The same painting...which tone do you prefer please

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RayGuselli
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The same painting...which tone do you prefer please
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Hi,
Been working on this painting for a while...finally finished.....and wondered which toneing you prefer please...
Thanks
Ray

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RayGuselli wrote:

Hi,
Been working on this painting for a while...finally finished.....and wondered which toneing you prefer please...
Thanks
Ray

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Hi Ray, wonderful smudge!

Strangely enough i like the first one. Although it doesn't focus entirely on the subject, it gives a sense of depth.

RayGuselli
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Toermalijn wrote:

RayGuselli wrote:

Hi,
Been working on this painting for a while...finally finished.....and wondered which toneing you prefer please...
Thanks
Ray

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Hi Ray, wonderful smudge!

Strangely enough i like the first one. Although it doesn't focus entirely on the subject, it gives a sense of depth.

Thanks Toermalijn.......leaning that way myself.....good to have your opinion....
Lot of hours in this one as I wanted to retain all the detail......
Thanks for looking...
Best wishes
Ray

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Michael Edward Rudge Veteran Member • Posts: 7,026
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WOW , was my first  impression, both are outstanding, and the work load must have been overwhelming, you are a grand master in this form.

I would chose the first one , as there is slightly more content, but some would chose the latter , Less is more , as they would say, but what a stunning image .

Thank you for showing them to us .

Michael North Wales

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PhilM oz Senior Member • Posts: 1,275
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Beautiful job on both.

Personally I prefer the 2nd.

The background is a little distracting in the 1st, whereas the 2nd draws you to the central figure.

I also find the skin tone a little cold in the 1st image (on my monitors).

Phil.

tony brown Veteran Member • Posts: 4,010
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Nice job as usual, Ray, but the skin looks too yellow on the second version to me (calibrated monitor).

Perhaps just an small overall colour shift on the second, if that's the one you prefer?

Cheers, Tony.

Fred T Regular Member • Posts: 227
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Definitely the first. More live and naturalness and more nuance.

Very beautiful.

Toermalijn
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Re: The same painting...which tone do you prefer please

RayGuselli wrote:

Toermalijn wrote:

RayGuselli wrote:

Hi,
Been working on this painting for a while...finally finished.....and wondered which toneing you prefer please...
Thanks
Ray

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Hi Ray, wonderful smudge!

Strangely enough i like the first one. Although it doesn't focus entirely on the subject, it gives a sense of depth.

Thanks Toermalijn.......leaning that way myself.....good to have your opinion....
Lot of hours in this one as I wanted to retain all the detail......
Thanks for looking...
Best wishes
Ray

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Looking at the image again, i have to say this is defenately one of your best!

tony brown Veteran Member • Posts: 4,010
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tony brown wrote:

Nice job as usual, Ray, but the skin looks too yellow on the second version to me (calibrated monitor).

Perhaps just an small overall colour shift on the second, if that's the one you prefer?

Cheers, Tony.

As a follow-on; here's your 2nd version to which I have restored a little more blood to the face and slightly de-saturated her left hand and reduced its contrast a little. The hand was a little distracting with more colour and contrast.

This reminds me of the time I retouched the Mona Lisa in the Louvre by giving her more of a smile. It wasn't well received! They deported me along with my box of crayons.

Version offered in good faith, in answer to your question and not as a criticism. You Da Man, Ray!

Cheers, Tony.

Patsy Murphy Senior Member • Posts: 2,427
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I love them both Ray , although I have a slight preference for the 2nd one now since Tony added a little blood LoL.

Regards Patsym

ArtMar Regular Member • Posts: 488
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Great job Ray! I much prefer number 2 -- on my (calibrated) monitor, her face is overly red in number 1. Even number 2 looks a bit cool to me -- just to give you an idea of what I'm seeing, the version below warms her face up a bit, and reduces the contrast a little (totally subjective of course).

Best,

Art

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RayGuselli
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My thanks to all...so much appreciated...
Tony and Art....you have now given me the idea to blend/mix or adjust again the colours etc...
This has been really interesting for me to see how others view BUT...most importantly, has perhaps shown the need for a properly calibrated monitor...which I do not have...
Very grateful for your help and feedback....
Best wishes and thank you all...
Ray

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Allen Gerdes Veteran Member • Posts: 5,606
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Excellent, Ray. Here is how I would prefer it, by reducing the reds and yellows and adding a vignette (places even more emphasis on the beautiful woman), but I fully understand that it is merely a matter of personal taste:

Regards....Allen

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Wow, this one is special Ray ! I much prefer no 2 for its softer look. Cheers !

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Many thanks for replying much appreciated...
And that is IT Allen...
I really like what you have done...that works so well...really appreciated...
Really pleased with your take...
Best wishes as always
Ray

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Jack Sofield Senior Member • Posts: 2,301
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Like other, both are very good. However, the second one has more of the old masters classical look. If that is what you tried to achieve then no. 2 is the ticket.

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Ralph Ramirez Veteran Member • Posts: 7,047
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I agree with Jack's comments.........Ralph

mikes
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If it were mine, I would "lean" towards the first one, but not entirely. There is so much more to it than just a preference as you know. The mood you are trying to portray, the lighting that this smudge might be placed under, the clients perceptions, etc., etc.. Even your monitor versus mine, the printer that prints it, and the quality of the canvas it is printed on are all variables.

My suggestion is to print on the target media and decide from there.

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Outstanding!!! n/t

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charleyd Senior Member • Posts: 1,064
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Prefer bottom one Ray. Like the more subtle tones.

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