X-E2 - Sensor Quality Control ??

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Tony Bonanno Contributing Member • Posts: 839
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Just a heads up. I have received two X-E2 "new" bodies that had defective sensors. Both were received from Amazon. Both had what first appeared to be "dust bunnies", but after cleaning and closer inspection, the spots appear to be "embedded" in the sensor. One of the two bodies also had a scuffed/scratched area in upper right corner of the frame resulting in a very visible black mark in all files, regardless of aperture. I also own (or have owned) an X100, X-Pro1, X-E1, and X-100s and have not seen this problem before. Have a third X-E2 on order (from different vendor). And of course, I had just sold my trusty X-E1 (with a perfect sensor) :-(.

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Red5TX
Red5TX Senior Member • Posts: 1,586
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That stinks, man.  Hope you get this sorted out.  If the X-E2s continue to come in bad, you can always buy a used X-E1 body for a great price!

BillyInya
BillyInya Senior Member • Posts: 1,453
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Tony Bonanno wrote:

Just a heads up. I have received two X-E2 "new" bodies that had defective sensors. Both were received from Amazon. Both had what first appeared to be "dust bunnies", but after cleaning and closer inspection, the spots appear to be "embedded" in the sensor. One of the two bodies also had a scuffed/scratched area in upper right corner of the frame resulting in a very visible black mark in all files, regardless of aperture. I also own (or have owned) an X100, X-Pro1, X-E1, and X-100s and have not seen this problem before. Have a third X-E2 on order (from different vendor). And of course, I had just sold my trusty X-E1 (with a perfect sensor) :-(.

Only speculation on my part but the issue could very easily be with one of the extra two physical elements in front of the sensor that are not there with the X-E1.

The X-E1 is sharper than the X-E2, as would anything be with less elements in front of its photosites. If people disagree then they need to argue the point with the laws of physics.

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Tony Bonanno OP Contributing Member • Posts: 839
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BillyInya wrote:

Tony Bonanno wrote:

Just a heads up. I have received two X-E2 "new" bodies that had defective sensors. Both were received from Amazon. Both had what first appeared to be "dust bunnies", but after cleaning and closer inspection, the spots appear to be "embedded" in the sensor. One of the two bodies also had a scuffed/scratched area in upper right corner of the frame resulting in a very visible black mark in all files, regardless of aperture. I also own (or have owned) an X100, X-Pro1, X-E1, and X-100s and have not seen this problem before. Have a third X-E2 on order (from different vendor). And of course, I had just sold my trusty X-E1 (with a perfect sensor) :-(.

Only speculation on my part but the issue could very easily be with one of the extra two physical elements in front of the sensor that are not there with the X-E1.

The X-E1 is sharper than the X-E2, as would anything be with less elements in front of its photosites. If people disagree then they need to argue the point with the laws of physics.

Interesting thought Billy.  I also wondered if there was something about the assembly of the new sensor that might introduce a greater risk of problems.  I couldn't believe I received two bad samples in a row !  I haven't heard of anyone else having problems though ??  Hopefully the next sample will be OK.  Should have it in a couple of days.

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Tony Bonanno OP Contributing Member • Posts: 839
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Checked into the Fujix-Forum and appears that others are also having X-E2 sensor issues.

http://www.fujix-forum.com/index.php/topic/15671-anyone-else-had-dust-on-sensor-issues-with-a-new-x-e2/?p=167836

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flbrit Veteran Member • Posts: 3,683
My X-E2 arrive 4 days ago and does not have this issue.....

Took several exposures at f16 and viewed at 100 200 400% and was good to go.

Hope you replacement works out ok for you.

Brian

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Tony Bonanno OP Contributing Member • Posts: 839
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That's great news Brian !!  I'm keeping my fingers crossed !

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KennyXYZ Regular Member • Posts: 266
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flbrit wrote:

Took several exposures at f16 and viewed at 100 200 400% and was good to go.

Hope you replacement works out ok for you.

Brian

Ditto for me.

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Zardoz Senior Member • Posts: 1,249
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BillyInya wrote:

Only speculation on my part but the issue could very easily be with one of the extra two physical elements in front of the sensor that are not there with the X-E1.

The X-E1 is sharper than the X-E2, as would anything be with less elements in front of its photosites. If people disagree then they need to argue the point with the laws of physics.

I don't get it. What do you have to gain by spreading nasty false rumors about the X-E2?

Sal Baker Veteran Member • Posts: 9,594
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Just received my X-E2 and no problems here either.  Trouble Seems to come in pairs.  I had 2 Sigma 30mm 1.4 primes that both had to be returned to B&H.  The third was stellar.  Hang in there.

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Dresdenboy Regular Member • Posts: 377
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Tony Bonanno wrote:

Just a heads up. I have received two X-E2 "new" bodies that had defective sensors. Both were received from Amazon.

Can you make sure that those cameras weren't returned by former buyers? Amazon and or Fujifilm have their own ways to manage returned ware.

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BigJ2013 New Member • Posts: 14
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Unrelated to the X-E2, one of  my X-E1's had a cluster of blown pixel visible when shadows were pushed. Fuji Canada replaced the camera without any fuss. Just thought I would share.

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Hopefully it's just a batch, and not a problem with the design (ala D600).

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Just tested and inspected my X-E2 sensor - no problems to report here either.

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bowportes Senior Member • Posts: 2,802
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BillyInya wrote:

Tony Bonanno wrote:

Just a heads up. I have received two X-E2 "new" bodies that had defective sensors. Both were received from Amazon. Both had what first appeared to be "dust bunnies", but after cleaning and closer inspection, the spots appear to be "embedded" in the sensor. One of the two bodies also had a scuffed/scratched area in upper right corner of the frame resulting in a very visible black mark in all files, regardless of aperture. I also own (or have owned) an X100, X-Pro1, X-E1, and X-100s and have not seen this problem before. Have a third X-E2 on order (from different vendor). And of course, I had just sold my trusty X-E1 (with a perfect sensor) :-(.

Only speculation on my part but the issue could very easily be with one of the extra two physical elements in front of the sensor that are not there with the X-E1.

The X-E1 is sharper than the X-E2, as would anything be with less elements in front of its photosites. If people disagree then they need to argue the point with the laws of physics.

By your logic, the greater the number of elements in the lens, the less sharp the image.

Such things don't need to be argued based upon laws. They can be demonstrated -- or not, as in your case -- with evidence.

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Zardoz
Zardoz Senior Member • Posts: 1,249
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That's why I love the "shoot without lens" option in the menus.  You wouldn't believe the sharpness.

A little birdy also told me that the X-Pro1 has a sharper sensor than the X-E1.  Hand picked by virgin Fuji elves.  Why else would they call it the Pro model?

BillyInya
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bowportes wrote:

BillyInya wrote:

Tony Bonanno wrote:

Just a heads up. I have received two X-E2 "new" bodies that had defective sensors. Both were received from Amazon. Both had what first appeared to be "dust bunnies", but after cleaning and closer inspection, the spots appear to be "embedded" in the sensor. One of the two bodies also had a scuffed/scratched area in upper right corner of the frame resulting in a very visible black mark in all files, regardless of aperture. I also own (or have owned) an X100, X-Pro1, X-E1, and X-100s and have not seen this problem before. Have a third X-E2 on order (from different vendor). And of course, I had just sold my trusty X-E1 (with a perfect sensor) :-(.

Only speculation on my part but the issue could very easily be with one of the extra two physical elements in front of the sensor that are not there with the X-E1.

The X-E1 is sharper than the X-E2, as would anything be with less elements in front of its photosites. If people disagree then they need to argue the point with the laws of physics.

By your logic, the greater the number of elements in the lens, the less sharp the image.

Such things don't need to be argued based upon laws. They can be demonstrated -- or not, as in your case -- with evidence.

The less number of elements the light has to pass through the better the quality/integrity of the light. I'm not wanting to conduct a lengthy online argument over this with the people who don't believe it. If you don't believe this then that's fine.

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Corwin Lee Forum Member • Posts: 66
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Can you give an example to prove your logic?

Example: Most old lens are have very less element but new lens have more element. so you mean the old lens suppose to be sharper than new lens?

Example: A person with near sighter will only see thing clearer and sharper with an additional element (which is their glasses) This example alone will prove your say is wrong.

Laws of physics say that quantity of element can reduce quantity of light but it is not sharpness.

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Tony Bonanno OP Contributing Member • Posts: 839
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Hundminen wrote:

Just tested and inspected my X-E2 sensor - no problems to report here either.

Glad to hear that folks are not seeing the issue.  I have my third X-E2 arriving tomorrow.  Hope it is good.  My "x" lenses are getting lonely without a body :-).

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noyo Contributing Member • Posts: 762
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Plus lenses with 'coatings' are sharper, with less glare/flare than those without. Odd that, isn't it?
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