OK, what do you think of -this- photo?

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Re: not a blizzard
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RedFox88 wrote:

skanter wrote:

This is one of mine, take a few years back. It was a huge blizzard here in NYC.

Sorry but the sun doesn't shine during a blizzard. There is a real definition of a blizzard and not every "blizzard" that news calls one is actually a blizzard. Your photos shows a sun reflection and that can't happen during blizzard conditions which essentially is sustained white-out conditions. So not even your photo could have been taken during a blizzard!

This was taken at NIGHT, during the heaviest BLIZZARD of the year in NYC.  There is no sun, you are seeing reflections of streetlights.

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Re: OK, what do you think of -this- photo?

BubbaHotepUK wrote:

It's fascinating how people "see" photos. I was immediately struck by a mood of nostalgia. soaking up the atmosphere and viewpoint. I then the thought that there could be some heavy photoshop work on it. Never occurred to me to interpret what actually I'm looking at in a literal sense, which I think is the strength of this photo (IMHO).

I agree.  I think the photo has a lot of emotion and mood to it.

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skanter wrote:

RedFox88 wrote:

skanter wrote:

This is one of mine, take a few years back. It was a huge blizzard here in NYC.

Sorry but the sun doesn't shine during a blizzard. There is a real definition of a blizzard and not every "blizzard" that news calls one is actually a blizzard. Your photos shows a sun reflection and that can't happen during blizzard conditions which essentially is sustained white-out conditions. So not even your photo could have been taken during a blizzard!

This was taken at NIGHT, during the heaviest BLIZZARD of the year in NYC. There is no sun, you are seeing reflections of streetlights.

Funny when someones comment becomes an Epic Fail!!!

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I couldn't agree more Sam. In fact, I did a write up on the whole issue of realism, emotion, and feeling on my blog here. I did a series of photos using Wet Plate Collodion to actually move away from technical purity and venture into the who arena of mood, feeling and emotion.

http://www.luttmannphotography.blogspot.ca/2013/10/emotional-narratives-and-low-fidelity.html

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Dave Luttmann wrote:

I couldn't agree more Sam. In fact, I did a write up on the whole issue of realism, emotion, and feeling on my blog here. I did a series of photos using Wet Plate Collodion to actually move away from technical purity and venture into the who arena of mood, feeling and emotion.

http://www.luttmannphotography.blogspot.ca/2013/10/emotional-narratives-and-low-fidelity.html

This reminded me so much of shots from early 20th century photographers.  I did a quick conversion in Snapseed on my iPad giving it the high contrast and grainy look.  Different mood yet again....

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Re: not a blizzard
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skanter wrote:

RedFox88 wrote:

skanter wrote:

This is one of mine, take a few years back. It was a huge blizzard here in NYC.

Sorry but the sun doesn't shine during a blizzard. There is a real definition of a blizzard and not every "blizzard" that news calls one is actually a blizzard. Your photos shows a sun reflection and that can't happen during blizzard conditions which essentially is sustained white-out conditions. So not even your photo could have been taken during a blizzard!

This was taken at NIGHT, during the heaviest BLIZZARD of the year in NYC. There is no sun, you are seeing reflections of streetlights.

It's either a blizzard or it isn't, not a "heaviest" blizzard.

A blizzard is a severe snowstorm characterized by strong sustained winds of at least 56 km/h (35 mph) and lasting for a prolonged period of time — typically three hours or more.  It's likely you might have just one blizzard a year, if any, in NYC.

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Re: OK, what do you think of -this- photo?

Dave Luttmann wrote:

BubbaHotepUK wrote:

It's fascinating how people "see" photos. I was immediately struck by a mood of nostalgia. soaking up the atmosphere and viewpoint. I then the thought that there could be some heavy photoshop work on it. Never occurred to me to interpret what actually I'm looking at in a literal sense, which I think is the strength of this photo (IMHO).

I agree. I think the photo has a lot of emotion and mood to it.

Thanks.

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RedFox88 wrote:

skanter wrote:

RedFox88 wrote:

skanter wrote:

This is one of mine, take a few years back. It was a huge blizzard here in NYC.

Sorry but the sun doesn't shine during a blizzard. There is a real definition of a blizzard and not every "blizzard" that news calls one is actually a blizzard. Your photos shows a sun reflection and that can't happen during blizzard conditions which essentially is sustained white-out conditions. So not even your photo could have been taken during a blizzard!

This was taken at NIGHT, during the heaviest BLIZZARD of the year in NYC. There is no sun, you are seeing reflections of streetlights.

It's either a blizzard or it isn't, not a "heaviest" blizzard.

A blizzard is a severe snowstorm characterized by strong sustained winds of at least 56 km/h (35 mph) and lasting for a prolonged period of time — typically three hours or more. It's likely you might have just one blizzard a year, if any, in NYC.

Yes, and this was it. You could make a good meteorologist, but first you'll have to recognize the difference between day and night.

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skanter wrote:

Yes, and this was it. You could make a good meteorologist, but first you'll have to recognize the difference between day and night.

Dude, and you should know that a blizzard would make day look like night.  And if it were really a blizzard, you would not be able to see so far ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT as seen in your photo.  A white out is just that - white which is what a blizzard would be.

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Let me sum up myself on the Instagram (and so on) matter in this way : I do appreciate the whole process of "hunting" for good image (the setting , time , light ...) and I really do prefer the photo to be "natural" , as less as possible of PP , more over I believe I myself can easily tell the (at least with 100% zoom) the filter processed image from the one taken "naturally" .

But , Instagram (and apps like it for smartphones) , DXO film , Nik software and couple more quality progs for RAW , can do really good and convincing B&W (or any film for that matter ) conversion results . Actually , even working in LR can bring some substantial visual change to your image .

I still stand by my point , that with (no so latest already) software , most of conditions can be cloned .

As for this photo as image , if not the shaky (hand held) bus (or what ever it is there) lights , it would be good enough . As it is now , and reading of how much you invested in taking this image ... for night shot , I would've bring tripod .

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RedFox88 wrote:

skanter wrote:

Yes, and this was it. You could make a good meteorologist, but first you'll have to recognize the difference between day and night.

Dude, and you should know that a blizzard would make day look like night. And if it were really a blizzard, you would not be able to see so far ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT as seen in your photo. A white out is just that - white which is what a blizzard would be.

"Dude", I suggest you continue in your studies of meteorology, where your skills lie, and give up understanding photography, where they don't.

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skanter wrote:

RedFox88 wrote:

skanter wrote:

Yes, and this was it. You could make a good meteorologist, but first you'll have to recognize the difference between day and night.

Dude, and you should know that a blizzard would make day look like night. And if it were really a blizzard, you would not be able to see so far ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT as seen in your photo. A white out is just that - white which is what a blizzard would be.

"Dude", I suggest you continue in your studies of meteorology, where your skills lie, and give up photography, where they don't.

Hi Sam,

This reminds me of one of my ex bosses saying: "That's impossible!" and I replied: "Well, it just happened".

Got another "guess the photographer" picture?

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Hi Dave, nice shots on your site.

Into wet plate? Check this out.

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Limburger wrote:

Hi Dave, nice shots on your site.

Into wet plate? Check this out.

Thanks for the link Mike!

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Limburger wrote:

skanter wrote:

RedFox88 wrote:

skanter wrote:

Yes, and this was it. You could make a good meteorologist, but first you'll have to recognize the difference between day and night.

Dude, and you should know that a blizzard would make day look like night. And if it were really a blizzard, you would not be able to see so far ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT as seen in your photo. A white out is just that - white which is what a blizzard would be.

"Dude", I suggest you continue in your studies of meteorology, where your skills lie, and give up photography, where they don't.

Hi Sam,

This reminds me of one of my ex bosses saying: "That's impossible!" and I replied: "Well, it just happened".

Got another "guess the photographer" picture?

Mike, I'm gonna cool it for a while...this thread was sufficient for now. Part of it is that I'm tired of dealing with clueless posters.

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Dave Luttmann wrote:

I couldn't agree more Sam. In fact, I did a write up on the whole issue of realism, emotion, and feeling on my blog here. I did a series of photos using Wet Plate Collodion to actually move away from technical purity and venture into the who arena of mood, feeling and emotion.

http://www.luttmannphotography.blogspot.ca/2013/10/emotional-narratives-and-low-fidelity.html

Dave, terrific work with the wet plates. I love your sensibility. I wish more people here would understand that photography (and all art) is about feeling, and that technique is just a way to get there.

Also loved that you opened your blog with a quote from Bill Evans. I'm a jazz pianist as well, and Evans is one of my heroes.

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skanter wrote:

Dave Luttmann wrote:

I couldn't agree more Sam. In fact, I did a write up on the whole issue of realism, emotion, and feeling on my blog here. I did a series of photos using Wet Plate Collodion to actually move away from technical purity and venture into the who arena of mood, feeling and emotion.

http://www.luttmannphotography.blogspot.ca/2013/10/emotional-narratives-and-low-fidelity.html

Dave, terrific work with the wet plates. I love your sensibility. I wish more people here would understand that photography (and all art) is about feeling, and that technique is just a way to get there.

Also loved that you opened your blog with a quote from Bill Evans. I'm a jazz pianist as well, and Evans is one of my heroes.

Thanks Sam.  Evans was a master of the trio.  I have many of his LPs including some of the 45rpm master recordings.  I would also agree that photography is about capturing a feeling.

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JulesJ wrote:

Akpinxit wrote:

The conditions and settings for this image is no brainier (although sarcasm some time still is) . The thing is , that while conducting your privet social experiment here , keep in mind , that beauty in photography field is subjective and in addition to two groups detected by you , there might be another one , which simply don't like the picture , nor from technical nor esthetical side .

Now days the line between fine art photography and P&S is very unclear.

Enjoying and appreciating an image requires education. The fact that some people can't understand or enjoy it is due to lack of education or experience. Of there is no wrong or right when it comes to art. But there is good and bad.

Yes. While there is certainly subjectivity in appreciation of art, there is a difference in not "liking" something and not "getting" it because of lack of education and experience, as you say, and ignorance. To look at a Picasso or a Monet and say "It doesn't look good", or to say a Charlie Parker solo has "too many notes" exhibits ignorance, not an opinion.

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This to me has the feeling of European war time documentary photography..... minus the bus !

I like it.

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Tee Dub wrote:

This to me has the feeling of European war time documentary photography..... minus the bus !

I like it.

...near midtown Manhattan, 2008. Glad you like it!

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