My canon 6D experience so far

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Undah Veteran Member • Posts: 5,320
My canon 6D experience so far
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I'm comparing to a Sony a57 with good glass.

I got a Canon 6D with 24-105mm L f4 and a 70-300 I.S. USM.

Observations:

Glass matters. The Sony 70-300mm G lens is just better on the Sony a57 than what I have on the Canon. Oh, and that crop factor on a crop sensor is for real, ie I get better closeups at 300mm with the a57 for sure!

I miss the easy live view on the sony, with the ability to fine-tune White Balance before the shot. But I thought the EVF on the Sony was a good until I did a side by side with the Canon, and WOW, how beautiful is that large, bright viewfinder?

High Iso. One of the main reasons I went full frame. It cannot be overemphasized how good this is! I can now shoot in auto iso with impunity, and have not even thought once about noise removal. I have a hand-held shot at night at iso 12,800 that could only be had previously with a tripod. It's simply incredible.

So far, though, my a57 shots are better. This is not unexpected, however, as it always takes me some time to get the best out of a new camera. And in this case, it's a new system, and the numbers are all off (I know exactly what 50mm f4 will give me on aps-c, for example, but now I need to re-learn what this is on full-frame.)

It's still early, less than a full day of shooting and tinkering.

The canon shots need much higher unsharp mask in photoshop. 100/1/0 or 300/0.3/1 vs 450/0.2/0 for the Sony. I guess that just means less in-camera sharpening but that's adjustable. After proper sharpening the images really pop.

Full frame makes shots better, but good glass has a greater effect. It's unfair to compare my Sony 35mm f1.8, 50mm f1.4, ant Tamron 90mm macro on the a57 to the 6D with the equivalent Focal Length on the two zooms I have. Or maybe I just haven't figured out how to get the best out of them yet.

I will miss the 2-axis electronic level on the sony. It's one of those features you get used to and use all the time. Yes the 6D has a one axis level in live view! And sometimes I turn on live view just to use it.  But overall live-view on this cam is slow and cumbersome.

I will miss focus peeking. Another feature that is just too useful not to have.

Using the pad as a remote is awesome, but needs updating as well. It should be an ipad app and not an iphone app that scales up. It should have better focus options and more functions like an intervolometer. Also, I dont think you can change whit balance from the app.

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flylow47 Regular Member • Posts: 176
Re: My canon 6D experience so far

I can see the level by pressing the info key a couple of times when in normal shooting mode on the 6D. There is an option to disable or enable this feature in the playback-3 menu under "info button display options."  Too bad it's not in the viewfinder; the 70D does both.

Right on with the low light. I'm really enjoying that myself (6D arrived today) and put on my 50 1.4 to play around with it.

This is going to be a fun camera.

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Plastek Contributing Member • Posts: 619
Re: My canon 6D experience so far

Undah wrote:

I'm comparing to a Sony a57 with good glass.

I got a Canon 6D with 24-105mm L f4 and a 70-300 I.S. USM.

Observations:

Glass matters. The Sony 70-300mm G lens is just better on the Sony a57 than what I have on the Canon. Oh, and that crop factor on a crop sensor is for real, ie I get better closeups at 300mm with the a57 for sure!

So far, though, my a57 shots are better. This is not unexpected, however, as it always takes me some time to get the best out of a new camera. And in this case, it's a new system, and the numbers are all off (I know exactly what 50mm f4 will give me on aps-c, for example, but now I need to re-learn what this is on full-frame.)

One of the simple, well known truths: Sony shines with bodies. They're uber-high tech and can do tons of stuff no other system can. Canon shines with lenses - especially exotic glass like T&S or MP-E macro lenses, stuff that you can't really get for A-mount. (that said though Sony still got some brilliant lenses that beat crap out of Canon - like 70-400 or 135 f/1.8 or STF - but you don't have any of these, so move to Canon will be less painful for you )

There always will be things that 6D can't replace your A57 in. Get used to that, and just find the parts where 6D shines over A57, as there's plenty of them.

brightcolours Forum Pro • Posts: 14,056
Re: My canon 6D experience so far
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Undah wrote:

I'm comparing to a Sony a57 with good glass.

I got a Canon 6D with 24-105mm L f4 and a 70-300 I.S. USM.

Observations:

Glass matters. The Sony 70-300mm G lens is just better on the Sony a57 than what I have on the Canon.

That Sony lens is also quite a bit more expensive (twice the amount)... The Canon EF 70-300mm L IS USM is even better than the Sony, but again, more expensive.

Oh, and that crop factor on a crop sensor is for real, ie I get better closeups at 300mm with the a57 for sure!

Yes, for reach APS-C of course has an advantage.

I miss the easy live view on the sony, with the ability to fine-tune White Balance before the shot. But I thought the EVF on the Sony was a good until I did a side by side with the Canon, and WOW, how beautiful is that large, bright viewfinder?

High Iso. One of the main reasons I went full frame. It cannot be overemphasized how good this is! I can now shoot in auto iso with impunity, and have not even thought once about noise removal. I have a hand-held shot at night at iso 12,800 that could only be had previously with a tripod. It's simply incredible.

So far, though, my a57 shots are better. This is not unexpected, however, as it always takes me some time to get the best out of a new camera. And in this case, it's a new system, and the numbers are all off (I know exactly what 50mm f4 will give me on aps-c, for example, but now I need to re-learn what this is on full-frame.)

It's still early, less than a full day of shooting and tinkering.

The canon shots need much higher unsharp mask in photoshop. 100/1/0 or 300/0.3/1 vs 450/0.2/0 for the Sony. I guess that just means less in-camera sharpening but that's adjustable. After proper sharpening the images really pop.

Maybe that Sony has a bit lighter AA filter, or maybe you are shooting JPEG and have to tinker with the sharpening settings to get them more matched. Also, if you shoot at similar f-values, of course the APS-C camera will have a bigger DOF.

Full frame makes shots better, but good glass has a greater effect. It's unfair to compare my Sony 35mm f1.8, 50mm f1.4, ant Tamron 90mm macro on the a57 to the 6D with the equivalent Focal Length on the two zooms I have.

It should not be too different, as long as you use comparable aperture settings. So for f4 on the Sony, use f4 x 1.5 = f6 (f6.3) on the Canon. That will give you similar DOF to compare.

Or maybe I just haven't figured out how to get the best out of them yet.

I will miss the 2-axis electronic level on the sony. It's one of those features you get used to and use all the time. Yes the 6D has a one axis level in live view! And sometimes I turn on live view just to use it. But overall live-view on this cam is slow and cumbersome.

The live view is not slow in any way, but I guess you are referring to the contrast detect AF in live view. It is lens dependent, but the faster STM lenses are all APS-C except the 40mm f2.8 (which btw has a slower compact STM implementation). Your 6D can focus fast in live view too, but then you have to switch the live view AF to phase detection (Quick mode). The screen will black out during AF, but the AF is fast.

On the electronic level... Teach yourself to use the AF point markings for reference, that works well and becomes 2nd nature. You can also get a different focus screen from Canon, the Eg-D, which gives you a grid in the OVF.

http://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/focusing-screen-eg-d

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Canon-Eg-D-Precision-Matte-Focusing-Grid-Screen-for-Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-II-/160953959102

The 5D mkII Eg focus screens are compatible with the 6D.

Oh, and you can also use the level without live view, but that is only practical on a tripod.

I will miss focus peeking. Another feature that is just too useful not to have.

That is for manual focus. I use an Eg-S focussing screen with the OVF to give a better view on sharpness and DOF, but with f4 lenses it is easy enough with the standard focus screen and the Eg-D. I use the Eg-S because of f1.2-2 lenses (35mm f2, 55mm f1.2, 85mm f1.8, 140mm f1.8).

For focus peeking and other advanced toys you could decide to put a beta version of the magic lantern firmware on an SD card on your 6D. But you should read up on how to go about it and study that first.

Using the pad as a remote is awesome, but needs updating as well. It should be an ipad app and not an iphone app that scales up. It should have better focus options and more functions like an intervolometer. Also, I dont think you can change whit balance from the app.

You seem to want to change white balance way too much. In general, one only needs to set the WB to anything other than "daylight" for sunny days and "cloudy" on overcast days in odd light situations, and then only once unless the light changes again.

WillC2807 Junior Member • Posts: 25
You can display the level in the viewfinder
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It uses the exposure bars. The DOF preview button can be programmed to turn it on and off. See C.FnIII-5.

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sean lancaster Veteran Member • Posts: 7,232
Re: My canon 6D experience so far

brightcolours wrote:

Undah wrote:

I will miss the 2-axis electronic level on the sony. It's one of those features you get used to and use all the time. Yes the 6D has a one axis level in live view! And sometimes I turn on live view just to use it. But overall live-view on this cam is slow and cumbersome.

The live view is not slow in any way, but I guess you are referring to the contrast detect AF in live view. It is lens dependent, but the faster STM lenses are all APS-C except the 40mm f2.8 (which btw has a slower compact STM implementation). Your 6D can focus fast in live view too, but then you have to switch the live view AF to phase detection (Quick mode). The screen will black out during AF, but the AF is fast.

I have a Sony NEX 5N and purchased an RX1, Nikon D600, and now largely use a Canon 6D. The 6D and D600 LiveViews seem generations behind the Sonys and it's not even close. They are absolutely slow compared to the Sonys. I barely use LV on my 6D now unless I just can't get my eye to the VF. Fortunately, the 6D is fast through the OVF and center focus point is fairly unparalleled in low light with these settings (at least with any camera within a few thousand dollars).

I will miss focus peeking. Another feature that is just too useful not to have.

That is for manual focus. I use an Eg-S focussing screen with the OVF to give a better view on sharpness and DOF, but with f4 lenses it is easy enough with the standard focus screen and the Eg-D. I use the Eg-S because of f1.2-2 lenses (35mm f2, 55mm f1.2, 85mm f1.8, 140mm f1.8).

Agree with brightcolors here. I added the Eg-S and haven't looked back. But my slowest lens is f/2.8. I think the Eg-S does not work well with lenses slower than f/2.8, but you'd have to check that yourself (it gets dark pretty quickly with slower lenses).

Focus peaking is the one feature I miss the most from my Sonys. Even with an AF lens, I can use a setting called DMF, which allows my NEX 5N to AF like normal. I can then start to manual focus and as soon as I twist the manual focus ring at all, the LCD zooms to 100% so I can critically focus (e.g., eyelashes) and get visual feedback (though, my eyes can see sharpness as well). It takes a split second typically and ensures 100% keepers so that I avoid the eyebrow being in focus or tip of the nose and not the eyes themselves (particularly useful at f/1.4). As brightcolors noted, there is a beta version of Magic Lantern that offers focus peaking. I have not had the gumption to try it yet, but it's a free option for the adventurous.

Using the pad as a remote is awesome, but needs updating as well. It should be an ipad app and not an iphone app that scales up. It should have better focus options and more functions like an intervolometer. Also, I dont think you can change whit balance from the app.

You seem to want to change white balance way too much. In general, one only needs to set the WB to anything other than "daylight" for sunny days and "cloudy" on overcast days in odd light situations, and then only once unless the light changes again.

I think a lot of people complain about florescent and incandescent lighting causing issues with WB. There are a host of household lighting scenes that many cameras struggle to get right. But I'd set that before shooting from the app.

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OP Undah Veteran Member • Posts: 5,320
Re: My canon 6D experience so far

Lots of good tips here..

Use af square as level, WB for situation etc.

brightcolours Forum Pro • Posts: 14,056
Re: My canon 6D experience so far

sean lancaster wrote:

brightcolours wrote:

Undah wrote:

I will miss the 2-axis electronic level on the sony. It's one of those features you get used to and use all the time. Yes the 6D has a one axis level in live view! And sometimes I turn on live view just to use it. But overall live-view on this cam is slow and cumbersome.

The live view is not slow in any way, but I guess you are referring to the contrast detect AF in live view. It is lens dependent, but the faster STM lenses are all APS-C except the 40mm f2.8 (which btw has a slower compact STM implementation). Your 6D can focus fast in live view too, but then you have to switch the live view AF to phase detection (Quick mode). The screen will black out during AF, but the AF is fast.

As I pointed out, it is lens dependent. Lenses designed for PD AF will be slow to AF with contrast detect AF. Same for Sony, put an A-mount lens on the camera.

But as I pointed out, if for whatever reason you do not want to use the OVF but live view, and still want to AF with the lens, and it needs to be fast, you can use PD AF. When in future more lenses in the Canon line up sport STM, more lenses will offer quicker contrast detect AF in live view.

I have a Sony NEX 5N and purchased an RX1, Nikon D600, and now largely use a Canon 6D. The 6D and D600 LiveViews seem generations behind the Sonys and it's not even close. They are absolutely slow compared to the Sonys. I barely use LV on my 6D now unless I just can't get my eye to the VF. Fortunately, the 6D is fast through the OVF and center focus point is fairly unparalleled in low light with these settings (at least with any camera within a few thousand dollars).

I will miss focus peeking. Another feature that is just too useful not to have.

That is for manual focus. I use an Eg-S focussing screen with the OVF to give a better view on sharpness and DOF, but with f4 lenses it is easy enough with the standard focus screen and the Eg-D. I use the Eg-S because of f1.2-2 lenses (35mm f2, 55mm f1.2, 85mm f1.8, 140mm f1.8).

Agree with brightcolors here. I added the Eg-S and haven't looked back. But my slowest lens is f/2.8. I think the Eg-S does not work well with lenses slower than f/2.8, but you'd have to check that yourself (it gets dark pretty quickly with slower lenses).

Outside, f5.6 lenses are fine with Eg-S. Indoors at low light conditions, things do get dark. Whether that is still workable for one is personal.

Focus peaking is the one feature I miss the most from my Sonys. Even with an AF lens, I can use a setting called DMF, which allows my NEX 5N to AF like normal. I can then start to manual focus and as soon as I twist the manual focus ring at all, the LCD zooms to 100% so I can critically focus (e.g., eyelashes) and get visual feedback (though, my eyes can see sharpness as well). It takes a split second typically and ensures 100% keepers so that I avoid the eyebrow being in focus or tip of the nose and not the eyes themselves (particularly useful at f/1.4). As brightcolors noted, there is a beta version of Magic Lantern that offers focus peaking. I have not had the gumption to try it yet, but it's a free option for the adventurous.

Using the pad as a remote is awesome, but needs updating as well. It should be an ipad app and not an iphone app that scales up. It should have better focus options and more functions like an intervolometer. Also, I dont think you can change whit balance from the app.

You seem to want to change white balance way too much. In general, one only needs to set the WB to anything other than "daylight" for sunny days and "cloudy" on overcast days in odd light situations, and then only once unless the light changes again.

I think a lot of people complain about florescent and incandescent lighting causing issues with WB. There are a host of household lighting scenes that many cameras struggle to get right. But I'd set that before shooting from the app.

brightcolours Forum Pro • Posts: 14,056
Re: You can display the level in the viewfinder

WillC2807 wrote:

It uses the exposure bars. The DOF preview button can be programmed to turn it on and off. See C.FnIII-5.

Nice, I did not know that. Thanks for this useful tip.

sean lancaster
sean lancaster Veteran Member • Posts: 7,232
Re: My canon 6D experience so far

brightcolours wrote:

sean lancaster wrote:

brightcolours wrote:

Undah wrote:

I will miss the 2-axis electronic level on the sony. It's one of those features you get used to and use all the time. Yes the 6D has a one axis level in live view! And sometimes I turn on live view just to use it. But overall live-view on this cam is slow and cumbersome.

The live view is not slow in any way, but I guess you are referring to the contrast detect AF in live view. It is lens dependent, but the faster STM lenses are all APS-C except the 40mm f2.8 (which btw has a slower compact STM implementation). Your 6D can focus fast in live view too, but then you have to switch the live view AF to phase detection (Quick mode). The screen will black out during AF, but the AF is fast.

As I pointed out, it is lens dependent. Lenses designed for PD AF will be slow to AF with contrast detect AF. Same for Sony, put an A-mount lens on the camera.

But as I pointed out, if for whatever reason you do not want to use the OVF but live view, and still want to AF with the lens, and it needs to be fast, you can use PD AF. When in future more lenses in the Canon line up sport STM, more lenses will offer quicker contrast detect AF in live view.

I've largely used a Sigma 35/1.4 Art and Canon 100/2.8L. But I notice my 40 pancake has STM so I'll see how it differs. Thanks.

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OP Undah Veteran Member • Posts: 5,320
Re: My canon 6D experience so far

sean lancaster wrote:

brightcolours wrote:

sean lancaster wrote:

brightcolours wrote:

Undah wrote:

I will miss the 2-axis electronic level on the sony. It's one of those features you get used to and use all the time. Yes the 6D has a one axis level in live view! And sometimes I turn on live view just to use it. But overall live-view on this cam is slow and cumbersome.

The live view is not slow in any way, but I guess you are referring to the contrast detect AF in live view. It is lens dependent, but the faster STM lenses are all APS-C except the 40mm f2.8 (which btw has a slower compact STM implementation). Your 6D can focus fast in live view too, but then you have to switch the live view AF to phase detection (Quick mode). The screen will black out during AF, but the AF is fast.

As I pointed out, it is lens dependent. Lenses designed for PD AF will be slow to AF with contrast detect AF. Same for Sony, put an A-mount lens on the camera.

But as I pointed out, if for whatever reason you do not want to use the OVF but live view, and still want to AF with the lens, and it needs to be fast, you can use PD AF. When in future more lenses in the Canon line up sport STM, more lenses will offer quicker contrast detect AF in live view.

I've largely used a Sigma 35/1.4 Art and Canon 100/2.8L. But I notice my 40 pancake has STM so I'll see how it differs. Thanks.

That sigma 35mm 1.4 is probably my next lens. How do you like it?

sean lancaster
sean lancaster Veteran Member • Posts: 7,232
Re: My canon 6D experience so far

Undah wrote:

sean lancaster wrote:

brightcolours wrote:

sean lancaster wrote:

brightcolours wrote:

Undah wrote:

I will miss the 2-axis electronic level on the sony. It's one of those features you get used to and use all the time. Yes the 6D has a one axis level in live view! And sometimes I turn on live view just to use it. But overall live-view on this cam is slow and cumbersome.

The live view is not slow in any way, but I guess you are referring to the contrast detect AF in live view. It is lens dependent, but the faster STM lenses are all APS-C except the 40mm f2.8 (which btw has a slower compact STM implementation). Your 6D can focus fast in live view too, but then you have to switch the live view AF to phase detection (Quick mode). The screen will black out during AF, but the AF is fast.

As I pointed out, it is lens dependent. Lenses designed for PD AF will be slow to AF with contrast detect AF. Same for Sony, put an A-mount lens on the camera.

But as I pointed out, if for whatever reason you do not want to use the OVF but live view, and still want to AF with the lens, and it needs to be fast, you can use PD AF. When in future more lenses in the Canon line up sport STM, more lenses will offer quicker contrast detect AF in live view.

I've largely used a Sigma 35/1.4 Art and Canon 100/2.8L. But I notice my 40 pancake has STM so I'll see how it differs. Thanks.

That sigma 35mm 1.4 is probably my next lens. How do you like it?

My favorite lens of all time. On my 6D 85% of the time.

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qianp2k Forum Pro • Posts: 10,350
Re: My canon 6D experience so far

sean lancaster wrote:

brightcolours wrote:

Undah wrote:

I will miss the 2-axis electronic level on the sony. It's one of those features you get used to and use all the time. Yes the 6D has a one axis level in live view! And sometimes I turn on live view just to use it. But overall live-view on this cam is slow and cumbersome.

The live view is not slow in any way, but I guess you are referring to the contrast detect AF in live view. It is lens dependent, but the faster STM lenses are all APS-C except the 40mm f2.8 (which btw has a slower compact STM implementation). Your 6D can focus fast in live view too, but then you have to switch the live view AF to phase detection (Quick mode). The screen will black out during AF, but the AF is fast.

I have a Sony NEX 5N and purchased an RX1, Nikon D600, and now largely use a Canon 6D. The 6D and D600 LiveViews seem generations behind the Sonys and it's not even close. They are absolutely slow compared to the Sonys. I barely use LV on my 6D now unless I just can't get my eye to the VF. Fortunately, the 6D is fast through the OVF and center focus point is fairly unparalleled in low light with these settings (at least with any camera within a few thousand dollars).

Canon DSLR owners use LV mainly for video, MF on tripod (thru 10x LV) that has the highest focus accuracy than any other focus methods, or if you want to push slower shutter by leveraging first electronic curtain.  70D is the first Canon DSLR dramatically improves AF speed in LV thru the dual-pixel PDAF technology that is expected to be further improved and implemented likely in future Canon FF cameras.

rebel99 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,025
Re: My canon 6D experience so far

flylow47 wrote:

I can see the level by pressing the info key a couple of times when in normal shooting mode on the 6D. There is an option to disable or enable this feature in the playback-3 menu under "info button display options." Too bad it's not in the viewfinder; the 70D does both.

Right on with the low light. I'm really enjoying that myself (6D arrived today) and put on my 50 1.4 to play around with it.

This is going to be a fun camera.

you were allowed to open it and play with it before xmas?

cheerz.

RedFox88 Forum Pro • Posts: 26,916
Re: My canon 6D experience so far

Undah wrote:

I'm comparing to a Sony a57 with good glass.

I got a Canon 6D with 24-105mm L f4 and a 70-300 I.S. USM.

Observations:

Glass matters. The Sony 70-300mm G lens is just better on the Sony a57 than what I have on the Canon. Oh, and that crop factor on a crop sensor is for real, ie I get better closeups at 300mm with the a57 for sure!

The 70-300 IS is a bit of an old lens, right? The sony is probably newer, keep that in mind.

I miss the easy live view on the sony, with the ability to fine-tune White Balance before the shot. But I thought the EVF on the Sony was a good until I did a side by side with the Canon, and WOW, how beautiful is that large, bright viewfinder?

So which are you saying is better? Hard to tell.

High Iso. One of the main reasons I went full frame. It cannot be overemphasized how good this is! I can now shoot in auto iso with impunity, and have not even thought once about noise removal. I have a hand-held shot at night at iso 12,800 that could only be had previously with a tripod. It's simply incredible.

So far, though, my a57 shots are better. This is not unexpected, however, as it always takes me some time to get the best out of a new camera. And in this case, it's a new system, and the numbers are all off (I know exactly what 50mm f4 will give me on aps-c, for example, but now I need to re-learn what this is on full-frame.)

It's still early, less than a full day of shooting and tinkering.

The canon shots need much higher unsharp mask in photoshop. 100/1/0 or 300/0.3/1 vs 450/0.2/0 for the Sony. I guess that just means less in-camera sharpening but that's adjustable. After proper sharpening the images really pop.

Probably has different variables. My old Drebel (6MP) needed a full amount of sharpening, but my 5D (13MP) shots could often do fine without any sharpening - and that's from RAW.

Full frame makes shots better, but good glass has a greater effect. It's unfair to compare my Sony 35mm f1.8, 50mm f1.4, ant Tamron 90mm macro on the a57 to the 6D with the equivalent Focal Length on the two zooms I have. Or maybe I just haven't figured out how to get the best out of them yet.

I will miss the 2-axis electronic level on the sony. It's one of those features you get used to and use all the time. Yes the 6D has a one axis level in live view! And sometimes I turn on live view just to use it. But overall live-view on this cam is slow and cumbersome.

I will miss focus peeking. Another feature that is just too useful not to have.

Using the pad as a remote is awesome, but needs updating as well. It should be an ipad app and not an iphone app that scales up. It should have better focus options and more functions like an intervolometer. Also, I dont think you can change whit balance from the app.

JoSquared Regular Member • Posts: 100
Re: My canon 6D experience so far

I got mine 2 days ago:) Pleased with it so far altho i'm a novice and have never even used a DSLR before this. Haven't figured out a correct workflow yet, just been shooting in RAW, adding a few small tweaks in Preview mode on Mac and then exporting to a sizable JPEG altho not "best" size.

I feel like i'm not getting as good of pictures as I see on the internet but this will take some getting used to i'm sure. Shooting above 1.4, adding sharpness and noise reduction to get rid of RAW grain, maybe snag a copy of Aperture for that, i'll get there eventually. Just taking pictures and experimenting with this camera tho is extremely fun, i'm enjoying it thoroughly and even have my friend purchasing a 6D of her own soon:)

OP Undah Veteran Member • Posts: 5,320
Re: My canon 6D experience so far

RedFox88 wrote:

Undah wrote:

I miss the easy live view on the sony, with the ability to fine-tune White Balance before the shot. But I thought the EVF on the Sony was a good until I did a side by side with the Canon, and WOW, how beautiful is that large, bright viewfinder?

So which are you saying is better? Hard to tell.

The big, beautiful, large, bright viewfinder is that of the Canon 6D.

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Just another Canon shooter Senior Member • Posts: 4,691
Re: My canon 6D experience so far

The 70-300 IS does not do justice to the 6D. You should get a better lens.

You mention JPEGs. Canon is more conservative than many other brands with its in-camera sharpening. Try shooting RAW with LR/ACR.

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Keith Z Leonard Veteran Member • Posts: 5,930
Re: My canon 6D experience so far

How long have you been taking photos?  The internet is full of excellent photos taken by very experienced photographers, it isn't all about the camera.  Post processing certainly can make a huge impact as well and can take as long to learn as good lighting, composition, and capture techniques.  You will get better with time as you do it, no question, and you will get to know your specific equipment.

My cousin is a happy aperture user, though he doesn't do as much work in post as I do, I personally use lightroom and photoshop.  Your post reminds me of a friend who fell in love with Rosie Hardy's work.  He went out and bought a 5d2 and 85L because that's what she used, then he shot jpeg for 2 years.  He discovered that a large amount of her results is from photoshop, he started to get into it, but was unprepared for the fact that those results were not from the camera alone.

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JoSquared Regular Member • Posts: 100
Re: My canon 6D experience so far

Only been taking pictures for…well this weekend lol. I've been learning lots over the past few months tho while I researched cameras, so I could pick the right one and be ready when I got it. For right now the 6D seems the best choice for me. I use the center focus point which works well in any light, if I have to I focus and recompose as long as the DOF allows for it. Video seems fine for now altho in a year I may upgrade to a Mark III for the raw and lack of aliasing/moire unless there's more options by then. (altho i'm living the size/weight of the 6D)

Much like your friend I was influenced by a photographer/videographer as well. He uses a 50mm/Mark II tho. For a while I thought that's what I needed but I realized 1. Post can be a lot of photos 2. Creativity comes into play 3. If he can get those results from a few year old full frame, a newer one should have the same effect if not better. Didn't go for what I didn't need, and besides the better video the Mark III, 6D seems more than I need for what I wanna do.

And yeah i'm looking at Aperture for my post needs. I use FCPX as well, I try to stay away from Adobe products for the most part, they've given me headaches in the past. Having said that tho i've done some editing to my photos in Preview and i've been satisfied with the results thus far. Don't know what more Aperture can offer besides being able to edit directly to RAW as opposed to TIFF and then a big JPEG for a final export. Post is the area I haven't researched as much as cameras/lenses and what not. Kind of a minimalist so I don't see myself brushing areas with efx and that kinda of stuff, i'd rather just slightly tweak pics with the more broad settings…altho a noise reduction effect would be nice to have as well just in case...altho JPEG exports smooth it out too lol:P

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