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shooting video through a viewfinder in a Canon EOS 700D

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dixonchiang New Member • Posts: 2
shooting video through a viewfinder in a Canon EOS 700D

Just got a Canon 700D a couple of weeks ago. I was shooting a video on the beach using the LCD screen but had problems with the sun reflections. Tried to use the viewfinder but could not activate it. Will appreciate any advise to overcome this problem. Thanks

GlovedAssassin Junior Member • Posts: 36
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Unfortunately you cannot use the viewfinder to shoot video. The mirror has to be locked up to allow video recording and this blocks the view from the viewfinder.

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Shade it

You can use a shade to cover the screen, and wear black-coloured clothing.  A viewfinder can only be enabled by installing an external video monitor, because the mirror inside the camera must be raised in order to expose the recording sensor.

OP dixonchiang New Member • Posts: 2
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Thank you all for your advise. I wonder if there is an anti reflective screen protector for the lcd touchscreen. Little has been said about these minus point of the dslr cameras. Regards.

Setter Dog Veteran Member • Posts: 5,768
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dixonchiang wrote:

Little has been said about these minus point of the dslr cameras. Regards.

I made the same discovery about DSLRs when I purchased the Canon SL1. I am still trying to get used to the whole "Live View" thing myself. I like the camera, but don't care for the LCD requirement when shooting video. It works okay indoors, but is hit and miss outdoors.

Sony, Panasonic, and others, use a different system that allows viewfinder video.

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dixonchiang wrote:

Thank you all for your advise. I wonder if there is an anti reflective screen protector for the lcd touchscreen. Little has been said about these minus point of the dslr cameras. Regards.

Yes, "little has been said" about this 'minus point' of the dslr cameras" for a good reason. It's the same reason nobody buys a pickup truck and complains that it doesn't have a locking trunk. It's the same reason you don't buy a microwave oven and then complain that you can't use metal pots and pans in it. All these things are just characteristics of the product's basic design - not 'minus points'. Anyone who uses a DSLR could have told you that an optical viewfinder can't be used when shooting video, but unfortunately you assumed that it could.

You can get shades for the LCD but to be honest if you weren't that familiar with a DSLR to know that it doesn't use the viewfinder for video, quite possibly you didn't need one in the first place. If the viewfinder issue is that much of a problem, you might be better off returning it or swapping off the 700D and buying something with an electronic viewfinder which is designed to do what you really want. Something tells me that you might be a lot happier with a bridge camera or other non-DSLR camera. I hope you get it sorted out.

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dixonchiang wrote:

Thank you all for your advise. I wonder if there is an anti reflective screen protector for the lcd touchscreen. Little has been said about these minus point of the dslr cameras. Regards.

It's not a issue particular to DSLR video.  Neither DSLRs nor regular digital video cameras offer optical viewfinders for video.

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Michael Fryd wrote:

dixonchiang wrote:

Thank you all for your advise. I wonder if there is an anti reflective screen protector for the lcd touchscreen. Little has been said about these minus point of the dslr cameras. Regards.

It's not a issue particular to DSLR video. Neither DSLRs nor regular digital video cameras offer optical viewfinders for video.

I think the OP may have been expecting to flip a switch and turn the OVF into an EVF. Anyhow, their choice of camera was not well thought out or understood.

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dixonchiang wrote:

Thank you all for your advise. I wonder if there is an anti reflective screen protector for the lcd touchscreen. Little has been said about these minus point of the dslr cameras. Regards.

If  you were to understand how an SLR works  you'd realize the optical viewfinder cannot be used when a "live" image is being displayed on the rear LCD.  A little more research on your behalf would have saved you this "problem".

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Setter Dog wrote:

dixonchiang wrote:

Little has been said about these minus point of the dslr cameras. Regards.

I made the same discovery about DSLRs when I purchased the Canon SL1. I am still trying to get used to the whole "Live View" thing myself. I like the camera, but don't care for the LCD requirement when shooting video. It works okay indoors, but is hit and miss outdoors.

Sony, Panasonic, and others, use a different system that allows viewfinder video.

Sony, Panasonic and others make mirrorless cameras, not DSLR's. If you want or prefer an electronic viewfinder (EVF) then one of their cameras is fine. If you need or prefer an optical viewfinder (OVF) then you buy a DSLR. Each has advantages important to different people. Myself, I wouldn't touch an EVF most of the time but that's just me. Knowing the difference, and what you want the camera for, is important to know before laying down several hundred dollars for a camera.

Rick Joz New Member • Posts: 2
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I lost track of the post I was going to refer to in the "business" of joining the forum.  Someone had posted the same question I was going to, i.e., "is it possible to use a viewfinder" to take video with a Canon EOS."   At least one or more of the replies were condescending, rude, snarky and were basically saying the poster was asking a stupid question.  When I joined a minute ago I was told the only rule was "be nice."  Enough said.

Rick Joz New Member • Posts: 2
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This was the same question I was going to ask, i.e., "is it possible to use a viewfinder" to take video with a Canon EOS." At least one or more of the replies were condescending, rude, snarky and were basically saying the poster was asking a stupid question. Although I'm smart enough to realize that if the mirror locks up and is in the way of the viewfinder, this is a problem, but I don't understand why the mirror has to lock up in the first place. And I don't appreciate anyone saying this is a dumb question, akin to wondering why a pickup truck doesn't have a locking trunk (by the way, some DO).

When I joined a minute ago I was told the only rule was "be nice."

Enough said

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Rick Joz wrote:

This was the same question I was going to ask, i.e., "is it possible to use a viewfinder" to take video with a Canon EOS." At least one or more of the replies were condescending, rude, snarky and were basically saying the poster was asking a stupid question. Although I'm smart enough to realize that if the mirror locks up and is in the way of the viewfinder, this is a problem, but I don't understand why the mirror has to lock up in the first place. And I don't appreciate anyone saying this is a dumb question, akin to wondering why a pickup truck doesn't have a locking trunk (by the way, some DO).

When I joined a minute ago I was told the only rule was "be nice."

Enough said

Rick,

Yes, the replies were rude, but you have to realize that you are replying to posts that were made nine years ago.

As far as the mirror locking up, that's just the nature of the beast, I guess. That's just the way the technology works. On DSLR's, video only works in Live View.

One way you can get around it is to shoot remotely using a tablet or smartphone. You can position the camera out in the sun while you go sit or stand in the shade.

That doesn't help a lot though, if you are walking along and taking a video.

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Rick, a video cannot be taken using the optical viewfinder with a DSLR camera (because of the mirror). That's one of the reasons why I bought two mirrorless cameras. Using those mirrorless cameras, I love taking video with the EVF viewfinder because I can see the subject matter without shaking a lot and have good composition. This is especially important when I use my EF-M 55-200mm telephoto lens.

Saying that, I really like using my DSLR cameras too, but I prefer to use the mirrorless cameras when taking video. I have taken video with my Canon Rebel, but on bright sunny days, it's difficult to get good video when the sun is shining on the LCD screen.

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The problem with the mirror and video shooting is this; in normal day-to-day shooting the mirror is down, blocking the sensor - until you press the shutter button. Then the mirror flips up (blocking your view from the viewfinder) and the shutter/sensor takes the photo. Then, the mirror flips down, VF vision is restored, and then the cycle restarts.

Before digital, having this reflex mirror mechanism was the only way the photographer could see exactly the same framing the lens/camera was seeing. The "R" in "DSLR " (of which the Canon 700D is one) stands for "Reflex", referring to the mirror's movement.

Of course, once live-view was introduced, once the on-sensor AF became "good-enough", once electronic viewfinders were made "good enough", the mirror was in many ways made redundant. The mirror is also fairly heavy, hence the rise of the mirrorless-camera .

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Dunlin wrote:

The problem with the mirror and video shooting is this; in normal day-to-day shooting the mirror is down, blocking the sensor - until you press the shutter button. Then the mirror flips up (blocking your view from the viewfinder) and the shutter/sensor takes the photo. Then, the mirror flips down, VF vision is restored, and then the cycle restarts.

Good explanation !

Before digital, having this reflex mirror mechanism was the only way the photographer could see exactly the same framing the lens/camera was seeing. The "R" in "DSLR " (of which the Canon 700D is one) stands for "Reflex", referring to the mirror's movement.

Not as good explanation:

DSLR … D for digital SL for single lens R for presence of the mirror.

There were actually DLR cameras first , DL for having two lenses, one for shooting and one for viewfinder; R for the presence of the mirror (motionless).
As to the vievfinder , it was on the top including the shade and loupe. Funny was, that if the object moves to left to right, you see it reversely.

Of course, once live-view was introduced, once the on-sensor AF became "good-enough", once electronic viewfinders were made "good enough", the mirror was in many ways made redundant. The mirror is also fairly heavy, hence the rise of the mirrorless-camera .

Mirror vs mirrorless is more about the body size containing the same sensor size.

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Dunlin Senior Member • Posts: 2,611
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guinness2 wrote:

Dunlin wrote:

The problem with the mirror and video shooting is this; in normal day-to-day shooting the mirror is down, blocking the sensor - until you press the shutter button. Then the mirror flips up (blocking your view from the viewfinder) and the shutter/sensor takes the photo. Then, the mirror flips down, VF vision is restored, and then the cycle restarts.

Good explanation !

Before digital, having this reflex mirror mechanism was the only way the photographer could see exactly the same framing the lens/camera was seeing. The "R" in "DSLR " (of which the Canon 700D is one) stands for "Reflex", referring to the mirror's movement.

Not as good explanation:

DSLR … D for digital SL for single lens R for presence of the mirror.

There were actually DLR cameras first , DL for having two lenses, one for shooting and one for viewfinder; R for the presence of the mirror (motionless).
As to the vievfinder , it was on the top including the shade and loupe. Funny was, that if the object moves to left to right, you see it reversely.

Really? I'm pretty sure it stands for reflex. That's what I've always been told and read.

Of course, once live-view was introduced, once the on-sensor AF became "good-enough", once electronic viewfinders were made "good enough", the mirror was in many ways made redundant. The mirror is also fairly heavy, hence the rise of the mirrorless-camera .

Mirror vs mirrorless is more about the body size containing the same sensor size.

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Well, mirror or reflex, the same, I mean R has nothing to do with mirror movement, but with the mirror presence.
Ragefinders have no mirror, for example…
The terminology came from film cameras. (for stills, not video)

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guinness2 wrote:

Well, mirror or reflex, the same, I mean R has nothing to do with mirror movement, but with the mirror presence.
Ragefinders have no mirror, for example…
The terminology came from film cameras. (for stills, not video)

There were 35mm SLR cameras that did not have a moving mirror. Instead it had apellicle mirror (partially transparent mirror).   These SLR cameras had optical viewfinders, no viewfinder blackout, and some could take up to 14 frames per second.

These cameras did not have moving mirrors, but were still called “SLR” cameras.  That suggests that the presence of the mirror is the defining feature of a SLR, whether or not the mirror moves.

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