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kitsios_spyros
kitsios_spyros Senior Member • Posts: 2,847
nx300 video

I am Pentax shooter, but I have been closely following Samsung products since NX100. I am very interested in the video capabilities of NX300 with the 18-55 lens. Is there a thread in this forum or a review that summarises everything regarding video?

I am interested in particular about the following:

Is there continious auto focus?

Are there focus tracking abilities with this / other lenses?

Is the focusing of the kit lenses audible in silent enviroments?

Are you satisfied with the IS in video mode?

I believe there is not video-out through HDMI

I believe there is not microphone-in as a connection option.

Is focus peaking available before/during video capture?

And finally, can anyone recomment a NX to K adapter with aperture control for DA lenses?

Thanks in advance!

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ttbek Veteran Member • Posts: 4,869
Re: nx300 video

kitsios_spyros wrote:

I am Pentax shooter, but I have been closely following Samsung products since NX100. I am very interested in the video capabilities of NX300 with the 18-55 lens. Is there a thread in this forum or a review that summarises everything regarding video?

Not sure, I'm a newer member relatively speaking.

I am interested in particular about the following:

Is there continuous auto focus?

Yes, you may also use manual focus.  While in the continuous mode you may also touch the screen to focus on the chosen point.

Are there focus tracking abilities with this / other lenses?

Yes, but not in video mode T.T

Is the focusing of the kit lenses audible in silent enviroments?

Yes, though it's not too bad when setting the mic level to low (can pick hi or low, nothing in between)

Are you satisfied with the IS in video mode?

I don't really feel a need for IS with a 55, but I'm not a big video person, maybe someone else will have a more helpful answer.

I believe there is not video-out through HDMI

Not while shooting, no, I would have liked this feature, also would have liked tethered shooting, but alas...

I believe there is not microphone-in as a connection option.

No standard mic in. Samsung does offer a proprietary mic: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=868416&is=REG&Q=&A=details

Is focus peaking available before/during video capture?

Before, I do not believe it works during capture, unless there are some secret button combos I don't know about or something.  A tip, the 'ok' button activates the focus peaking (when set in menu) when you are using manual focus lenses, but it needs to be pressed for each shot, I don't know of a way to make it do focus peaking constantly for manual focus.  It's not constant with the NX lenses either, but it is activated by turning the focus ring (when in manual mode), so it's pretty much just as good as always.

And finally, can anyone recommend a NX to K adapter with aperture control for DA lenses?

Haven't bought one (since I don't own any K lenses), Samsung offers one that I think is aperture control, but their version is kinda stupidly pricey for an adapter, I'm not really sure why it costs as much as it does.  I do recommend the Fotodiox adapter for NX to FD.  The lenses already have aperture, but the ring that locks in the lens' aperture can be turned more smoothly than the lens' aperture.  This way you can get a smooth gradient between wide open and whatever the lens is set at instead of all the clicks.

Thanks in advance!

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Spyros

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kitsios_spyros
OP kitsios_spyros Senior Member • Posts: 2,847
Re: nx300 video

Thanks a lot ttbek. It helps me a lot!

Since you have used the Fotodiox adapter, are the aperture data transfered to the exif data? And can you tell what aperture you are using, or how many f-stops you have closed it? I have seen on some e-bay photos that there is a ring with "open" and "wide" markings. From your disciption I understand that the aperture progressively closes. But do we know how much and at what actual fstop we stop?

Also, regarding focus peaking, is it available with other manual lenses or other brand AF lenses when used with the adapter, which makes the MF anyhow on NX300? I am thinking of a K-mount Tamron 70-300mm f4-5.6 (AF) and a Pentax K135mm f2.5 (MF).

Oh, and is there any kind of extended zoom feature that uses a crop from the center area of the sensor (instead of digital zoom), like some Panasonic cameras have?

Again, many thanks for taking the time to reply!

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Spyros

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ttbek Veteran Member • Posts: 4,869
Re: nx300 video

kitsios_spyros wrote:

Thanks a lot ttbek. It helps me a lot!

Since you have used the Fotodiox adapter, are the aperture data transfered to the exif data? And can you tell what aperture you are using, or how many f-stops you have closed it? I have seen on some e-bay photos that there is a ring with "open" and "wide" markings. From your disciption I understand that the aperture progressively closes. But do we know how much and at what actual fstop we stop?

All the adapters for NX are physical only, no electrical connection at all, so no exif data (the camera puts down the aperture as 1.0 as a filler number). I was talking about the FD to NX adapter: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=995047&is=REG&Q=&A=details

So, as you can see, no markings, and you couldn't do any markings (except maybe like % or fractional), because the f-stop goes between wide open and your set f-stop on the lens (so this will be changing).  The intention was I think just because it needs to lock in with the old mount, but this was just a bonus use for me.  So, when set at install, wide open, when turned all the way the other direction, you're at the f-stop on the lens.

For the K mount adapters, I think those ones with aperture control turn the aperture of the lens directly, they don't seem to have any markings of their own.  So, I guess you work blind for the lenses that don't have manual aperture of their own, don't really know (don't own the adapter or any K-mount lenses).  Better off than EF lenses anyway, using those on NX you're stuck wide open except for a possible trick of putting the lens on a EOS camera, setting the aperture, then taking off the lens with the camera still on, but I've only heard this, haven't verified it.

Also, regarding focus peaking, is it available with other manual lenses or other brand AF lenses when used with the adapter, which makes the MF anyhow on NX300? I am thinking of a K-mount Tamron 70-300mm f4-5.6 (AF) and a Pentax K135mm f2.5 (MF).

The focus peaking works with everything, the difference is just in how it's activated, by turning the focus ring on NX lenses, by pressing the 'ok' button for anything else.

Oh, and is there any kind of extended zoom feature that uses a crop from the center area of the sensor (instead of digital zoom), like some Panasonic cameras have?

1.2x, 1.4x, 1.7x, or 2x, but here's the downside.  I believe it is only set to work with iFunction lenses, (at least the iFunction menu is the only way I know of to reach this setting).  Maybe not even for all iFunction lenses (I don't know for sure).  I can say that it definitely works with the 18-55 and the 50-200.  The 30mm appears not to have this available as I was saying (30mm is not an iFunction lens).  Also, this does not work in video (T.T, would have been nice since video is only 1080p anyway).  I actually don't find a point to it for anything but video (I guess the Nikon D4 can do it for video?)  I could just crop myself later and as a zoom aid, well there is 5x and 8x focus aid zooming available (shot still is 1x).

Again, many thanks for taking the time to reply!

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Spyros

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kitsios_spyros
OP kitsios_spyros Senior Member • Posts: 2,847
Re: nx300 video

ttbek wrote:

kitsios_spyros wrote:

Thanks a lot ttbek. It helps me a lot!

Since you have used the Fotodiox adapter, are the aperture data transfered to the exif data? And can you tell what aperture you are using, or how many f-stops you have closed it? I have seen on some e-bay photos that there is a ring with "open" and "wide" markings. From your disciption I understand that the aperture progressively closes. But do we know how much and at what actual fstop we stop?

All the adapters for NX are physical only, no electrical connection at all, so no exif data (the camera puts down the aperture as 1.0 as a filler number). I was talking about the FD to NX adapter: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=995047&is=REG&Q=&A=details

So, as you can see, no markings, and you couldn't do any markings (except maybe like % or fractional), because the f-stop goes between wide open and your set f-stop on the lens (so this will be changing). The intention was I think just because it needs to lock in with the old mount, but this was just a bonus use for me. So, when set at install, wide open, when turned all the way the other direction, you're at the f-stop on the lens.

For the K mount adapters, I think those ones with aperture control turn the aperture of the lens directly, they don't seem to have any markings of their own. So, I guess you work blind for the lenses that don't have manual aperture of their own, don't really know (don't own the adapter or any K-mount lenses). Better off than EF lenses anyway, using those on NX you're stuck wide open except for a possible trick of putting the lens on a EOS camera, setting the aperture, then taking off the lens with the camera still on, but I've only heard this, haven't verified it.

ttbek, check the video in this link

http://www.enjoyyourcamera.com/Lens-Mount-Adapter/Adapter-for-Samsung-NX/Kiwifotos-Lens-Mount-Adapter-Pentax-K-Samsung-NX::4845.html?language=en

I've read in the NEX forum that I guy prefers this adapter even with lenses that have aperture ring, as the closing of the aperture is more smooth/ without clicks. This is seen in the above link.

Also, regarding focus peaking, is it available with other manual lenses or other brand AF lenses when used with the adapter, which makes the MF anyhow on NX300? I am thinking of a K-mount Tamron 70-300mm f4-5.6 (AF) and a Pentax K135mm f2.5 (MF).

The focus peaking works with everything, the difference is just in how it's activated, by turning the focus ring on NX lenses, by pressing the 'ok' button for anything else.

Oh, and is there any kind of extended zoom feature that uses a crop from the center area of the sensor (instead of digital zoom), like some Panasonic cameras have?

1.2x, 1.4x, 1.7x, or 2x, but here's the downside. I believe it is only set to work with iFunction lenses, (at least the iFunction menu is the only way I know of to reach this setting). Maybe not even for all iFunction lenses (I don't know for sure). I can say that it definitely works with the 18-55 and the 50-200. The 30mm appears not to have this available as I was saying (30mm is not an iFunction lens). Also, this does not work in video (T.T, would have been nice since video is only 1080p anyway). I actually don't find a point to it for anything but video (I guess the Nikon D4 can do it for video?) I could just crop myself later and as a zoom aid, well there is 5x and 8x focus aid zooming available (shot still is 1x).

I was not clear, but I was refering to the video. So the answer is no.

Again, many thanks for taking the time to reply!

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Kind Regards,
Spyros

BTW, I ordered the NX300 last night. Thanks for the info.

I have posted a question regarding speed boosters /focal reducers for my Pentax lenses on NX300. So, if you know anything about them, please advice.

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Spyros

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ttbek Veteran Member • Posts: 4,869
Re: nx300 video

kitsios_spyros wrote:

ttbek wrote:

kitsios_spyros wrote:

Thanks a lot ttbek. It helps me a lot!

Since you have used the Fotodiox adapter, are the aperture data transfered to the exif data? And can you tell what aperture you are using, or how many f-stops you have closed it? I have seen on some e-bay photos that there is a ring with "open" and "wide" markings. From your disciption I understand that the aperture progressively closes. But do we know how much and at what actual fstop we stop?

All the adapters for NX are physical only, no electrical connection at all, so no exif data (the camera puts down the aperture as 1.0 as a filler number). I was talking about the FD to NX adapter: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=995047&is=REG&Q=&A=details

So, as you can see, no markings, and you couldn't do any markings (except maybe like % or fractional), because the f-stop goes between wide open and your set f-stop on the lens (so this will be changing). The intention was I think just because it needs to lock in with the old mount, but this was just a bonus use for me. So, when set at install, wide open, when turned all the way the other direction, you're at the f-stop on the lens.

For the K mount adapters, I think those ones with aperture control turn the aperture of the lens directly, they don't seem to have any markings of their own. So, I guess you work blind for the lenses that don't have manual aperture of their own, don't really know (don't own the adapter or any K-mount lenses). Better off than EF lenses anyway, using those on NX you're stuck wide open except for a possible trick of putting the lens on a EOS camera, setting the aperture, then taking off the lens with the camera still on, but I've only heard this, haven't verified it.

ttbek, check the video in this link

http://www.enjoyyourcamera.com/Lens-Mount-Adapter/Adapter-for-Samsung-NX/Kiwifotos-Lens-Mount-Adapter-Pentax-K-Samsung-NX::4845.html?language=en

I've read in the NEX forum that I guy prefers this adapter even with lenses that have aperture ring, as the closing of the aperture is more smooth/ without clicks. This is seen in the above link.

Yeah, seems like a similar design choice as with the FD adapter, seems even smoother though.  I think it will work well.

Also, regarding focus peaking, is it available with other manual lenses or other brand AF lenses when used with the adapter, which makes the MF anyhow on NX300? I am thinking of a K-mount Tamron 70-300mm f4-5.6 (AF) and a Pentax K135mm f2.5 (MF).

The focus peaking works with everything, the difference is just in how it's activated, by turning the focus ring on NX lenses, by pressing the 'ok' button for anything else.

Oh, and is there any kind of extended zoom feature that uses a crop from the center area of the sensor (instead of digital zoom), like some Panasonic cameras have?

1.2x, 1.4x, 1.7x, or 2x, but here's the downside. I believe it is only set to work with iFunction lenses, (at least the iFunction menu is the only way I know of to reach this setting). Maybe not even for all iFunction lenses (I don't know for sure). I can say that it definitely works with the 18-55 and the 50-200. The 30mm appears not to have this available as I was saying (30mm is not an iFunction lens). Also, this does not work in video (T.T, would have been nice since video is only 1080p anyway). I actually don't find a point to it for anything but video (I guess the Nikon D4 can do it for video?) I could just crop myself later and as a zoom aid, well there is 5x and 8x focus aid zooming available (shot still is 1x).

I was not clear, but I was refering to the video. So the answer is no.

I thought you might be, but I just figured I would be complete.

Again, many thanks for taking the time to reply!

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Kind Regards,
Spyros

BTW, I ordered the NX300 last night. Thanks for the info.

Glad I could be of help ^_^.

I have posted a question regarding speed boosters /focal reducers for my Pentax lenses on NX300. So, if you know anything about them, please advice.

Unfortunately I do not have any experience with them.

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Kind Regards,
Spyros

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