Mr. Rokinon 35mm 1.4 - test at f/1.4

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moimoi
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Mr. Rokinon 35mm 1.4 - test at f/1.4

Hello,

As I am a big fan of the 35 mm focal length, I have done more performance test of this lens at f/1.4.  My conclusion is that the lens deliver very good results wide open, it is sharp and the contrast remains strong.

The "Fluffy Ball" photo was shot with the beloved a900 and Mr. Rokinon 35mm at f/1.4 (f/ number in the exif is wrong because there is no communication between the camera and the lens).

The original photo 6048 x 4032 has been reduced to 1920 x 1280 in the first shot:

The Fluffy Ball

The Bokeh looks really quite good at this distance, the lens is sharp wide open, and there is plenty of contrast.

100 % crop

For pixel peepers, I attached a 1920x1280 resolution 100 % crop frame.   It looks pretty sharp at f/1.4, isn't it.

My conclusion:  For those of you who are not scared with manual focus, that lens is a real bargain (~425-450 USD), and it has great optics, and is decently built.   For those of you who seek AF capability, the Sigma is your best option.  Avoid the Sony 35mm 1.4 which is absolutely not sharp wide open, and is much more expensive (and you want some amount of sharpness at f/1.4, otherwise, what's the point to buy a f/1.4 lens)

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Vikas Rana
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Re: Mr. Rokinon 35mm 1.4 - test at f/1.4

Nice, I liked it but I'm scared of using MF. They should provide a screw-drive at minimal.

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RussAdams Contributing Member • Posts: 831
Don't be afraid of MF with Focus Peaking...
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Vikas Rana wrote:

Nice, I liked it but I'm scared of using MF. They should provide a screw-drive at minimal.

Rokinon are building some really nice glass. I have both the 8mm and 14mm versions and LOVE them.

If you have not tried Focus Peaking, you can give it a try with any of your existing AF lenses.

Just set your camera to MF, and turn on Focus Peaking. A whole different world will open up. I find I use it more and more for cityscapes and landscapes. I can get a sharper result than AF, and it only takes an additional moment. I'm using it more and more with my old Minolta 125mm macro when I'm shooting 'general' photography.

Just my .02 cents.

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Nice!

Thanks for showing a great example of what the Rokinon can do wide open. These 'real life' samples are a big help.

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Re: Mr. Rokinon 35mm 1.4 - test at f/1.4

I understand it can be intimidating at first, but at such wide apertures, AF can be somewhat imprecise. Also, at those wide apertures, if you lock the AF, and the recompose, it is very likely that the primary target will no longer be in focus. With manual focus, you don t have to recompose. It requires patience, skills, a bit of luck as well. As time goes, you grow in experience.
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Re: Nice!

Indeed. You are welcome.
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stan_pustylnik Veteran Member • Posts: 3,875
Re: Mr. Rokinon 35mm 1.4 - test at f/1.4

Nice photo, moimoi! Maybe it is the lens I was looking for!

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On the Sony 35/1.4G

I doubt many Minolta or Sony 35/1.4G owners will be trading their lenses for this or the Sigma 35mm lenses. I'm sure they are very sharp.
Opinions of the Sony lens are 99.9% what was read by that person on the internet.
Owners generally love the certain special quality of this Sony lens.

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Re: On the Sony 35/1.4G

dennismullen wrote:

I doubt many Minolta or Sony 35/1.4G owners will be trading their lenses for this or the Sigma 35mm lenses. I'm sure they are very sharp.
Opinions of the Sony lens are 99.9% what was read by that person on the internet.
Owners generally love the certain special quality of this Sony lens.

I think owners can also be in denial. Here is one review of the Minolta/Sony 35/1.4G

http://slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/981

"We tested two samples of this lens, as the first sample gave us what we considered to be unacceptably high softness wide open for a lens with this price tag. When the second lens tested identically, we accepted that this is just the nature of the lens."

Wide open, the Minolta/Sony is (very) soft while Rokinon or Sigma are sharp to very sharp (Sigma is a tad sharper). Sigma is the most impressive of the 35mm f/1.4, like it or not. Rokinon/Samyang is not too shabby either.

http://photographylife.com/reviews/sigma-35mm-f1-4

http://photographylife.com/reviews/sigma-35mm-f1-4/4

Both lenses are also cheaper, the Rokinon is the cheapest (but does not have AF, which is fine with me), the Sigma is cheaper than the Sony by 500 USD, which is not insignificant.

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Re: Mr. Rokinon 35mm 1.4 - test at f/1.4

That 35mm looks like it might be another lens I need to get in the future.

I recently got the Rokinon 85 1.4, and that is a great MF lens for the price.

It looks like Rokinon is making some great cost effective lenses.

Cute dog too!

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Re: Mr. Rokinon 35mm 1.4 - test at f/1.4

That 35mm looks like it might be another lens I need to get in the future.

I recently got the Rokinon 85 1.4, and that is a great MF lens for the price.

It looks like Rokinon is making some great cost effective lenses.

Cute dog too!

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The Roki cine version is on my list. Is it sharp on FF?

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i meant the 85 t1.5

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Re: Mr. Rokinon 35mm 1.4 - test at f/1.4

Looks great for 1.4. How is the color rendition of the rokinon? I have thought and looked at the 85mm but I have 75-135 @ 2.8 covered very well and am not sure I would use it enough.

I have been doing more and more portrait work though.  A faster 85mm could be sweet. Is there fringe with the 35? or 85.

Thank you-brian

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Re: Mr. Rokinon 35mm 1.4 - test at f/1.4

moimoi wrote:

That 35mm looks like it might be another lens I need to get in the future.

I recently got the Rokinon 85 1.4, and that is a great MF lens for the price.

It looks like Rokinon is making some great cost effective lenses.

Cute dog too!

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The Roki cine version is on my list. Is it sharp on FF?

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I bought the 85mm 1.4 regular version.  It has the aperture ring with the "clicks" unlike the smooth motion of the t1.5.  The t version also has some electronics to show some data, I believe.

Unfortunately I have not tested the 85 f1.4 on a full frame as I only have crop cameras.  But on my equipment it seems to be quite sharp @ f1.4.  The depth of field is wonderfully shallow, but also perplexing.  The focus peaking and zoom focus assist is great.

After reading many reviews raving about the Rokinon lenses, I am very happy that it is proving to be a very nice performer.

Good to hear about other Rokinon primes and their high performance.

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Re: Mr. Rokinon 35mm 1.4 - test at f/1.4

Vikas Rana wrote:

Nice, I liked it but I'm scared of using MF. They should provide a screw-drive at minimal.

I use manual with zoom assist...focus on the eye(or whatever). click...done deal.- Easy really.

Before Minolta came out with autofocus in 1985 everyone manually focused, its not rocket science.

But I can only imagine the frustration/heartache though with film, very fast lenses and those 'just off' shots that didn't reveal themselves till the film was developed.

It is the action and bif's with manual that take a bit of work/luck.

Thanks-brian

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how is CA/PF with this lens?

I too would be interested to hear about PF/CA issues.

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Re: Mr. Rokinon 35mm 1.4 - test at f/1.4

brian14478 wrote:

Looks great for 1.4. How is the color rendition of the rokinon? I have thought and looked at the 85mm but I have 75-135 @ 2.8 covered very well and am not sure I would use it enough.

I can only speak for the 35mm 1.4 (but I plan to get the 85 mm 1.4 whenever I get focus peaking). Color rendition is very nice, on the warm side generally. It is a sharp lens at f/1.4-2 and becomes very sharp at f/2.8 and beyond. I sold my Zeiss 24-70 f/2.8, and there is a good reason for that

Those f/1.4 lenses are best to be used at f/1.4-2, the rendering is very smooth as expected for such a fast lens. It really opens a new artistic area.

I have been doing more and more portrait work though. A faster 85mm could be sweet. Is there fringe with the 35? or 85.

For the 35 mm, the CA/CF are well controlled (although inevitable at f/1.4). CA can be easily removed via ACR (if you shoot raw). The Samyang (Rokinon) has been tested by Dxo marks and Photozone.  This review was done with the D3x, the closest camera to the Sony a900.

http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/658-samyang3514fx?start=2

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Re: how is CA/PF with this lens?

I too would be interested to hear about PF/CA issues.

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Stan,

Check the photozone review that has been done with the Nikon D3x (sensor is very similar to the A900) and the Samyang 35 mm.

It has very good marks.

Cheers,

Moimoi

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Re: Mr. Rokinon 35mm 1.4 - test at f/1.4

That's a sharp shot, with very good contrast and colors. I have the Rokinons 85/1.4 an 8/3.5 and they're both very good, I bought them when I had A77 and A900. With the A99 and Roki 85 the peaking seems not to be working so well ( many times won't show - I must be doing something wrong? ). Anyway I'm planning now in getting the 14mm/2.8 and the 35/1.4 ( though IMO looks a bit large ).

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