Nikon Df Review Bombs...Kinda

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Nikon Df Review Bombs...Kinda
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dgrPhotos Forum Member • Posts: 88
Re: Nikon Df Review Bombs...Kinda
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Seems like the biggest complaint is value and that will be different for everyone.

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David G72 Forum Member • Posts: 74
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Does anyone even take these guys seriously? Their review sucks with horrible sample images...

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Rexgig0 Senior Member • Posts: 3,261
Re: Nikon Df Review, by mediocre reviewer.
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David G72 wrote:

Does anyone even take these guys seriously? Their review sucks with horrible sample images...

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Agreed. The factual and grammatical errors in the first few paragraphs told me all I needed to know about this blog's credibility. One such example of the former is that this blogger seems largely ignorant of Nikon's lens line-up. If I knew nothing about the Df, this review would be a "fail."

I say this as a rather harsh critic of the Df, whose only real interest is the D4 sensor in a smaller form factor, for my night shooting. I can be "pure" and retro with my FM3A cameras.

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Patrick McMahon
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Another favorable review
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I just love the hyperbole spewed by the Df birthers.

i found that to be quite favorable review. While I take exception with some of the claims all in all they touched on the pluses that made me purchase it.

The Df by virtue of its design can't win over typical DSLR reviews. It can though- score better if it has upgraded AF, 1/8000, dedicated format button. though there are some cut a pastes from other reviews (mistakenly referring to the D610 shutter) I have always said it is a try before you buy camera- for some.

all in all- no surprises. Seems the groundswell is beginning to affect the reviews a bit.

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Josh152 Senior Member • Posts: 1,889
The thing about the Df is
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it only appeals to a very specific niche of people, well maybe two niches.  One is those who like the cosmetic design and/or old school dials so much they are willing to pay a premium over the D610 to get them and the other is people who want the absolutely best sensor for high ISO shooting but can't or don't want to pay for a D4 and/or don't want to have to to lug such a large camera around.  To those who dont' fall into those categories the Df is just an overpriced D610 with less features and a new set of clothes. In other words, pointless.  To the people that do, especially the ones in the first category,  it is the best Nikon camera ever. With such divergent,  completely opposite, and emotionally charged opinions and no one really being able to see from or accept the other sides point of view it is no wonder there is so much angst surrounding the camera.

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Josh152 wrote:

it only appeals to a very specific niche of people, well maybe two niches. One is those who like the cosmetic design and/or old school dials so much they are willing to pay a premium over the D610 to get them and the other is people who want the absolutely best sensor for high ISO shooting but can't or don't want to pay for a D4 and/or don't want to have to to lug such a large camera around. To those who dont' fall into those categories the Df is just an overpriced D610 with less features and a new set of clothes. In other words, pointless. To the people that do, especially the ones in the first category, it is the best Nikon camera ever. With such divergent, completely opposite, and emotionally charged opinions and no one really being able to see from or accept the other sides point of view it is no wonder there is so much angst surrounding the camera.

Ever tried to shoot with two D4 cameras because you have no time to change lenses? How's your neck?

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Re: The thing about the Df is

Josh152 wrote:

it only appeals to a very specific niche of people, well maybe two niches. One is those who like the cosmetic design and/or old school dials so much they are willing to pay a premium over the D610 to get them and the other is people who want the absolutely best sensor for high ISO shooting but can't or don't want to pay for a D4 and/or don't want to have to to lug such a large camera around. To those who dont' fall into those categories the Df is just an overpriced D610 with less features and a new set of clothes. In other words, pointless. To the people that do, especially the ones in the first category, it is the best Nikon camera ever. With such divergent, completely opposite, and emotionally charged opinions and no one really being able to see from or accept the other sides point of view it is no wonder there is so much angst surrounding the camera.

Josh- I don't completely agree with some of  your descriptions- but pretty good. Factor into that people who believe the retro could have been better implemented and the knowledge that their is a finite number of Dslr's introduced every cycle... Pretty volatile. I think if the white elephant D710 was introns at the same time there would be a lot more acceptance of the Df.

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brianric Veteran Member • Posts: 6,162
Re: The thing about the Df is
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Iliah Borg wrote:

Josh152 wrote:

it only appeals to a very specific niche of people, well maybe two niches. One is those who like the cosmetic design and/or old school dials so much they are willing to pay a premium over the D610 to get them and the other is people who want the absolutely best sensor for high ISO shooting but can't or don't want to pay for a D4 and/or don't want to have to to lug such a large camera around. To those who dont' fall into those categories the Df is just an overpriced D610 with less features and a new set of clothes. In other words, pointless. To the people that do, especially the ones in the first category, it is the best Nikon camera ever. With such divergent, completely opposite, and emotionally charged opinions and no one really being able to see from or accept the other sides point of view it is no wonder there is so much angst surrounding the camera.

Ever tried to shoot with two D4 cameras because you have no time to change lenses? How's your neck?

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caspianm Senior Member • Posts: 2,134
Re: The thing about the Df is

Josh152 wrote:

it only appeals to a very specific niche of people, well maybe two niches. One is those who like the cosmetic design and/or old school dials so much they are willing to pay a premium over the D610 to get them and the other is people who want the absolutely best sensor for high ISO shooting but can't or don't want to pay for a D4 and/or don't want to have to to lug such a large camera around. To those who dont' fall into those categories the Df is just an overpriced D610 with less features and a new set of clothes. In other words, pointless. To the people that do, especially the ones in the first category, it is the best Nikon camera ever. With such divergent, completely opposite, and emotionally charged opinions and no one really being able to see from or accept the other sides point of view it is no wonder there is so much angst surrounding the camera.

I don't own the Df but posting the same over & over about Df has become really painful. Are you trying to convince yourself?

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Iliah Borg Forum Pro • Posts: 19,790
Re: The thing about the Df is
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brianric wrote:

Iliah Borg wrote:

Josh152 wrote:

it only appeals to a very specific niche of people, well maybe two niches. One is those who like the cosmetic design and/or old school dials so much they are willing to pay a premium over the D610 to get them and the other is people who want the absolutely best sensor for high ISO shooting but can't or don't want to pay for a D4 and/or don't want to have to to lug such a large camera around. To those who dont' fall into those categories the Df is just an overpriced D610 with less features and a new set of clothes. In other words, pointless. To the people that do, especially the ones in the first category, it is the best Nikon camera ever. With such divergent, completely opposite, and emotionally charged opinions and no one really being able to see from or accept the other sides point of view it is no wonder there is so much angst surrounding the camera.

Ever tried to shoot with two D4 cameras because you have no time to change lenses? How's your neck?

I've shot with two D800 with grips, one with SB-910 attached using Black Rapid setup for a six to eight hour shoot with no problems, and I'm 64. Of course I'm using f/4.0 lenses (24-120 & 70-200).

I find it easier to use 2 Df cameras and 2 fast primes.

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Iliah Borg wrote:

Josh152 wrote:

it only appeals to a very specific niche of people, well maybe two niches. One is those who like the cosmetic design and/or old school dials so much they are willing to pay a premium over the D610 to get them and the other is people who want the absolutely best sensor for high ISO shooting but can't or don't want to pay for a D4 and/or don't want to have to to lug such a large camera around. To those who dont' fall into those categories the Df is just an overpriced D610 with less features and a new set of clothes. In other words, pointless. To the people that do, especially the ones in the first category, it is the best Nikon camera ever. With such divergent, completely opposite, and emotionally charged opinions and no one really being able to see from or accept the other sides point of view it is no wonder there is so much angst surrounding the camera.

Ever tried to shoot with two D4 cameras because you have no time to change lenses? How's your neck?

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No, however I did say not wanting to lug around D4s and still wanting the sensor was a reason people like the Df so I'm not sure why you are asking.

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dgrPhotos wrote:

Seems like the biggest complaint is value and that will be different for everyone.

Seemed like a reasonable review to me, the things they didn't like were based mostly on personal preference.  Ignoring value, which I don't think is really relevant, the camera gets 17/20.  They gave it 4/5 stars and a "recommended" rating; I'm not sure what more they could do, it's not THAT great a camera

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Iliah Borg Forum Pro • Posts: 19,790
Re: The thing about the Df is
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Josh152 wrote:

Iliah Borg wrote:

Josh152 wrote:

it only appeals to a very specific niche of people, well maybe two niches. One is those who like the cosmetic design and/or old school dials so much they are willing to pay a premium over the D610 to get them and the other is people who want the absolutely best sensor for high ISO shooting but can't or don't want to pay for a D4 and/or don't want to have to to lug such a large camera around. To those who dont' fall into those categories the Df is just an overpriced D610 with less features and a new set of clothes. In other words, pointless. To the people that do, especially the ones in the first category, it is the best Nikon camera ever. With such divergent, completely opposite, and emotionally charged opinions and no one really being able to see from or accept the other sides point of view it is no wonder there is so much angst surrounding the camera.

Ever tried to shoot with two D4 cameras because you have no time to change lenses? How's your neck?

No, however I did say not wanting to lug around D4s and still wanting the sensor was a reason people like the Df so I'm not sure why you are asking.

You said "large". That is not exactly the only problem. Another problem is heavy. Unnecessary heavy for many applications.

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Iliah Borg wrote:

brianric wrote:

Iliah Borg wrote:

Josh152 wrote:

it only appeals to a very specific niche of people, well maybe two niches. One is those who like the cosmetic design and/or old school dials so much they are willing to pay a premium over the D610 to get them and the other is people who want the absolutely best sensor for high ISO shooting but can't or don't want to pay for a D4 and/or don't want to have to to lug such a large camera around. To those who dont' fall into those categories the Df is just an overpriced D610 with less features and a new set of clothes. In other words, pointless. To the people that do, especially the ones in the first category, it is the best Nikon camera ever. With such divergent, completely opposite, and emotionally charged opinions and no one really being able to see from or accept the other sides point of view it is no wonder there is so much angst surrounding the camera.

Ever tried to shoot with two D4 cameras because you have no time to change lenses? How's your neck?

I've shot with two D800 with grips, one with SB-910 attached using Black Rapid setup for a six to eight hour shoot with no problems, and I'm 64. Of course I'm using f/4.0 lenses (24-120 & 70-200).

I find it easier to use 2 Df cameras and 2 fast primes.

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Primes are useless on my type of photography, which is event type. Also, if you're using fast primes, why a Df?

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Iliah Borg Forum Pro • Posts: 19,790
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Primes are useless on my type of photography, which is event type.

Yes. Before zooms emerged event photography never existed.

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I can't help but snicker at these kinds of inane generalizations
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Josh152 wrote:

it only appeals to a very specific niche of people, well maybe two niches. One is those who like the cosmetic design and/or old school dials so much they are willing to pay a premium over the D610 to get them and the other is people who want the absolutely best sensor for high ISO shooting but can't or don't want to pay for a D4 and/or don't want to have to to lug such a large camera around. To those who dont' fall into those categories the Df is just an overpriced D610 with less features and a new set of clothes. In other words, pointless. To the people that do, especially the ones in the first category, it is the best Nikon camera ever. With such divergent, completely opposite, and emotionally charged opinions and no one really being able to see from or accept the other sides point of view it is no wonder there is so much angst surrounding the camera.

What about folks like me who also want an unobtrusive camera for candid photography (I've yet to have anyone not already aware what the camera was curious about the Dƒ, whereas the D800 elicits "Is that a DX00?" at every event I shoot)? Dƒ + small prime also draws considerably less attention on the street. Do I have to choose one of those aforementioned niches or can you speak one into existence for me and my ilk as well?

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Iliah Borg Forum Pro • Posts: 19,790
Re: I can't help but snicker at these kinds of inane generalizations
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Generally, all those attempts in classifications of people are rather disgusting

Kabe Luna wrote:

Josh152 wrote:

it only appeals to a very specific niche of people, well maybe two niches. One is those who like the cosmetic design and/or old school dials so much they are willing to pay a premium over the D610 to get them and the other is people who want the absolutely best sensor for high ISO shooting but can't or don't want to pay for a D4 and/or don't want to have to to lug such a large camera around. To those who dont' fall into those categories the Df is just an overpriced D610 with less features and a new set of clothes. In other words, pointless. To the people that do, especially the ones in the first category, it is the best Nikon camera ever. With such divergent, completely opposite, and emotionally charged opinions and no one really being able to see from or accept the other sides point of view it is no wonder there is so much angst surrounding the camera.

What about folks like me who also want an unobtrusive camera for candid photography (I've yet to have anyone not already aware what the camera was curious about the Dƒ, whereas the D800 elicits "Is that a DX00?" at every event I shoot)? Dƒ + small prime also draws considerably less attention on the street. Do I have to choose one of those aforementioned niches or can you speak one into existence for me and my ilk as well?

Yes, Df is attracting very little attention. Couple of times I was asked - are you still shooting film? Once I was asked to pull the film out.

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