Questions for A 65 owners

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Steven Norton
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Questions for A 65 owners

I've just bought the RX10 and while its a good camera it's painfully slow to zoom and it can't track moving objects. My question to A65 owners ( I don't want the size of the A77) will the A65 with either 18-135 or 18-250 serve me well? I like long zooms as I like wildlife and I only want a one lens solution. I need fast focusing. The tamron 18-270 pzd samples are horrible so that's off the list. Your opinions are appreciated.

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nandbytes Senior Member • Posts: 5,950
Re: Questions for A 65 owners

Steven Norton wrote:

I've just bought the RX10 and while its a good camera it's painfully slow to zoom and it can't track moving objects. My question to A65 owners ( I don't want the size of the A77) will the A65 with either 18-135 or 18-250 serve me well? I like long zooms as I like wildlife and I only want a one lens solution. I need fast focusing. The tamron 18-270 pzd samples are horrible so that's off the list. Your opinions are appreciated.

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Steve

Hi my sigma 18-250mm macro served me very well on my A57. But its the last APS-C lens left and I am finding it harder to sell than the others. The AF I felt was faster than tamron and for a superzoom i think its one of the sharpest. The HSM is fast, smooth and doesn't make much noise.

If you happen to be any where around London, you can try mine out if you like. (Honest offer, no intention of selling it to you unless you want it)

I also think 18-135 will give you sharper images.

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Re: Questions for A 65 owners

nandbytes wrote:

Steven Norton wrote:

I've just bought the RX10 and while its a good camera it's painfully slow to zoom and it can't track moving objects. My question to A65 owners ( I don't want the size of the A77) will the A65 with either 18-135 or 18-250 serve me well? I like long zooms as I like wildlife and I only want a one lens solution. I need fast focusing. The tamron 18-270 pzd samples are horrible so that's off the list. Your opinions are appreciated.

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Steve

Hi my sigma 18-250mm macro served me very well on my A57. But its the last APS-C lens left and I am finding it harder to sell than the others. The AF I felt was faster than tamron and for a superzoom i think its one of the sharpest. The HSM is fast, smooth and doesn't make much noise.

If you happen to be any where around London, you can try mine out if you like. (Honest offer, no intention of selling it to you unless you want it)

I also think 18-135 will give you sharper images.

I appreciate the offer but I live near Middlesbrough . Thanks for your input.

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Steve

nandbytes Senior Member • Posts: 5,950
Re: Questions for A 65 owners

Steven Norton wrote:

nandbytes wrote:

Steven Norton wrote:

I've just bought the RX10 and while its a good camera it's painfully slow to zoom and it can't track moving objects. My question to A65 owners ( I don't want the size of the A77) will the A65 with either 18-135 or 18-250 serve me well? I like long zooms as I like wildlife and I only want a one lens solution. I need fast focusing. The tamron 18-270 pzd samples are horrible so that's off the list. Your opinions are appreciated.

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Regards
Steve

Hi my sigma 18-250mm macro served me very well on my A57. But its the last APS-C lens left and I am finding it harder to sell than the others. The AF I felt was faster than tamron and for a superzoom i think its one of the sharpest. The HSM is fast, smooth and doesn't make much noise.

If you happen to be any where around London, you can try mine out if you like. (Honest offer, no intention of selling it to you unless you want it)

I also think 18-135 will give you sharper images.

I appreciate the offer but I live near Middlesbrough . Thanks for your input.

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Steve

Also consider the new tamron 16-300mm. Its not out yet and doesn't have any reviews but might be worth waiting for.

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Steven Norton
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Re: Questions for A 65 owners

nandbytes wrote:

Steven Norton wrote:

nandbytes wrote:

Steven Norton wrote:

I've just bought the RX10 and while its a good camera it's painfully slow to zoom and it can't track moving objects. My question to A65 owners ( I don't want the size of the A77) will the A65 with either 18-135 or 18-250 serve me well? I like long zooms as I like wildlife and I only want a one lens solution. I need fast focusing. The tamron 18-270 pzd samples are horrible so that's off the list. Your opinions are appreciated.

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Regards
Steve

Hi my sigma 18-250mm macro served me very well on my A57. But its the last APS-C lens left and I am finding it harder to sell than the others. The AF I felt was faster than tamron and for a superzoom i think its one of the sharpest. The HSM is fast, smooth and doesn't make much noise.

If you happen to be any where around London, you can try mine out if you like. (Honest offer, no intention of selling it to you unless you want it)

I also think 18-135 will give you sharper images.

I appreciate the offer but I live near Middlesbrough . Thanks for your input.

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Steve

Also consider the new tamron 16-300mm. Its not out yet and doesn't have any reviews but might be worth waiting for.

The optical distortion could be bad on a lens that long. And its heavy too. I want to stick with Sony for lens compatibility.

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Steve

nandbytes Senior Member • Posts: 5,950
Re: Questions for A 65 owners

Steven Norton wrote:

nandbytes wrote:

Steven Norton wrote:

nandbytes wrote:

Steven Norton wrote:

I've just bought the RX10 and while its a good camera it's painfully slow to zoom and it can't track moving objects. My question to A65 owners ( I don't want the size of the A77) will the A65 with either 18-135 or 18-250 serve me well? I like long zooms as I like wildlife and I only want a one lens solution. I need fast focusing. The tamron 18-270 pzd samples are horrible so that's off the list. Your opinions are appreciated.

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Regards
Steve

Hi my sigma 18-250mm macro served me very well on my A57. But its the last APS-C lens left and I am finding it harder to sell than the others. The AF I felt was faster than tamron and for a superzoom i think its one of the sharpest. The HSM is fast, smooth and doesn't make much noise.

If you happen to be any where around London, you can try mine out if you like. (Honest offer, no intention of selling it to you unless you want it)

I also think 18-135 will give you sharper images.

I appreciate the offer but I live near Middlesbrough . Thanks for your input.

The optical distorsion--
Regards
Steve

Also consider the new tamron 16-300mm. Its not out yet and doesn't have any reviews but might be worth waiting for.

The optical distortion could be bad on a lens that long. And its heavy too. I want to stick with Sony for lens compatibility.

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Steve

Some sony lenses are worth the money like sony 16-50mm, and some are overpriced and 18-250 is one of them IMO.

The sony 18-250 is actually the old tamron lens rebadged, its also nosier focusing too. I think both Sigma 18-250 and tamron 18-270 are better.

Sony 18-135mm I hear is very good, never used it myself. Also more cost effective I think.

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Ed at Ridersite Forum Pro • Posts: 18,111
Re: Questions for A 65 owners
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Steven Norton wrote:

My question to A65 owners ( I don't want the size of the A77) will the A65 with either 18-135 or 18-250 serve me well? I like long zooms as I like wildlife and I only want a one lens solution. I need fast focusing. The tamron 18-270 pzd samples are horrible so that's off the list. Your opinions are appreciated.

If you aren't happy with the Tamron 18-270mm IQ, I don't think you are going to be happy with any of the super zoom alternatives.  The advantage of the Sony options is that they provide image corrections if you shoot jpg.  This greatly improves distortion, CA/PF and vignetting, but not sharpness.  If you shoot RAW and post process, Lightroom has corrections for the old Tamron 18-250mm which is the same as the Sony - so the Tamron corrections can be used for the Sony.

The problem with the 18-135mm is that it is really not long enough for wildlife.  In fact, the 250-270mm max of the super zooms is fairly short for wildlife shooting.

If you want high IQ with wildlife, you are much better off with a dedicated lens - maybe the Sony 70-300mm or Tamron 70-300mm.  Also, the newly announced Tamron 150-600mm ($1079 US) looks very promising, but it isn't available yet in the A-mount.

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Re: Questions for A 65 owners

Ed at Ridersite wrote:

Steven Norton wrote:

My question to A65 owners ( I don't want the size of the A77) will the A65 with either 18-135 or 18-250 serve me well? I like long zooms as I like wildlife and I only want a one lens solution. I need fast focusing. The tamron 18-270 pzd samples are horrible so that's off the list. Your opinions are appreciated.

If you aren't happy with the Tamron 18-270mm IQ, I don't think you are going to be happy with any of the super zoom alternatives. The advantage of the Sony options is that they provide image corrections if you shoot jpg. This greatly improves distortion, CA/PF and vignetting, but not sharpness. If you shoot RAW and post process, Lightroom has corrections for the old Tamron 18-250mm which is the same as the Sony - so the Tamron corrections can be used for the Sony.

The problem with the 18-135mm is that it is really not long enough for wildlife. In fact, the 250-270mm max of the super zooms is fairly short for wildlife shooting.

If you want high IQ with wildlife, you are much better off with a dedicated lens - maybe the Sony 70-300mm or Tamron 70-300mm. Also, the newly announced Tamron 150-600mm ($1079 US) looks very promising, but it isn't available yet in the A-mount.

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doctorxring Senior Member • Posts: 1,341
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I have been running A65 since they came out.  I had a SAL18250 but was never very happy with it.  It's tempting because of it's huge zoom range fairly wide to fairly long.   But it's not that sharp unless f8.

My recommendation is to definitely get an A65 and then get the Sony 1650 and 70300G to go with it. You will have an exceptional kit that will provide you with great versatility and very high performance.

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OpticsEngineer Veteran Member • Posts: 5,856
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The RX10 goes to 200 mm, so I guess you are thinking of wildlife not too far away.

My A65+Tamron 18-270 is decent.      I think there is a lot of quality variation on the 18-270 though.  I also have the Tamron 18-270 for a Nikon D7100 and it has quite a bit less resolution at full zoom than my Sony version does.

But I will tell you what is better than my A65+18-270.    My NEX7+SEL18-200 lens is quite a bit better.     Pair that SEL-18200 up with the newer A6000 with its faster AF and that might be just the thing for you.

To me the RX10 seems like a bit of an odd duck.   My suspicion is that a NEX6/7 with either of the 18-200 zooms is hardly any bigger and has significantly better IQ.   But the market for a superzoom may be a completely different crowd so maybe it makes sense that way.

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Brazo Regular Member • Posts: 366
Re: Questions for A 65 owners

OpticsEngineer wrote:

The RX10 goes to 200 mm, so I guess you are thinking of wildlife not too far away.

My A65+Tamron 18-270 is decent. I think there is a lot of quality variation on the 18-270 though. I also have the Tamron 18-270 for a Nikon D7100 and it has quite a bit less resolution at full zoom than my Sony version does.

But I will tell you what is better than my A65+18-270. My NEX7+SEL18-200 lens is quite a bit better. Pair that SEL-18200 up with the newer A6000 with its faster AF and that might be just the thing for you.

To me the RX10 seems like a bit of an odd duck. My suspicion is that a NEX6/7 with either of the 18-200 zooms is hardly any bigger and has significantly better IQ. But the market for a superzoom may be a completely different crowd so maybe it makes sense that way.

Not in my testing, worse iq than a super zoom and about on par with a quality 2.8 zoom.

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