GX7 without the EVF?

5-axis IBIS or any image stabilization system only minimizes camera shake. IBIS does not freeze subject movement so it's not nearly as useful as obtaining faster shutter speeds via increasing ISO. Since people here shoot a lot more than just static subjects I can't imagine why there is so much importance placed on 5-axis IBIS.

I generally don't buy any cameras without an eye-level VF or at least an accessory port for adding an EVF. The reason is not so much poor visibility of the LCD as it is my dislike of holding a camera with my arms extended in front me.  Shooting this way is one of the least stable ways of shooting so I generally avoid it.

The GX7 will come down in price, but for now I see it as one of the nicest, most interesting m43 cameras currently available.  The tilting LCD is going to be epic for macro shooting. And the GH3 level video capabilities and superb IQ in a smaller rangefinder-style casing are some of the most appealing aspects of the GX7.

So I can't imagine why people would want to change anything about the GX7. And especially the sacrificing of the tilting EVF, one of its most innovative features, for a mere $200 is truly a puzzling proposition.

Anyone who doesn't want an EVF can't really be serious about photography. Just continue to hold your camera at arms length, then complain about blurry pics.

Or maybe you constantly use a tripod.

You want one just to save a 200 bucks?

Owen

What nonsense!
With good technique one may get blur free images at arms length.
I shoot usong the EVF or the LCD depending on what's more appropriate for the angle of shot.
Restricting yourself to just using the EVF and disregarding any other way is pathetic and shows you have very little flexibility and imagonation in the way you shoot. Either that or you just sounded like that from your condescending remark.
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tron555 wrote:

jeffharris wrote:

tron555 wrote:

Who would buy the GX7 without the EVF for $200 less? Since some people do not want or require an EVF and would like a smaller/cheaper camera, wouldn't it be nice to have that option. I would rather have 5-axis image stabilization and weather sealing, IMHO.

Sounds like you want an EP5.

Not really, the EP-5 kit is even WAY over priced and suffers too much from Shutter Shock (according to many). It has almost No grip, too big and ugly, especially with the clip on EVF, confusing menu, etc, etc, etc…

EP-5 for $1,449 http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Olympus%20E-P5

VS

GX7 for $998 http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Panasonic%20LUMIX%20GX7

Once the price on the GX7 hits about $799 with the 12-32mm lens as a kit and the new 15mm lens it out, I will be taking a serious look at it. Hopefully the new Oly compact 35-100mm will be as good or better than the Pany one, what would make a great small/light 3 lens kit. IF there are no unforeseen issues with either camera or any of those new lenses of course.

1 - why would you compare the price of the EP5 w/ 17mm and the GX7 with 14-42mm, but not the GX7 w/ 20mm?

2 - how the EP5 functions with EVF is irrelevant in this context since from the beginning you were talking about NO EVF.

marike6 wrote:

5-axis IBIS or any image stabilization system only minimizes camera shake. IBIS does not freeze subject movement so it's not nearly as useful as obtaining faster shutter speeds via increasing ISO. Since people here shoot a lot more than just static subjects I can't imagine why there is so much importance placed on 5-axis IBIS.

I generally don't buy any cameras without an eye-level VF or at least an accessory port for adding an EVF. The reason is not so much poor visibility of the LCD as it is my dislike of holding a camera with my arms extended in front me. Shooting this way is one of the least stable ways of shooting so I generally avoid it.

The GX7 will come down in price, but for now I see it as one of the nicest, most interesting m43 cameras currently available. The tilting LCD is going to be epic for macro shooting. And the GH3 level video capabilities and superb IQ in a smaller rangefinder-style casing are some of the most appealing aspects of the GX7.

So I can't imagine why people would want to change anything about the GX7. And especially the sacrificing of the tilting EVF, one of its most innovative features, for a mere $200 is truly a puzzling proposition.

I've been very happy with my GX7… AS IS. It took me a bit of time to adjust to it, coming from a GH2, but it's build quality, handling and compactness are really great. Silent mode is amazing.

The tilting EVF is quite nice, especially with glasses… I push them down to the tip of my nose and position the EVF above them. Nice. I once "lost" a pair of glasses bushwhacking through the woods when I put them down on the ground while macro shooting and walked away! That was one expensive space-out! OUCH

The only downside for me is that I wish it had a fully articulated screen, since I shoot vertically quite a bit. Oh well, we can't get everything on our camera wish lists.

jeffharris wrote:

marike6 wrote:

5-axis IBIS or any image stabilization system only minimizes camera shake. IBIS does not freeze subject movement so it's not nearly as useful as obtaining faster shutter speeds via increasing ISO. Since people here shoot a lot more than just static subjects I can't imagine why there is so much importance placed on 5-axis IBIS.

I generally don't buy any cameras without an eye-level VF or at least an accessory port for adding an EVF. The reason is not so much poor visibility of the LCD as it is my dislike of holding a camera with my arms extended in front me. Shooting this way is one of the least stable ways of shooting so I generally avoid it.

The GX7 will come down in price, but for now I see it as one of the nicest, most interesting m43 cameras currently available. The tilting LCD is going to be epic for macro shooting. And the GH3 level video capabilities and superb IQ in a smaller rangefinder-style casing are some of the most appealing aspects of the GX7.

So I can't imagine why people would want to change anything about the GX7. And especially the sacrificing of the tilting EVF, one of its most innovative features, for a mere $200 is truly a puzzling proposition.

I've been very happy with my GX7… AS IS. It took me a bit of time to adjust to it, coming from a GH2, but it's build quality, handling and compactness are really great. Silent mode is amazing.

The tilting EVF is quite nice, especially with glasses… I push them down to the tip of my nose and position the EVF above them. Nice. I once "lost" a pair of glasses bushwhacking through the woods when I put them down on the ground while macro shooting and walked away! That was one expensive space-out! OUCH

The only downside for me is that I wish it had a fully articulated screen, since I shoot vertically quite a bit. Oh well, we can't get everything on our camera wish lists.

Great comments, I'm glad to hear you've been enjoying it.  Such a nice camera.  I do wish my X-E1 had video quality similar to the Panasonic GX7 and then it would for me be the perfect small mirrorless.

Owen wrote:

Anyone who doesn't want an EVF can't really be serious about photography. Just continue to hold your camera at arms length, then complain about blurry pics.

Or maybe you constantly use a tripod.

You want one just to save a 200 bucks?

Owen

Wow ...that is a really closed minded statement. Makes me feel better about my life and photography.