E-M1 is not a m4/3, it is a LM4/3 (Large Micro Four Thirds)!

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photo perzon
photo perzon Veteran Member • Posts: 4,249
E-M1 is not a m4/3, it is a LM4/3 (Large Micro Four Thirds)!
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It is larger than several DSLRs. And heavier.

The birth of m4/3 from Four Thirds was motivated by size.

The call was "my DSLR was dusty and now I carry my m4/3."

Well what now? My E-M1 will be dusty? Cause those DSLRs gathering dust, (like my D7100) had features.

Cameras have 4 pocketable ranges:

1) iPhone portability, or Canon S110

2) Big pocket/jacket like Pana GM1, Oly PM2, PL5 with pancake

3) Large jacket/small camera case or purse like GX7, OMD with small prime

4) Honest camera case like E-M1, Nikon D3200

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Jon Ragnarsson
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If only we could choose between different cameras based on what we wanted...

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agentul
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if only there was a way to compare camera sizes (mass, volume, dimensions) before buying them, this kind of thing wouldn't happen. these dark ages of information we're living in sure make everything hard to see until it's too late.

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Rockaw Junior Member • Posts: 33
Re: E-M1 is not a m4/3, it is a LM4/3 (Large Micro Four Thirds)!
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cainn24 Senior Member • Posts: 4,890
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Rockaw wrote:

http://camerasize.com

I think he was being sarcastic.  My sarcasm detector was certainly making some noise anyway,

Art_P
Art_P Veteran Member • Posts: 9,870
m43 is not a size, it's a mount
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It's a system.  The E-M1 still uses the same lenses as any other micro 4/3 camera.  And it happens to not be the largest m43 body. (look to the GH3 for that title)

Of course, if you find the camera too big for your taste, there are plenty of other options within the system.

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s_grins
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I believe that definition of M43 is Micro 43 because of lens mount, and it has nothing to do with body size or weight.

But I do not mind if you want to rename and re-paint you camera, if it makes a difference to you

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Russ Houston
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You make a good point.  I originally bought the E-P1 as a sort of "super P&S" and with a pancake lens it fits in a large pocket.  However, the IQ wasn't quite as good as my dSLR so I kept both.  When the E-M5 came out, IQ finally satisfied me enough that I gave up my dSLR gear.  However, even though it's a smaller overall system, it's still a little larger than the E-P1 thanks to the faux mirror hump.  I think I may eventually swap out my E-P1 for an E-P5 so I get the latest advantages but in the smaller footprint.

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RealPancho
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agentul wrote:

if only there was a way to compare camera sizes (mass, volume, dimensions) before buying them, this kind of thing wouldn't happen. these dark ages of information

LOL!

we're living in sure make everything hard to see until it's too late.

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It's the smallest PRO body available...excellent ergonomics...blazing fast...beautiful jpegs...and 12-40 is excellent...sharp as a tack...

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DLBlack Forum Pro • Posts: 11,913
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Choice is a very good thing.  m4/3 is the lens mount.  So with this lens mount we gave camera size and body shape from the small, faux rangefinder style GM1 with very little user controls to the moderate size faux slr style GH3 with numerous direct user controls.  All this choice is a good thing.

Now the E-M5 and the E-M1 are bsically the same size if you dont take into account the wonderful grip on the E-M1.  Both will fit in the same space.  I know this because I have both.

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CharlesTokyo Contributing Member • Posts: 705
Re: E-M1 is not a m4/3, it is a LM4/3 (Large Micro Four Thirds)!

photo perzon wrote:

Cameras have 4 pocketable ranges:

1) iPhone portability, or Canon S110

2) Big pocket/jacket like Pana GM1, Oly PM2, PL5 with pancake

3) Large jacket/small camera case or purse like GX7, OMD with small prime

4) Honest camera case like E-M1, Nikon D3200

I think you are confused. It's just a name of the system.

Anyway, I shorten your list. Cameras that fit in my jeans pocket and those that don't. The E-M1 is hardly larger than the E-M5 once you put a lens on, even the smallest prime sticks out as far as the grip.  Choice is good.

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G1Shooter Contributing Member • Posts: 621
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Before I ordered my EM-1 (it will be here tomorrow) I had the chance to put one side by side with my GH2. They were roughly the same height and width, but the GH2 fatter (depth). But it was clear that the EM-1 weighed more. No micrometers or scales here, just a side by side comparison.

After seeing an EM-5, I was afraid the EM-1 would be too small. I am happy that it is roughly the same size as my GH2, and so I ordered it.

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Olymore
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The E-M1 (and GH3) are smaller than any equivalent dSLR.

That is a high end weather sealed, fast frame rate, rugged camera.

Comparing it with  an entry level dSLR is not comparing like with like.

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Jolly Oly Contributing Member • Posts: 978
FYI m4/3 is not a camera name
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it is a mount which contains a system of lenses and cameras, from Panasonic GM1 to Olympus EM1 (or GH3), and from tiny pancake Panasonic 12-32mm to (now fully supported) big 4/3 Zuiko 90-250mm zooms.

Is there any other system with that much of choice ? Is that good or bad ?

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tgutgu Veteran Member • Posts: 3,636
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photo perzon wrote:

It is larger than several DSLRs. And heavier.

Which ones? I could only think of the Canon EOS 100D and the E-M1 is still less thick. Together with comparable lenses even the 100D is a larger package.

The birth of m4/3 from Four Thirds was motivated by size.

So.? The E-M1 fills perfectly the size advantage. It is the smallest high quality camera with interchangeable lenses.

The call was "my DSLR was dusty and now I carry my m4/3."

Nobody called this. The purpose of m4/3 is - except size and weight - to utilize live view in the most perfect way. The E-M1 fulfills this with its best of class EVF.

Well what now? My E-M1 will be dusty? Cause those DSLRs gathering dust, (like my D7100) had features.

Nonsense.

Cameras have 4 pocketable ranges:

Not everyone (I would say a minority) wants a pocketable camera as the main photographic tool. With m4/3 you have the choices between different body concepts and sizes.

1) iPhone portability, or Canon S110

2) Big pocket/jacket like Pana GM1, Oly PM2, PL5 with pancake

3) Large jacket/small camera case or purse like GX7, OMD with small prime

4) Honest camera case like E-M1, Nikon D3200

The E-M1 is to me the sweet spot regarding size,weight, and ergonomics for a system camera. Currently, there is nothing better available in this regard.

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KwhyChang Veteran Member • Posts: 3,529
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Size is a fairly relative term, especially considering the range in sizes of people's hands.

The E-M1 is definitely a standout camera in µ4/3 right now and it gets glowing reviews almost everywhere.

As others pointed out it's good to have lots of choice. Camera selection is fairly personal.

The main thing is to be out there taking pictures and enjoying the art.

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murfthesurf Contributing Member • Posts: 634
Body size doesn't tell the whole story
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If one were considering moving from APS-C or FF to m4/3 to get a more compact package (as I was), the body is only one piece of the package. The lenses have a lot to do with overall kit size. There are plenty small APS-C DSLR bodies and even small FF mirrorless bodies out there, but how big of a lens do you need in order to gather enough light for a FF sensor?

I started with an E-PM1 and Panny 14-42 PZ pancake zoom for a pocketable alternative to my Canon 40D kit and loved it. I have since purchased an E-M5, 45 f/1.8, 17 f/1.8, and soon (Christmas I hope) Sigma 30 f/2.8. I consider this a VERY compact outfit when compared to the 40D, or even my wife's old 400D rebel when you look at the size of the lenses you need for those cameras.

The E-M1 is a little bigger than the E-M5, but I still consider it pretty compact when you look at the entire package.

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Calexico78 Junior Member • Posts: 44
Re: E-M1 is not a m4/3, it is a LM4/3 (Large Micro Four Thirds)!

photo perzon wrote:

It is larger than several DSLRs. And heavier.

The birth of m4/3 from Four Thirds was motivated by size.

The call was "my DSLR was dusty and now I carry my m4/3."

Well what now? My E-M1 will be dusty? Cause those DSLRs gathering dust, (like my D7100) had features.

Cameras have 4 pocketable ranges:

1) iPhone portability, or Canon S110

2) Big pocket/jacket like Pana GM1, Oly PM2, PL5 with pancake

3) Large jacket/small camera case or purse like GX7, OMD with small prime

4) Honest camera case like E-M1, Nikon D3200

Can you elaborate on your theory please? I can't wait for more interesting facts about the LM4/3!!

photobeans Regular Member • Posts: 165
This post is pointless.
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Do you realize Olympus made it larger ON PURPOSE? This is what PROs demanded. Larger bodies with large grip with more buttons so it's easier for them to use. Whereas, DSLRs are naturally large due to the legacy designs. There are plenty of other small bodied m43 cameras with viewfinders if you are interested in them.

photo perzon wrote:

It is larger than several DSLRs. And heavier.

The birth of m4/3 from Four Thirds was motivated by size.

The call was "my DSLR was dusty and now I carry my m4/3."

Well what now? My E-M1 will be dusty? Cause those DSLRs gathering dust, (like my D7100) had features.

Cameras have 4 pocketable ranges:

1) iPhone portability, or Canon S110

2) Big pocket/jacket like Pana GM1, Oly PM2, PL5 with pancake

3) Large jacket/small camera case or purse like GX7, OMD with small prime

4) Honest camera case like E-M1, Nikon D3200

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