Apple Aperture - best X-Trans raw conversion

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d3xmeister Senior Member • Posts: 1,895
Apple Aperture - best X-Trans raw conversion

Any of you guys tried Apple Aperture for X-Trans raw conversion ?. It's mind blowing. Lightroom still have an edge in noise reduction at super high iso's, but the colors and the way Aperture renders the .raf files, it just looks incredible, better colors and tonal rendition of any camera I ever tested, including full frames.

Played with X-Trans files for quite some time, but after seeing Aperture rendering, I was left speachless, best looking images I ever saw from a digital camera.

I've became a Fuji fanatic over night :)) can't wait to get my hands on my XE-2

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Any of you guys tried Apple Aperture for X-Trans raw conversion ?. It's mind blowing. Lightroom still have an edge in noise reduction at super high iso's, but the colors and the way Aperture renders the .raf files, it just looks incredible, better colors and tonal rendition of any camera I ever tested, including full frames.

Played with X-Trans files for quite some time, but after seeing Aperture rendering, I was left speachless, best looking images I ever saw from a digital camera.

I've became a Fuji fanatic over night :)) can't wait to get my hands on my XE-2

Did you try iridient developer?

retro76 Regular Member • Posts: 215
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I switched from Lightroom to Aperture. Color and detail is so much better. I find Lightroom a bit 'digital' looking in its rendering and have a hard time getting attractive skin tones. I can cook a raw file in seconds in Aperture whereas it takes quite a bit of time to get attractive results in Lightroom IMHO.

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interesting...

i got my x-e2 yesterday (lovin me some amazon prime next day shipping!), and i'm using the latest ACR beta release to process raws.  it seems to do pretty well for the most part, except that it sometimes leaves the most garish magenta tone in shadow areas. i'm curious to see how aperture does with your x-e2 files.

if anyone else is using ACR with the x-e2 - have you noticed this phenomenon? it's easy enough to work around, but it's a little shocking, especially with skin tones (my 'new camera mirror selfie' looked like i'd reanimated a diseased corpse!).

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d3xmeister OP Senior Member • Posts: 1,895
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ACR is still in beta support for XE-2 and Aperture won't open them at all. A little patience, I'm sure they'll be fine.

For those of you who don't have Aperture, should try iPhoto,  I think they have the same engine.

I want every manufacturer to use Fuji sensors :))

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Al Valentino Senior Member • Posts: 4,744
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Aperture and Capture One seem to get the highest praise. Adobe seems to get the lowest for RAW. I went from ACR in CS6 to C1 7 Express for my RAWs (there was a sale for only $50)

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threeOh Regular Member • Posts: 325
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Funny you should ask today. I just walked away from about 100 images I imported the into Aperture. I was shooting r+j and I was once again reminded how the initial renders, with no presets, blow away the Provia jpeg's. More accurate color, more life like and additional detail you can easily see at perhaps 25% zoom with each image next to each other.

I was a long time Aperture who went to Lightroom before Apple supported XTrans. Have trialled most of the other apps. Combined with its excellent DAM and ease of use, I don't care if its renders are only very close to the best, its a very good post processing app. The editing module leaves a bit to be desired.

My jpeg useage has dropped from about 50% with Lightroom to practically nothing anymore and its unusual for the camera to be set for r+j.

Beat Traveller Contributing Member • Posts: 744
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d3xmeister wrote:

Any of you guys tried Apple Aperture for X-Trans raw conversion ?. It's mind blowing. Lightroom still have an edge in noise reduction at super high iso's, but the colors and the way Aperture renders the .raf files, it just looks incredible, better colors and tonal rendition of any camera I ever tested, including full frames.

Played with X-Trans files for quite some time, but after seeing Aperture rendering, I was left speachless, best looking images I ever saw from a digital camera.

I've became a Fuji fanatic over night :)) can't wait to get my hands on my XE-2

It does look better at default in terms of colour and contrast, as does Capture One. It's worth mentioning though that this is less of an issue with Lightroom's ability to handle RAF files, and more due to the fact that Lightroom just renders everything very conservatively at default, as DPR notes:

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/8219582047/raw-converter-showdown-capture-one-pro-7-dxo-optics-pro-8-and-lightroom-4/2

I use Lightroom for quickly processing most shots because I prefer its results at higher ISOs, because it runs faster than any other converter on my laptop, and because it has a very intuitive workflow. For low ISO shots I really want the best detail from, I run it through Photo Ninja.

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barba Regular Member • Posts: 108
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MostlyUnoriginal wrote:

interesting...

i got my x-e2 yesterday (lovin me some amazon prime next day shipping!), and i'm using the latest ACR beta release to process raws. it seems to do pretty well for the most part, except that it sometimes leaves the most garish magenta tone in shadow areas. i'm curious to see how aperture does with your x-e2 files.

if anyone else is using ACR with the x-e2 - have you noticed this phenomenon? it's easy enough to work around, but it's a little shocking, especially with skin tones (my 'new camera mirror selfie' looked like i'd reanimated a diseased corpse!).

Yes, it's discussed in this thread, "Fuji X-E2 image problems":

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3573583

Pär

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d3xmeister wrote:

ACR is still in beta support for XE-2 and Aperture won't open them at all. A little patience, I'm sure they'll be fine.

For those of you who don't have Aperture, should try iPhoto, I think they have the same engine.

I want every manufacturer to use Fuji sensors :))

So when you say,…. "For those of you who don't have Aperture, should try iPhoto, I think they have the same engine."….are you saying that I wouldn't need to pay for Aperture, that as long as my MacBook Pro has the iPhoto that that will work well enough or even the same as Aperture?

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Brond1 Regular Member • Posts: 325
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I think iPhoto and Aperture use the same raw developer. But iphoto is pretty basic in terms of other photo editing tools.. I use in emergency on my Air when I dont have my MacBook about.

Having tried CaptureOne .. if I didn't have Aperture already I would go for that. Aperture does nice job but there was something better, richer deeper colour in the C1. Also I get feeling C1 will update its software plus its raw capability re  Fuji new models faster than Aperture. I am not against Aperture but it was a bloody long wait before it would handle RAF files.

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Sal Baker Veteran Member • Posts: 9,581
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I used Aperture, went to LR 5, then tried Aperture for X-E1 RAW conversion.  Big difference with the nod going to Aperture.  RAW camera support is added in Mac OS updates which happen continuously.  X-E2 support should come soon.

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fluxism Contributing Member • Posts: 517
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I'd been using aperture and liking it, but at default settings it REALLY plugs up the shadows... something I realized even more since starting to use photo ninja, which I like a lot

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Caerolle Senior Member • Posts: 3,231
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"if anyone else is using ACR with the x-e2 - have you noticed this phenomenon?"

You mean other than the people who have been posting in the now 149-post thread over the last two days?  

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I wish for detail and noise control of Iridient, with the default color profile of Aperture. I really like the colors Aperture spits out, but it leaves too much color noise artifacts for my tastes.

Luckily, there's choices for specific photos, so I'm not too bothered.

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uniball Senior Member • Posts: 1,735
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No Regrets wrote:

d3xmeister wrote:

ACR is still in beta support for XE-2 and Aperture won't open them at all. A little patience, I'm sure they'll be fine.

For those of you who don't have Aperture, should try iPhoto, I think they have the same engine.

I want every manufacturer to use Fuji sensors :))

So when you say,…. "For those of you who don't have Aperture, should try iPhoto, I think they have the same engine."….are you saying that I wouldn't need to pay for Aperture, that as long as my MacBook Pro has the iPhoto that that will work well enough or even the same as Aperture?

Yes. And iPhoto is a pretty nice app as well. Not as extensive as Aperture but simple to use. Its been improved a lot over the years.  It can deal with referenced libraries now, if thats what you want.

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fluxism wrote:

I'd been using aperture and liking it, but at default settings it REALLY plugs up the shadows... something I realized even more since starting to use photo ninja, which I like a lot

Yes, that can happen when you're using auto dr. 200% really messes with the shadows, 400% replaces them with solid black.  If I'm using auto dr I pretty much assume I'll be using the jpeg's.

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Asylum Photo wrote:

I wish for detail and noise control of Iridient, with the default color profile of Aperture. I really like the colors Aperture spits out, but it leaves too much color noise artifacts for my tastes.

Luckily, there's choices for specific photos, so I'm not too bothered.

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Edit: Played around a bit with the Camera Advance tab, and the noise control on Iridient, and got it pretty close. Comment rescinded.

Now to figure out how to effectively reduce noise in specific channels (specifically reducing noise in blue skies... bane of my existence.

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fluxism Contributing Member • Posts: 517
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uniball wrote:

Yes, that can happen when you're using auto dr. 200% really messes with the shadows, 400% replaces them with solid black. If I'm using auto dr I pretty much assume I'll be using the jpeg's.

wow, that's great to know, thanks

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