“Fastest Lens In the World” – The Handevision Ibelux 40mm f/0.85

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mailman88
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“Fastest Lens In the World” – The Handevision Ibelux 40mm f/0.85
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There’s a new super-fast prime lens for mirrorless shooters. The Handevision Ibelux 40mm f/0.85 (yeah, you read that right – f/0.85) is the product of a partnership between Chinese manufacturer Shanghai Transvision and German optical design firm, IB/E Optics. The press release calls the Ibelux 40mm f/0.85, “the fastest lens in the world.” There are faster specialized custom lenses but the Ibelux 40mm is nearly a full stop faster than Leica’s revered f/1.0 Noctilux, making it the fastest “serial production” lens available.

Look at the sample images from the below link

http://www.photographyreview.com/reviews/fastest-lens-world-handevision-ibelux-40mm-f0-85?referrer=hpFeed&pos=3#slider-pro-1-5

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RoelHendrickx
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Re: “Fastest Lens In the World” – The Handevision Ibelux 40mm f/0.85

mailman88 wrote:

There’s a new super-fast prime lens for mirrorless shooters. The Handevision Ibelux 40mm f/0.85 (yeah, you read that right – f/0.85) is the product of a partnership between Chinese manufacturer Shanghai Transvision and German optical design firm, IB/E Optics. The press release calls the Ibelux 40mm f/0.85, “the fastest lens in the world.” There are faster specialized custom lenses but the Ibelux 40mm is nearly a full stop faster than Leica’s revered f/1.0 Noctilux, making it the fastest “serial production” lens available.

Look at the sample images from the below link

http://www.photographyreview.com/reviews/fastest-lens-world-handevision-ibelux-40mm-f0-85?referrer=hpFeed&pos=3#slider-pro-1-5

I did read somewhere in that announcement that the sweet spot of the lens would be F5.6.

That does not excite me all that much.

I have some experience with the quality that Voigtländer delivers in their Nokton series, and it is quite good wide open and just plain excellent with minimal stopping down (we are still talking F1.4 or F2 here...).

And with that knowledge, the Nokton 42.5mmF0.95 seems more attractive to me.

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drcPhoto
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With a MSRP of US-$ 2,080. , I suppose I will have to enjoy everyone else's photos with this lens. I would expect the new Panasonic 42.5mm f/1.2 to be less shocking in price plus a whole lot lighter in weight.  For a manual lens in this general focal length, the Voigtlander 42.5mm F0.95 at $999. looks pretty darned attractive.

Dale

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RoelHendrickx
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RoelHendrickx wrote:

mailman88 wrote:

There’s a new super-fast prime lens for mirrorless shooters. The Handevision Ibelux 40mm f/0.85 (yeah, you read that right – f/0.85) is the product of a partnership between Chinese manufacturer Shanghai Transvision and German optical design firm, IB/E Optics. The press release calls the Ibelux 40mm f/0.85, “the fastest lens in the world.” There are faster specialized custom lenses but the Ibelux 40mm is nearly a full stop faster than Leica’s revered f/1.0 Noctilux, making it the fastest “serial production” lens available.

Look at the sample images from the below link

http://www.photographyreview.com/reviews/fastest-lens-world-handevision-ibelux-40mm-f0-85?referrer=hpFeed&pos=3#slider-pro-1-5

I did read somewhere in that announcement that the sweet spot of the lens would be F5.6.

That does not excite me all that much.

I have some experience with the quality that Voigtländer delivers in their Nokton series, and it is quite good wide open and just plain excellent with minimal stopping down (we are still talking F1.4 or F2 here...).

And with that knowledge, the Nokton 42.5mmF0.95 seems more attractive to me.

... but even then, I think I will (for now) just stick with the Olympus 45mm F1.8.

Excellent image quality, fast AF and nice bokeh at that focal length for a fraction of the price.

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jpds Regular Member • Posts: 127
Re: “Fastest Lens In the World” – The Handevision Ibelux 40mm f/0.85
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The claim is not correct. Canon / Kowa / Leitz-Leica have made a 65mm f/0.75
Stanley Kubrick famous candle lit scenes of Barry Lindon were shot with an f/0.7 Zeiss lens

J-P

Jim Salvas
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jpds wrote:

The claim is not correct. Canon / Kowa / Leitz-Leica have made a 65mm f/0.75
Stanley Kubrick famous candle lit scenes of Barry Lindon were shot with an f/0.7 Zeiss lens

J-P

It is a lawyerly claim.

Do they make them now? Are they in "serial production?"

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Jim Salvas
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Re: “Fastest Lens In the World” – The Handevision Ibelux 40mm f/0.85

This lens has a concave front element, giving it strange bokeh in the OOF highlights. I don't think it's bad hokeh. Actually, I don't think there is such a thing as bad bokeh, just different bokeh.

See the sample images here:

http://kipon.com/en/articledetail.asp?id=60

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duartix Veteran Member • Posts: 3,586
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Nice bokeh and specular light rendering.

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Trevor Carpenter
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Can anybody explain to me what the picture of the gulls shows that justifies a £2000 lens.  As someone who photographs birds it seems to me to show nothing that couldn't' be achieved with a £100 lens and probably better

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jpds Regular Member • Posts: 127
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Maybe I speak legalese, but the title is "a marketing pitch". To me the phrase "In the world" defines a geographic perimeter, not a time frame.

And somewhere in the world, there are much faster lenses... http://petapixel.com/2013/08/06/carl-zeiss-super-q-gigantar-40mm-f0-33-the-fastest-lens-ever-made/

J-P

EarthQuake Senior Member • Posts: 2,382
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drcPhoto wrote:

With a MSRP of US-$ 2,080. , I suppose I will have to enjoy everyone else's photos with this lens. I would expect the new Panasonic 42.5mm f/1.2 to be less shocking in price plus a whole lot lighter in weight. For a manual lens in this general focal length, the Voigtlander 42.5mm F0.95 at $999. looks pretty darned attractive.

Dale

Pana 42.5/1.2 is a bit bigger than the 75/1.8, and weighs about 420g w/o caps, 450 with (75 is 300g). Someone has a production sample for review on pentax forums but dpr won't let me me post a link to the thread.

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Trevor Carpenter wrote:

Can anybody explain to me what the picture of the gulls shows that justifies a £2000 lens. As someone who photographs birds it seems to me to show nothing that couldn't' be achieved with a £100 lens and probably better

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What justifies the £2,000 lens is £2,000 and f0.85.

If someone put those demo pictures up and said they were taken with a Panasonic 25mm f1.4 everyone would yawn.

If they were taken with the Panasonic and labelled as with the f0.85 everyone would go 'oh, wow!'.

What those pictures prove is that boring pictures taken on an exciting lens remain boring pictures - and that lenses don't make pictures, photographers do.

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Sean Nelson
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jpds wrote:

The claim is not correct.

That was my first reaction too, but it looks like they weaseled their claim by qualifying it as the fastest "serial production" lens.

Stanley Kubrick famous candle lit scenes of Barry Lindon were shot with an f/0.7 Zeiss lens

That was a purpose-built lens, there were only 10 ever made.

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The only lens I have with a concave front element is the very sharp Zuiko 50f2. Some folks don't care for the bokeh on that lens either, but it has awesome sharpness and contrast.

The contrast looks decent in these photos, not hazy like you sometimes get, but of course you can't tell if PP has been done.

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RoelHendrickx wrote:

mailman88 wrote:

There’s a new super-fast prime lens for mirrorless shooters. The Handevision Ibelux 40mm f/0.85 (yeah, you read that right – f/0.85) is the product of a partnership between Chinese manufacturer Shanghai Transvision and German optical design firm, IB/E Optics. The press release calls the Ibelux 40mm f/0.85, “the fastest lens in the world.” There are faster specialized custom lenses but the Ibelux 40mm is nearly a full stop faster than Leica’s revered f/1.0 Noctilux, making it the fastest “serial production” lens available.

Look at the sample images from the below link

http://www.photographyreview.com/reviews/fastest-lens-world-handevision-ibelux-40mm-f0-85?referrer=hpFeed&pos=3#slider-pro-1-5

I did read somewhere in that announcement that the sweet spot of the lens would be F5.6.

That does not excite me all that much.

I have some experience with the quality that Voigtländer delivers in their Nokton series, and it is quite good wide open and just plain excellent with minimal stopping down (we are still talking F1.4 or F2 here...).

And with that knowledge, the Nokton 42.5mmF0.95 seems more attractive to me.

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I agree with Roel, wouldn't trade my Nokton 42.5 for this. Even wide open at f.95 it's pretty sharp, but then stopping it down to 1.4 or 2 and it's tack sharp all the way across.

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Trevor Carpenter wrote:

Can anybody explain to me what the picture of the gulls shows that justifies a £2000 lens. As someone who photographs birds it seems to me to show nothing that couldn't' be achieved with a £100 lens and probably better

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And its taken with a NEX-7 !! A little embarrassing Trev. Mind you how many BIF's do we take with a 40mm fixed lens. Its not a lens I would be even thinking about.

All the best Trev and hope you and the family had a good one on Christmas.

Danny.

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David Kieltyka
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I have no need or desire for this lens on m43 cameras—the Voigtländer 42.5mm fits that bill nicely—but a Fuji X mount version? Oh yeah! 40mm is a long-ish "normal" focal length on APS-C...this lens would function pretty much like the 58mm f/1.2 Noct-Nikkor on a 35mm format camera. Right up my alley.

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Pic Man Senior Member • Posts: 1,310
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EarthQuake wrote:

drcPhoto wrote:

With a MSRP of US-$ 2,080. , I suppose I will have to enjoy everyone else's photos with this lens. I would expect the new Panasonic 42.5mm f/1.2 to be less shocking in price plus a whole lot lighter in weight. For a manual lens in this general focal length, the Voigtlander 42.5mm F0.95 at $999. looks pretty darned attractive.

Dale

Pana 42.5/1.2 is a bit bigger than the 75/1.8, and weighs about 420g w/o caps, 450 with (75 is 300g). Someone has a production sample for review on pentax forums but dpr won't let me me post a link to the thread.

It's not surprising the pan 42.5 1.2 is bigger and heavier than the 75 as it has more glass + OIS. The manual focus lenses from nokton and this new one are likely to be heavier again due to the all metal construction and extra speed (more glass).

brian Senior Member • Posts: 1,195
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jpds wrote:

The claim is not correct. Canon / Kowa / Leitz-Leica have made a 65mm f/0.75
Stanley Kubrick famous candle lit scenes of Barry Lindon were shot with an f/0.7 Zeiss lens

J-P

Agreed. Plus, you get as fast as f/0.74 (and much better sharpness) with the new 0.58x Speed Booster http://www.eoshd.com/content/11620/metabones-speed-booster-blackmagic-cameras-bmcc-bmpcc .

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Re: “Fastest Lens In the World” – The Handevision Ibelux 40mm f/0.85

And somewhere in the world, there are much faster lenses... http://petapixel.com/2013/08/06/carl-zeiss-super-q-gigantar-40mm-f0-33-the-fastest-lens-ever-made/

J-P

From the article - "...photographers became fixated on the speed of lenses on paper rather than their performance in real world situations."

As much as we think things change the ore they stay the same.  Substitute speed of lenses to sensor size, megapixels, focus points, etc...

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