Not again... :-x

northlondon43 wrote:

To me there's a difference between being unhappy with a particular camera or lens and being dissatisfied with the whole range. As I think I said in a thread a few months ago the Samsung range is an excellent overall product for amateur/hobby photographers and should be viewed in that way. Yes there are good and bad points in comparison to other CSC makes but hey I wouldn't swap unless I won the lottery

I have no objections to the forum being a place to let off steam but it can be a bit tedious to see the same complaints in different threads over and over again.... a bit like this

Does that answer your question Kenny?

Yes, I'm 101% agreed with what you've said Adrian.

All brand cameras including Phase One, Hasselblad, Leics, Canon and Nikon has pros & cons. In my last more than 35 years of photography experience, there's no one single exception to this logic.

Until today, after more than 100 years of R&D, field and space usage, Optic system still not perfect, just like everything else on Planet Earth including human.

Letting off a steam, frustration and complaint is perfectly ok by human standard. Bashing a particular model in a brand is all different story.

tecnoworld wrote:

If I were as 'dissatisfied' as you think I am, I wouldn't be advising the nx300 as a very good camera for the money. And I would't own three generations of nx cameras and many nx lenses.

I don't think it's bad to hope that future models are even better (and not worse) and more in line with how the competitors are doing.

It seems odder to me, on the contrary, being over-enthusiast as somebody seems to be, without even considering other options.

Anyway I hope there is still freedom of speech and dictatorship is not ywet the form of control over here

Btw, I use to express my opinions with calm and w/o offending anyone. I use to link references supporting my claims, and I go technically deep in my opinions. So if you don't like them, please don't read them. In your post here you just complain, w/o bringing evidences of 'samsung' superiority other than...'you like it so much and totally'.

Haha, no battle for me I'm a pacifist. I just wanted to clarify my position. I'm all but an hater. I love technology and photography, and I'm very interested in the global offering and competing products.

Since your message are for me, it will be more appropriate for me to response to you.

The problem here is not how you have praised NX300 or how many NX lenses you've owned here. It's about the "unknown reason" behind your sudden abnormal behavior go insanely against Galaxy NX Camera and Samsung in the past many weeks.

"Freedom of speech with a control" are the right words you should talk about and it is easily & widely acceptable by all. There are these good things on Planet Earth for human being that call loving, caring, self control and rational behavior. On top of that there are social measurements, legal system and lastly the law enforcement organization in place to take care and achieve a more civilization place for most people to stay in calm and peaceful. Put it in simple word, it's about Control, including speeches.

Whatever "link references" you've used to support your multiple claim, whatever your "read technically deep", and lastly "your position" is not important all. They are not necessary to be accept by others, nor does anyone have to swallow and agree to what you've multiple speeches or claiming.

If you don't like a particular camera or brand, you are a free man to move on to whatever you like. Telling others what are suppose to be in place is not your lawful duty. Bringing all your angers, or go vengeance against others does not bring any good, or bring any happiness to yourself.

I've see worst people than you so you're definitely not qualify as a hater. Whether you qualify as a pacifist or not, only yourself can tell.

Ask yourself a question, done all the evilness, violents in the week days, and confess to the God by the weekend in a church, does that make 1 person a pacifist/peace believer?

Lastly, about the way you have with NX300, I seeing there's a goodness in you. It's you and only you can to bring it back again. Take care, my lost friend.

jonathanj wrote:

It's a gear forum, I don't think it's unreasonable to complain about gear. Also, everyone on this forum who complains about Samsung's strategy (including myself) also uses other samsung equipment and praises the good points - I don't think anyone on this forum is trolling for the sake of it.

That said, it's remarkable how negative the samsung forum gets compared with, say, the Nikon 1 forum where there is also no corporate strategy, unpopular cameras, and missing features galore. I try to do by bit here by posting photos as well as complaining

And also, would you prefer to return to the days of snake_b? Online forums often go in cycles, I don't think this is a particular low point...

No, complaints is not unreasonable. Being unreasonable it is something different. Also, it's not about trolling problem here. It's about bashing a particular camera model and brand.

I saw worst forum, so I don't think it's remarkable negative in Samsung forum at the moment. It's only a small bunch of people struggle in their own dead end. But like the saying from "rockstar" Jeff Goldblum, "Life finds a Way".

What I'm trying to say was, there's always a way out even someone coming into a dead end, or was burnt/offended badly by someone who's owning the Galaxy NX Camera.

Everybody come here to read something beneficial to his/her photography. If anyone can't do it, wasn't it getting a life somewhere else will be better for yourself and all?

Btw, who's snake_b?

tecnoworld wrote:

You speak as if samsung were a religion to you, and I won't argue with you anymore. So this is my last message directed to you.

That's Great. Thank you very much.

Btw, my religion and believing is not you or Samsung, it's God.

Where are the 'many' posts I wrote 'against' samsung? Not a single one, in my opinion.

I don't like the idea behing the galaxy nx. But I was never rude expressing this feeling and I simply put into evidence how bad, imo, some strategical decisions were for samsung. That's in the form of an advice, as if samsung were a 'friend' of mine, to which I'd care to talk, to let him know that, imo, he's going the bad route.

Please go back and read your own many & plenty disrespect to others replies.

As others said, this is a gear forum, where ppl should talk about gear, both technically and practically. It's not a fansite.

You are correct. It's a gear forum, not your Galaxy NX are very bad and Samsung not doing your thing forum.

jonathanj wrote:

I see what you're saying and I agree. I'm just a bit more sympathetic because I also dislike the galaxy nx, I just don't say so so often

If you weren't here when snake_b was on the forum, consider yourself lucky... he did occasionally make a good point but also maintained a constant stream of vitriol directed at samsung that would derail almost every conversation posted. Anyway, enough of the moaning!

Thanks for your understanding and the info. Think I'm indeed lucky not to witness bad situation in Samsung Talk. Ashes to ashes dust to dust, hopefully we don't have to go another round of chaos again.

I still see some goodness in someone. But I just don't understand why can a person have a sudden changed in behavior. Anyway I'm not a Psychiatrist, so am not good enough to provide a better help to other.

northlondon43 wrote:

Mr K please note.... daffodils not swords comrade

Adrian

Mr. A, Who's he/she then?