Random subject on street, is this sharp enough?

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EthanP99 Senior Member • Posts: 2,436
Random subject on street, is this sharp enough?

This is a crop of a photo from a random person on the street as I was attending a wedding expo with my new A7, Just wondering if this could have been sharper? Or am I too picky?

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davect01
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Re: Random subject on street, is this sharp enough?

Plenty sharp enough for 90% of the needs out there.

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Re: Random subject on street, is this sharp enough?

For most intents and purposes, I would say yes, it is OK.

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325East Regular Member • Posts: 106
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It could have been sharper if you'd shot it at 1/125 or 1/250.   The rule that an exposure of a reciprocal of the focal length is too sketchy to depend on.  The common rule of thumb that you can shoot a 50mm lens at 1/60 means that the results most of the time will look sufficiently sharp when enlarged around 8 X and the resulting print looked at at arm's length but it will not necessarily be critically sharpness.  Your lens will become razor sharp if you shoot it hand held no slower than 1/125.

Faketastic Regular Member • Posts: 163
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This could have been much sharper. I just did my first real day with the 55mm and my conclusion is that it needs at least 1/125 to shine.

Sharp enough? Only you can decide..

tex Veteran Member • Posts: 7,201
In a shot like this, why would it matter? /nt
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sean lancaster
sean lancaster Veteran Member • Posts: 7,248
Re: Random subject on street, is this sharp enough?

325East wrote:

It could have been sharper if you'd shot it at 1/125 or 1/250. The rule that an exposure of a reciprocal of the focal length is too sketchy to depend on. The common rule of thumb that you can shoot a 50mm lens at 1/60 means that the results most of the time will look sufficiently sharp when enlarged around 8 X and the resulting print looked at at arm's length but it will not necessarily be critically sharpness. Your lens will become razor sharp if you shoot it hand held no slower than 1/125.

This is why learning to shoot in M mode is so important. You can place the shutter speed at 1/125 and ISO at Auto. You then only have to think about the aperture for each shot to try and get the best exposure (and ideally you are getting closer to ISO 100 in very good light). The 1/60 clearly had an impact on this shot when pixel peeping. Then again, the shot isn't unsharp enough to be a problem, and that's what really matters. The Zeiss 55 is much sharper than this shot displays, though.

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EthanP99 wrote:

This is a crop of a photo from a random person on the street as I was attending a wedding expo with my new A7, Just wondering if this could have been sharper? Or am I too picky?

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Re: In a shot like this, why would it matter? /nt
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tex wrote:

In a shot like this, why would it matter?

I can't speak for the OP, but for me it always matters when I don't get perfection. Photography is my hobby and I strive to get the best shot every time I take a picture. When I don't, I actually enjoy analyzing my mistakes and learning from them so that I can try and avoid being the reason I am not reaching my potential. It's fun for some of us.

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osv Veteran Member • Posts: 8,646
Re: Random subject on street, is this sharp enough?

motion blur, too slow of a shutter.

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Pete peterson
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The skin of her neck has no definition (for ISO 160) and if you look at the zipper and stitching they are also not defined very well. The fake fur looks very mashy.

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Pete peterson wrote:

The skin of her neck has no definition (for ISO 160) and if you look at the zipper and stitching they are also not defined very well. The fake fur looks very mashy.

That is due to limited DOF.

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kenetik Regular Member • Posts: 176
Re: Random subject on street, is this sharp enough?

I think the short answer is yes it is sharp enough! 

Donny out of Element here Contributing Member • Posts: 996
Re: shaky shaky hands... or subject was moving...

It's not as sharp as it could be - you need higher shutter speed. Judging by this image your hands are not steady enough for hand held 55mm 1/60 shot or your subject was not perfectly still. This lens can do much better.

RonFrank
RonFrank Senior Member • Posts: 2,130
Re: Random subject on street, is this sharp enough?

I can count her eyelashes, the wrinkles around her eyes, the pores around her nose.  When is it sharp enough?

The question is not is the image sharp rather what would make this rather plain shot really stand out? Well the background is busy without adding to the shot. The woman is shot strait on. The light is flat.  As a street shot it is good, but hardly outstanding.

The question one should be asking is where to position ones self to capture a truly inspired street shot? How can the lighting be used better?  Is a wider lens more interesting?  Should we see more of the subject vs. a headshot?

This discussion about how many freckles can we count and how many hairs are OOF is boring.  What one should be asking is what would make this shot more interesting.

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Re: Random subject on street, is this sharp enough?

EthanP99 wrote:

This is a crop of a photo from a random person on the street as I was attending a wedding expo with my new A7, Just wondering if this could have been sharper? Or am I too picky?

Unless you plan to print a poster size print, this should be plenty sharp for most uses.

There is some small movement blur that a faster shutter speed would eliminate.

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bigley Ling Veteran Member • Posts: 3,649
Re: Random subject on street, is this sharp enough?

I think it is plenty sharp. It is a very show off type of image where you can just keep cropping in and seeing more detail! Good work.

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