nx30 hype mkii

@Taffy no, I haven't read anything about the NX30 body regards sealing as well  but it leaves room for speculating on the next model. Having said that it means that they will beef up the NX line with upcoming models.

At samsungimaging.com they refer to a new option called i-function+ that should allow to customize the buttons beyond what's currently possible.

compared to nx20 the nx300 added on sensor phase detection for a bit faster af.

so also nx30 uses it. but I mostly agree on you on the first part.

RPywell wrote:

NewForce wrote:

1. For now it ticked all upgrade boxes fo existing NX20 camera users.

I see no reason to tempt me to replace my NX20, basically the same sensor so no noticeable improvement in image quality. Good news for me as I couldn't afford to change camera this year anyway.

Must add - I see touch screen as a negative, not a positive

Have you suffered a recent blow to the head?

It has the Sensor in the NX300 so the noise is going to be better at higher ISO, and built in Phase Detection. The AF alone makes it a good upgrade.

It's not about sensor it really is about body. Some of the body changes, and the addition of a shooting mode dial is really very nice. The NX30 male organ is a meh feature for me, and the improvements to the OS are good. The big one is the Remote viewfinder.. meaning I'll finally have a wireless trigger.

Those features mean that the camera is more useable in many circumstance.

It apparently has a new Battery that is a little larger too... which is annoying.

My only significant complaint... the SD card slot placement makes it harder to make a battery grip for it.

Perhaps a "blow to the head" is needed to see things clearly just joking

Of course different persons could have different priorities. Some features that for one can justify a new purchase, for another one simply cannot. For me, priorities over nx300 are IQ (especially dr and high iso), af speed, buffer depth, processing performance and EVF. Till now, the NX30 for sure ticks just the last box. We'll see if it can tick others.

after trying to control my NX20 by touching on the AMOLD (using the NX300 primarily since its release) I would never say that touchscreens are nonsense 

In agree that the NX20 can still compete when it comes down to the IQ but the NX30 ticks all those boxes for me the previous ones left out especially when the new zooms are showing an improved AF performance the only open item would be the buffer handling (which I believe the first reviews will sure mention)

Upgrading my NX20 is more an issue of affordability as I will have to look more carefully at my available budget this year.

Especially the 16-50 pancake is tempting as travel option with the NX300, in case it delivers a reasonable IQ

RPywell wrote:

Must add - I see touch screen as a negative, not a positive

1. how this will hurt you? If it's there do you need to use it? Simply don't understand negative impact.

2. Every single person I know (incl. me) that tried once touch functionality to set focus at any poijnt itn the screen was deighted. It make countless pictures possible that I would not take otherwise because either there was not time to recompose after acquiring focus with central point or to move focus point with buttons.

I simply don't see how this can bother someone. It's like with camera being able to make movies - should not bother anyone but some still are. I barely understand how you people make it from file to digital not to mention from DSRL to mirrorless (EVF) But in general I agree that having NX20 I'm not sure myself to make move this year. Maybe some Black Friday deal will convince me.

RPywell wrote:

As for touch screen - well, that's just the thin end of the wedge where eventually they remove as many physical buttons/switches as possible to save money.

NX30 has more pchysical controls than NX20, not less. I counted 1 useful wheel and one useless button (wifi). They also removed green button that I used rarely.

arbuz wrote:

.... They also removed green button that I used rarely.

and replaced it with a function "wifi" I hardly ever used

Interesdting to see is if the new i-Function+ settings can overwrite more button function compared to now....

maybe one real good reason to upgrade the NX20 with the NX30 is the placement of the little wheel that changes the diopter setting for the EVF.

In the past both, my NX10/20 as well as my Nikon V1 suffered from changing it when taken out of a tighter messenger bag.

If you carefully look at the NX30 product images you will see where Samsung placed that wheel now... a real smart and welcome improvement

Hint: look at side image with  the tilting EVF

Dave Gibbs wrote:

just curious if to sell my nx300 and just get a nx30 or wait an just buy the lens

It is targeted to those coming from the NX20, that want the enhancements of the NX300 in the form factor of the NX20.

It also one ups the NX300 in features, with a more powerful processor and tilting EVF.  I am hoping the processor upgrade comes with faster image throughput.

I would spend your money on lenses first, unless the SLR style form factor is important to you (primarily the viewfinder).

Eric

Eric, why do you say that it has more powerful processor? To me, it seems exactly the same drime iv engine of nx300. Where did you find the info?

tecnoworld wrote:

Perhaps a "blow to the head" is needed to see things clearly just joking

Of course different persons could have different priorities. Some features that for one can justify a new purchase, for another one simply cannot. For me, priorities over nx300 are IQ (especially dr and high iso), af speed, buffer depth, processing performance and EVF. Till now, the NX30 for sure ticks just the last box. We'll see if it can tick others.

Dude again... stop comparing this to the bloody NX300... this isn't the NX300... this is the NX30... the replacement for the NX20.

The Sensor is perfectly good. The low light performance is exactly what it should be. If I can pump up to ISO 4000 shoot RAW with a fast prime (like any of the NX Primes) you should be able to shoot at 1/60 easily and get a good exposure at in the city at night.

You won't get a good exposure in a poorly lit room. You'll have to bump up to 6400 or higher or get a flash. The NX300 currently has low light performance of the original 5D. To get better low light you need to go to the D610 type camera, I held it the other night with the Nikon 85. It is super light and a pleasure to hold.

The NX400 will be the upgrade to the NX300 and it will likely have an upgraded sensor.

the NX 10/11 and 100 had the same sensor. The NX200 introduced a new Sensor, the NX20 later had a tweaked version. The NX300 introduced a new sensor, the NX30 later had a tweaked version. Thus the NX400 will likely have a new Sensor.

tecnoworld wrote:

Eric, why do you say that it has more powerful processor? To me, it seems exactly the same drime iv engine of nx300. Where did you find the info?

The DPReview Preview, let me pull it up and look again, maybe they were referring to NX20.

The 'guts' of the camera are considerably different, with Samsung leveraging other divisions of the company. The DRIMeIV processor uses a single-core, 800Mhz Cortex-A9 processor, as well as a SGX540 GPU, which are similar to what you'd find inside a lower-end smartphone these days.

Oh, they were comparing to NX20, not NX300, sorry if I got anyone's hopes up.

If it is the same I imagine the buffer is, edit: but that wouldn't exclude a buffer upgrade either.  Have to wait for user reports

Eric

viking79 wrote:

tecnoworld wrote:

Eric, why do you say that it has more powerful processor? To me, it seems exactly the same drime iv engine of nx300. Where did you find the info?

The DPReview Preview, let me pull it up and look again, maybe they were referring to NX20.

The 'guts' of the camera are considerably different, with Samsung leveraging other divisions of the company. The DRIMeIV processor uses a single-core, 800Mhz Cortex-A9 processor, as well as a SGX540 GPU, which are similar to what you'd find inside a lower-end smartphone these days.

Oh, they were comparing to NX20, not NX300, sorry if I got anyone's hopes up.

If it is the same I imagine the buffer is, edit: but that wouldn't exclude a buffer upgrade either. Have to wait for user reports

Eric

The Galaxy NX uses the 1.6ghz 21 gigaflops version, both are the same 4000 series chip which comes in Single Dual and Quad core.. all labeled as 4 So it is possible that the NX30 or has a slightly or significantly updated chip in it. 
The NX30 seems to leverage heavily from the horrid Galaxy NX. I'd be surprised if it didn't have the same basic 1.6ghz Quad core DRIMe IV chipset. I find it odd that is mentions the DRIMeIV as a 800mhz single core processor.