once is out ), whats seems to be amazing and I hope Samsung can match on Fuji remote app is the interface and the well designed control over the remote app ( not only you can focus, you can capture on any mode and filters available, not sure if capturing in RAW is possible but I won't doubt it ) At this point I won't get ready off my Samsung camera and glass because of it's amazing quality and performance after all the NX300/16mm 2.4 is way smaller than the fuji X-T1/23mm 1.4 combo and can easily fit on a coat pocket ... No way you can do that with the Fuji combo!

Remember, you're comparing 16MP to 20MP. Even if the noise level of the NX appears more, the difference in resolution may still give the overall edge to Samsung.

Ysarex wrote:

targut wrote:

It depends. If you prefer to shoot JPG only and rely on the in-camera conversion, then Fuji may be a better solution.

However, I would not recommend X-Trans to RAW shooters or those who spend a lot of time in post-processing.

Hmmm?? I'm a raw shooter and have really been enjoying my new Fuji X-E2 with X-Trans sensor. What am I doing that you wouldn't recommend?

Probably referring to early versions of demosaicing software.  I don't mind new Lightroom/ACR with X-Trans, but the early versions were horrid.

Eric

Samsunguser wrote:

this point open a new debate about 16 or 20 Mp

not necessarily...

...because the X-Trans has in addition a different pattern.

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More green pixel per area and less red and blue pixel at (partly) bigger distances to eachother at the same time...

...which results in slightly less luminance noise but noticeably less color resolution:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/fuji-x-e1/FULLRES/XE1hVFAI00200.HTM

look at the red+blue Siemens star in comparison to the green+black...

...the color differentiation is lost (at the red+blue) even before you get half way to the center.