Gary Friedman and the RX10

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Digital Nigel Veteran Member • Posts: 4,416
Gary Friedman and the RX10
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Many RX100 users here (like me) rate Gary Friedman's user guide, which is so much better than Sony's weak documents. Based on the enthusiasm for the RX10, you may have assumed that his RX10 e-book would be just around the corner, but this is what he has to say in http://friedmanarchives.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/untangling-fill-flash.html

"Will I be writing a book on the new Sony RX-10? Although the camera appears to be technically outstanding, due to relatively low interest I'm not planning on it. (But if I get enough requests I can change my mind in a hurry.)"

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h2odog Senior Member • Posts: 1,042
Re: Gary Friedman and the RX10

Actually prefer Alexander S. White to Gary Friedman. See if White will be coming out with a guide to the RX10.

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Corkcampbell
Corkcampbell Forum Pro • Posts: 15,643
Would certainly agree with that.

Friedman's books are really lightweight, usually a generation behind. When the Sony dSLTs came out his books were basically copy and pastes of his books about the KM cameras, almost ignoring the video and giving some, what many people considered, wrong advice. He finally came around a little, but he has trouble with having to spend the time to learn new technology. He always writes for the previous generation of cameras.

The RX10 is a different animal - even its Bionz engine is tweaked differently than it is in the other RX cameras, and using a 1" sensor for serious work is a lot different (in video and stills) than using the larger sensor cameras that Friedman has been comfortable with. It's a video-centric camera designed for journalists, not grandmothers. He would have to include a chapter, for instance, on the clean HDMI readout to a recorder such as the Ninja, and another about the new codecs in the camera and the challenges they have presented to Sony. These are things that are probably beyond him. I don't think that anyone can measure the amount of interest in the camera at this point, so I think that Friedman has probably just made the judgement that he doesn't want to make the effort to learn about it.

White often really gets into the new technology and features of cameras, and his discussion of the codecs of video are often very good, and I especially like how he spends pages on how, for example, when you are not in movie mode, but still record video, how the settings in whatever still mode you are in affect your video recording, such as ISO changes. I've always had the feeling that White just knows more about the camera about which he is writing, spends a lot more time researching it, and doesn't want to leave any detail unaddressed. Friedman, on the other hand, has basically been writing the same book for a decade.

For the people who are attracted by the RX-10, I think a new book by White would be more substantial.

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dan.carter Contributing Member • Posts: 582
Re: Gary Friedman and the RX10

Digital Nigel wrote:

"Will I be writing a book on the new Sony RX-10? Although the camera appears to be technically outstanding, due to relatively low interest I'm not planning on it. (But if I get enough requests I can change my mind in a hurry.)"

Low interest??

Corkcampbell
Corkcampbell Forum Pro • Posts: 15,643
Yeah, that was a bit lame.

The camera has generated a lot of interest; even Luminous Landscape picked one up as soon as they could get one and wrote an article on it. It's a different kind of camera, video-centric, and aimed at a different audience, so Friedman may not want to spend the time to learn it, as I mentioned in my earlier post.

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Lunal Forum Member • Posts: 51
Re: Would certainly agree with that.

Thanks for the heads-up.

While waiting for a nice book on the RX10 I bought the iBooks version by White of the RX100II just to get a grasp on some of the menu items.

I hope for a book on the RX10 soon.

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Jerry Stevens Senior Member • Posts: 2,519
Agree on the lame remark about "low interest"

Can he not even do a simple thread count? Much less, the vast majority of extremely positive reviews already posted. Must already be in his winter hibernation mode.

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DavieK Contributing Member • Posts: 705
Re: Agree on the lame remark about "low interest"
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Gary has had other things to deal with in the last few months, which make comments about hibernation mode etc rather unkind. There's only one of him, and he has had to recruit a co-writer to keep up with the sheer pace of Sony launches not to mention the other brands he's trying to cover. He concentrated on one audience - DSLR - and a sector of that - Sony - which allowed a fair balance of time for each successive launch. We now have the result of three Sony divisions all creating products for one market. He's not hibernating, he's off with A7 and A7R and all I can say is good luck - it'll be a month more before I even try to finish an A7R review of 2500 words or so, let alone a guide book.

You're right in assuming that the still photography buyer is his main audience. I find the RX10 sufficiently good to have sold an A99 to get it (or, putting that differently, the RX10 made it possible for me to sell the A99, as it has the video functions I needed which were only otherwise available in the A99).

David

Grady Causey New Member • Posts: 11
Re: Agree on the lame remark about "low interest"

I agree with David.  Gary is one of the hardest working and kind hearted people in the industry.  He has demonstrated on numerous occasions his sincere interest in assisting anyone interested in photography.  He not only produces some of the best e-books, but does focused photo workshops and practical travel workshops in a number of other countries.  The man is very busy.  His time is valuable and it seems insensitive to personally degrade the gentleman.  I'm sure when he has a good sense of what the market holds for the RX-10, he will make an appropriate decision.

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Jerry Stevens Senior Member • Posts: 2,519
Re: Agree on the lame remark about "low interest"
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You completely misread my remark. I said nothing disparaging about the man's character nor his  work nor his past contributions. He is a fine fellow, no doubt. He is hard working, no doubt. He has made contributions, no doubt. He is busy, no doubt. I never said anything close to denying any of these points.

None of these observations, however, are to the point. They do not even begin to justify a completely out of touch comment like "low interest" on a camera that has scores of websites buzzing with interest and plenty of reviews already published that are fully impressed this camera has carved out an interesting new niche, which alone is a significant achievement in a crowed market. My hibernation comparison had no ill intent at all. That was the best analogy I could think of for such a comment apparently just not really much aware of the immediate Internet context. Characterizing the RX10 as of "low interest" at this point in time is just a lame remark altogether, like waking up from a long nap and groggy about the immediate environment.

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pako Senior Member • Posts: 1,749
Re: Agree on the lame remark about "low interest"

DavieK wrote:

You're right in assuming that the still photography buyer is his main audience. I find the RX10 sufficiently good to have sold an A99 to get it (or, putting that differently, the RX10 made it possible for me to sell the A99, as it has the video functions I needed which were only otherwise available in the A99).

Hi David

Why the A7R can not fulfill your needs for video and replace the A99? I know the RX10 is a video friendly camera...

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PC Wheeler
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Re: Gary Friedman and the RX10

dan.carter wrote:

Digital Nigel wrote:

"Will I be writing a book on the new Sony RX-10? Although the camera appears to be technically outstanding, due to relatively low interest I'm not planning on it. (But if I get enough requests I can change my mind in a hurry.)"

Low interest??

Perhaps he feels that the RX10 price will limit sales. Lots of folks interested, but only those who buy will likely buy a book.

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Digital Nigel OP Veteran Member • Posts: 4,416
Re: Gary Friedman is nRX10

It seems that Gary has changed his mind, and is now working on an RX10 book. From his latest newsletter:

"RX-10 Ebook

Whenever a new camera comes out, I track all the requests I get to write a book about it. When the RX-100 came out, for example, I had no intention of writing about it. But literally hundreds of requests for a book on it made me change my mind (and now it's my favorite everyday camera!) When the RX-1 came out, even though the camera sold very well, I I received only about five requests. I concluded that the demographic for that camera already knew how to figure it out.

So in last month's blog I mentioned that I wasn't planning on writing an ebook for the RX-10 due to "low interest". In this case "Low Interest" was defined as "To date I received only three email requests to write a book". Since then I've received a lot of enthusiastic emails, so many in fact that I've now added the RX-10 to the list of ebooks slated for release in the 2nd quarter of 2014 (the other books being the Olympus OM-D E-M1 being written by Mike Hendren, Fujifilm X100s being written by Tony Phillips, and the A7 / A7r being written by yours truly. Drop me a line at Gary at Friedman Archives dot com if you'd like to be on the notification list for any of these cameras."

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Re: Agree on the lame remark about "low interest"

Gary's remark about "low interest" for the R10 referred to his mail, not an overall comment on the entire photo community. And as a matter of fact, his mail did increase and in an e-mail received today he says he will work on a R10 book.

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Digital Nigel OP Veteran Member • Posts: 4,416
It's coming out next quarter

Yes, as I quoted in my post, he says it'll be published in Q2.

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aroundomaha Senior Member • Posts: 2,273
Re: Yeah, that was a bit lame.

Corkcampbell wrote:

The camera has generated a lot of interest; even Luminous Landscape picked one up as soon as they could get one and wrote an article on it. It's a different kind of camera, video-centric, and aimed at a different audience, so Friedman may not want to spend the time to learn it, as I mentioned in my earlier post.

Absolutely dead on. The RX10 has captured my attention as a Nikon and M43 shooter when none of their other line up has. The difference maker in this is a combination of things; the ND filter, 60P video, the constant 2.8. To me this is an exciting home run by Sony.

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