NSA even intecepted Merkel's private mobile phone!

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RobertSigmund
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Re: NSA even intecepted Merkel's private mobile phone!

René Schuster wrote:

RobertSigmund wrote:

René Schuster wrote:

Werderano wrote:

René Schuster wrote:

peevee1 wrote:

Werderano wrote:

Yes you americans are standing about every law,

Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying.

"Above" is what he meant to say, not "about". In German it would be the same word "über", no matter if it is in "talking über" (about) or "standing über" (above).

RS

Where did i had my head? Thank you, again.

Please-beautiful!

For Americans: The German translation of "You're welcome!" is "Bitteschön!". Now when I take that word apart and translate the single pieces, I have "Bitte" (= please) and "schön" (= beautiful), so "please-beautiful!"

No idea, but back in the sixties we had a President Heinrich Lübke, who was rather famous for his funny, incorrect English; "Please-beautiful" could have been one of his creations!

RS

His best quote is: "Ladies and gentlemen, dear negroes!"

"Equal goes it loose" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%BCbke_English

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_L%C3%BCbke

RS

"During my trip to Japan I also visited Okasa!"

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peevee1 Senior Member • Posts: 6,247
Re: NSA even intecepted Merkel's private mobile phone!

Werderano wrote:

René Schuster wrote:

peevee1 wrote:

Werderano wrote:

Yes you americans are standing about every law,

Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying.

"Above" is what he meant to say, not "about". In German it would be the same word "über", no matter if it is in "talking über" (about) or "standing über" (above).

RS

Where did i had my head? Thank you, again.

Don't worry about that, I appreciate your efforts of writing to me in a language I can understand.

LeRentier
LeRentier Forum Pro • Posts: 13,622
Re: NSA even intecepted Merkel's private mobile phone!

peevee1 wrote:

René Schuster wrote:

peevee1 wrote:

Werderano wrote:

Yes you americans are standing about every law,

Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying.

"Above" is what he meant to say, not "about". In German it would be the same word "über", no matter if it is in "talking über" (about) or "standing über" (above).

RS

Oh. But there are no international laws prohibiting spying (that would be ridiculous and unenforceable anyway because everybody does it, it is like laws prohibiting having armies), so there is nothing to stand above.

Yes, just as ridiculous as laws prohibiting nuclear weapons . . .

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peevee1 Senior Member • Posts: 6,247
Re: They learned she was ordering male prostitutes from an escort service

RobertSigmund wrote:

peevee1 wrote:

kixigvaq wrote:

Just joking. But it would be funny if they had tapes or her saying "Send up a man who is tall, muscular, and not too pretty. I feel like some rough sex tonight!"

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Abyssus abyssum invocat

If Russians or Chinese can have something on her which can change her actions, we (and German citizens first) should have the same on her too to understand her actions under pressure from adversaries and help to prevent them if necessary.

Seems some children of flowers here who don't understand how the world works at all.

Seems most Germans and most German politicians are children of flowers, because the indignation about the NSA behaviour is nearly 100 %.

Oh come on, Germans claiming moral superiority? Where is your hero like Snowden to tell the world what is your intelligence services are doing?

peevee1 Senior Member • Posts: 6,247
Re: In puncto Schröder we agree

Werderano wrote:

The rest about KGB is really funny but without any substance.

You are naive my friend.

But again you are still defending your MIC if you spinning over to my problems here in germany. Your MIC is not good for you and they will not help you to find partners in the future.

Sure. Only an idiot would argue with that.

peevee1 Senior Member • Posts: 6,247
Re: NSA even intecepted Merkel's private mobile phone!

RobertSigmund wrote:

Yes, and I, as a photographer, am the last person to contest this. Yet, significantly diminished does not mean zero. There still is a considerable privacy sphere even for a chancellor that has to be respected!

And it is whatever he/she can physically protect from spies, allied or enemy alike. Otherwise you are just giving advantage to the enemy.

peevee1 Senior Member • Posts: 6,247
Re: NSA even intecepted Merkel's private mobile phone!

Werderano wrote:

We need an agreement on an international level, something what is not thinkeble for you.

Dreaming about idillic world aside... So, are you finally on the side that no such agreement exists, and no crime against non-existing "international laws" was committed?

You thoughts about Merkels future gave me a smile. Overcome you fear, it will eat you from the inside. Good night.

Information is power, and keeping people in the dark about those who rule and their motives is counterproductive.

peevee1 Senior Member • Posts: 6,247
Re: NSA even intecepted Merkel's private mobile phone!

LeRentier wrote:

peevee1 wrote:

René Schuster wrote:

peevee1 wrote:

Werderano wrote:

Yes you americans are standing about every law,

Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying.

"Above" is what he meant to say, not "about". In German it would be the same word "über", no matter if it is in "talking über" (about) or "standing über" (above).

RS

Oh. But there are no international laws prohibiting spying (that would be ridiculous and unenforceable anyway because everybody does it, it is like laws prohibiting having armies), so there is nothing to stand above.

Yes, just as ridiculous as laws prohibiting nuclear weapons . . .

Yep.

kixigvaq
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I'm putting together my Halloween costume

I think I'll go as a Waffen SS colonel this year. SS officers wore uniforms made by Hugo Boss. Style while still instilling fear in the heart of the Jew!

I'd like to see the US totally out of Europe. They don't need us. We don't need to be there.

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papillon_65
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So are you trying to tell me...

Werderano wrote:

I guess we will never know or is here someone from the million that has access?

This is no fun anymore, Obama and Camron are losing every trust and respect in this world. And we shouldn´t forget what Snowden said first: "If i had the right emailadress, i could spy on everyone." So not only Politicians around the world should worry, also politicians in the US should wake up.

The first buisnesses realizing what this world wide watergate could mean for them in the future.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/nsa-surveillance-creeps-onto-techs-lobbying-agenda-98706.html?hp=r11

So i really hope you in the US start to see in how many ways these spying is a danger for yourself.

STOPWATCHING.US OCT 26
MILLIONMASKMARCH.ORG NOV 5

That Germany has no secret intelligence capability and does not monitor or "spy" on anyone else? because if you are, I'm having a bit of trouble believing that, especially as you'll have plenty of ex East German KGB experts in your midst.
I always love it when Politicians react with such moral indignation considering they all share the same cess pit.

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Re: If Jesus can listen to prayers.....

If Jesus can listen to prayers.....  Obama being the savior of the Democrats can certainly listen to phones.

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Brian

That's a big "if" because Jesus is a myth.

carizi
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Re: If Jesus can listen to prayers.....

mamallama wrote:

If Jesus can listen to prayers..... Obama being the savior of the Democrats can certainly listen to phones.

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Brian

That's a big "if" because Jesus is a myth.

Prove it.....

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Re: I'm putting together my Halloween costume

kixigvaq wrote:

I think I'll go as a Waffen SS colonel this year. SS officers wore uniforms made by Hugo Boss. Style while still instilling fear in the heart of the Jew!

I'd like to see the US totally out of Europe. They don't need us. We don't need to be there.

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I agree, US Go Home and let Alaska return to the Russian Empire.

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Werderano Senior Member • Posts: 4,333
Re: So are you trying to tell me...

papillon_65 wrote:

Werderano wrote:

I guess we will never know or is here someone from the million that has access?

This is no fun anymore, Obama and Camron are losing every trust and respect in this world. And we shouldn´t forget what Snowden said first: "If i had the right emailadress, i could spy on everyone." So not only Politicians around the world should worry, also politicians in the US should wake up.

The first buisnesses realizing what this world wide watergate could mean for them in the future.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/nsa-surveillance-creeps-onto-techs-lobbying-agenda-98706.html?hp=r11

So i really hope you in the US start to see in how many ways these spying is a danger for yourself.

STOPWATCHING.US OCT 26
MILLIONMASKMARCH.ORG NOV 5

That Germany has no secret intelligence capability and does not monitor or "spy" on anyone else? because if you are, I'm having a bit of trouble believing that, especially as you'll have plenty of ex East German KGB experts in your midst.
I always love it when Politicians react with such moral indignation considering they all share the same cess pit.

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667....neighbour of the beast.
Tony
http://the-random-photographer.blogspot.com/

Please Pap, don´t show that you can´t read and that you have no clue about history.

You couldn´t read because if so, you had read this thread before you try to p.... ,-)

And if you are informed about the BND, his history including the history of the NSA in my country you will notice that your post doesn´t make sence.

But i guess the EUSSR coursed your lowquality post.

I always love it when a wise man shows his real incisive, even if i didn´t asked for popcorn.

Everytime i´m hearing you speaking about EUSSR, immigration,.. i have the feeling you are speaking about Muskatnuss http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GkZFBmBYSM Go on.

papillon_65
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Re: So are you trying to tell me...

Werderano wrote:

papillon_65 wrote:

Werderano wrote:

I guess we will never know or is here someone from the million that has access?

This is no fun anymore, Obama and Camron are losing every trust and respect in this world. And we shouldn´t forget what Snowden said first: "If i had the right emailadress, i could spy on everyone." So not only Politicians around the world should worry, also politicians in the US should wake up.

The first buisnesses realizing what this world wide watergate could mean for them in the future.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/nsa-surveillance-creeps-onto-techs-lobbying-agenda-98706.html?hp=r11

So i really hope you in the US start to see in how many ways these spying is a danger for yourself.

STOPWATCHING.US OCT 26
MILLIONMASKMARCH.ORG NOV 5

That Germany has no secret intelligence capability and does not monitor or "spy" on anyone else? because if you are, I'm having a bit of trouble believing that, especially as you'll have plenty of ex East German KGB experts in your midst.
I always love it when Politicians react with such moral indignation considering they all share the same cess pit.

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667....neighbour of the beast.
Tony
http://the-random-photographer.blogspot.com/

Please Pap, don´t show that you can´t read and that you have no clue about history.

You couldn´t read because if so, you had read this thread before you try to p.... ,-)

And if you are informed about the BND, his history including the history of the NSA in my country you will notice that your post doesn´t make sence.

But i guess the EUSSR coursed your lowquality post.

I always love it when a wise man shows his real incisive, even if i didn´t asked for popcorn.

Everytime i´m hearing you speaking about EUSSR, immigration,.. i have the feeling you are speaking about Muskatnuss http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GkZFBmBYSM Go on.

So to summarise your inane ramblings you're saying no, Germany doesn't spy on anyone else then?

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Werderano Senior Member • Posts: 4,333
Re: So are you trying to tell me...

papillon_65 wrote:

Werderano wrote:

papillon_65 wrote:

Werderano wrote:

I guess we will never know or is here someone from the million that has access?

This is no fun anymore, Obama and Camron are losing every trust and respect in this world. And we shouldn´t forget what Snowden said first: "If i had the right emailadress, i could spy on everyone." So not only Politicians around the world should worry, also politicians in the US should wake up.

The first buisnesses realizing what this world wide watergate could mean for them in the future.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/nsa-surveillance-creeps-onto-techs-lobbying-agenda-98706.html?hp=r11

So i really hope you in the US start to see in how many ways these spying is a danger for yourself.

STOPWATCHING.US OCT 26
MILLIONMASKMARCH.ORG NOV 5

That Germany has no secret intelligence capability and does not monitor or "spy" on anyone else? because if you are, I'm having a bit of trouble believing that, especially as you'll have plenty of ex East German KGB experts in your midst.
I always love it when Politicians react with such moral indignation considering they all share the same cess pit.

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667....neighbour of the beast.
Tony
http://the-random-photographer.blogspot.com/

Please Pap, don´t show that you can´t read and that you have no clue about history.

You couldn´t read because if so, you had read this thread before you try to p.... ,-)

And if you are informed about the BND, his history including the history of the NSA in my country you will notice that your post doesn´t make sence.

But i guess the EUSSR coursed your lowquality post.

I always love it when a wise man shows his real incisive, even if i didn´t asked for popcorn.

Everytime i´m hearing you speaking about EUSSR, immigration,.. i have the feeling you are speaking about Muskatnuss http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GkZFBmBYSM Go on.

So to summarise your inane ramblings you're saying no, Germany doesn't spy on anyone else then?

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Tony
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Your reading skills are not well trained, maybe you can find the answer to you investigative question above.  And no i´m not going through this thread step by step with you even if you are old and i know you need help, because i have no time jet. So have a nice day.

papillon_65
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Re: So are you trying to tell me...

Werderano wrote:

papillon_65 wrote:

Werderano wrote:

papillon_65 wrote:

Werderano wrote:

I guess we will never know or is here someone from the million that has access?

This is no fun anymore, Obama and Camron are losing every trust and respect in this world. And we shouldn´t forget what Snowden said first: "If i had the right emailadress, i could spy on everyone." So not only Politicians around the world should worry, also politicians in the US should wake up.

The first buisnesses realizing what this world wide watergate could mean for them in the future.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/nsa-surveillance-creeps-onto-techs-lobbying-agenda-98706.html?hp=r11

So i really hope you in the US start to see in how many ways these spying is a danger for yourself.

STOPWATCHING.US OCT 26
MILLIONMASKMARCH.ORG NOV 5

That Germany has no secret intelligence capability and does not monitor or "spy" on anyone else? because if you are, I'm having a bit of trouble believing that, especially as you'll have plenty of ex East German KGB experts in your midst.
I always love it when Politicians react with such moral indignation considering they all share the same cess pit.

-- hide signature --

667....neighbour of the beast.
Tony
http://the-random-photographer.blogspot.com/

Please Pap, don´t show that you can´t read and that you have no clue about history.

You couldn´t read because if so, you had read this thread before you try to p.... ,-)

And if you are informed about the BND, his history including the history of the NSA in my country you will notice that your post doesn´t make sence.

But i guess the EUSSR coursed your lowquality post.

I always love it when a wise man shows his real incisive, even if i didn´t asked for popcorn.

Everytime i´m hearing you speaking about EUSSR, immigration,.. i have the feeling you are speaking about Muskatnuss http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GkZFBmBYSM Go on.

So to summarise your inane ramblings you're saying no, Germany doesn't spy on anyone else then?

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667....neighbour of the beast.
Tony
http://the-random-photographer.blogspot.com/

Your reading skills are not well trained, maybe you can find the answer to you investigative question above. And no i´m not going through this thread step by step with you even if you are old and i know you need help, because i have no time jet. So have a nice day.

So as per usual, no answer, thanks, it's pretty much what I expected.

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RobertSigmund
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Re: So are you trying to tell me...

papillon_65 wrote:

Werderano wrote:

papillon_65 wrote:

Werderano wrote:

papillon_65 wrote:

Werderano wrote:

I guess we will never know or is here someone from the million that has access?

This is no fun anymore, Obama and Camron are losing every trust and respect in this world. And we shouldn´t forget what Snowden said first: "If i had the right emailadress, i could spy on everyone." So not only Politicians around the world should worry, also politicians in the US should wake up.

The first buisnesses realizing what this world wide watergate could mean for them in the future.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/nsa-surveillance-creeps-onto-techs-lobbying-agenda-98706.html?hp=r11

So i really hope you in the US start to see in how many ways these spying is a danger for yourself.

STOPWATCHING.US OCT 26
MILLIONMASKMARCH.ORG NOV 5

That Germany has no secret intelligence capability and does not monitor or "spy" on anyone else? because if you are, I'm having a bit of trouble believing that, especially as you'll have plenty of ex East German KGB experts in your midst.
I always love it when Politicians react with such moral indignation considering they all share the same cess pit.

-- hide signature --

667....neighbour of the beast.
Tony
http://the-random-photographer.blogspot.com/

Please Pap, don´t show that you can´t read and that you have no clue about history.

You couldn´t read because if so, you had read this thread before you try to p.... ,-)

And if you are informed about the BND, his history including the history of the NSA in my country you will notice that your post doesn´t make sence.

But i guess the EUSSR coursed your lowquality post.

I always love it when a wise man shows his real incisive, even if i didn´t asked for popcorn.

Everytime i´m hearing you speaking about EUSSR, immigration,.. i have the feeling you are speaking about Muskatnuss http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GkZFBmBYSM Go on.

So to summarise your inane ramblings you're saying no, Germany doesn't spy on anyone else then?

-- hide signature --

667....neighbour of the beast.
Tony
http://the-random-photographer.blogspot.com/

Your reading skills are not well trained, maybe you can find the answer to you investigative question above. And no i´m not going through this thread step by step with you even if you are old and i know you need help, because i have no time jet. So have a nice day.

So as per usual, no answer, thanks, it's pretty much what I expected.

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667....neighbour of the beast.
Tony
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Papillon, dumb as always, wants to imply that it is OK to listen to the chancellor's private telephone conversations.

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papillon_65
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Re: So are you trying to tell me...

RobertSigmund wrote:

papillon_65 wrote:

Werderano wrote:

papillon_65 wrote:

Werderano wrote:

papillon_65 wrote:

Werderano wrote:

I guess we will never know or is here someone from the million that has access?

This is no fun anymore, Obama and Camron are losing every trust and respect in this world. And we shouldn´t forget what Snowden said first: "If i had the right emailadress, i could spy on everyone." So not only Politicians around the world should worry, also politicians in the US should wake up.

The first buisnesses realizing what this world wide watergate could mean for them in the future.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/nsa-surveillance-creeps-onto-techs-lobbying-agenda-98706.html?hp=r11

So i really hope you in the US start to see in how many ways these spying is a danger for yourself.

STOPWATCHING.US OCT 26
MILLIONMASKMARCH.ORG NOV 5

That Germany has no secret intelligence capability and does not monitor or "spy" on anyone else? because if you are, I'm having a bit of trouble believing that, especially as you'll have plenty of ex East German KGB experts in your midst.
I always love it when Politicians react with such moral indignation considering they all share the same cess pit.

-- hide signature --

667....neighbour of the beast.
Tony
http://the-random-photographer.blogspot.com/

Please Pap, don´t show that you can´t read and that you have no clue about history.

You couldn´t read because if so, you had read this thread before you try to p.... ,-)

And if you are informed about the BND, his history including the history of the NSA in my country you will notice that your post doesn´t make sence.

But i guess the EUSSR coursed your lowquality post.

I always love it when a wise man shows his real incisive, even if i didn´t asked for popcorn.

Everytime i´m hearing you speaking about EUSSR, immigration,.. i have the feeling you are speaking about Muskatnuss http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GkZFBmBYSM Go on.

So to summarise your inane ramblings you're saying no, Germany doesn't spy on anyone else then?

-- hide signature --

667....neighbour of the beast.
Tony
http://the-random-photographer.blogspot.com/

Your reading skills are not well trained, maybe you can find the answer to you investigative question above. And no i´m not going through this thread step by step with you even if you are old and i know you need help, because i have no time jet. So have a nice day.

So as per usual, no answer, thanks, it's pretty much what I expected.

-- hide signature --

667....neighbour of the beast.
Tony
http://the-random-photographer.blogspot.com/

Papillon, dumb as always, wants to imply that it is OK to listen to the chancellor's private telephone conversations.

Is there any chance that any German could actually answer the question? or are you just going to revert to type and obfuscate and insult to avoid the answer? Also could you point to where I said it was ok because I'd like to see that as well. It's a simple question, do Germans spy on other governments?

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Re: So are you trying to tell me...

papillon_65 wrote:

RobertSigmund wrote:

papillon_65 wrote:

Werderano wrote:

papillon_65 wrote:

Werderano wrote:

papillon_65 wrote:

Werderano wrote:

I guess we will never know or is here someone from the million that has access?

This is no fun anymore, Obama and Camron are losing every trust and respect in this world. And we shouldn´t forget what Snowden said first: "If i had the right emailadress, i could spy on everyone." So not only Politicians around the world should worry, also politicians in the US should wake up.

The first buisnesses realizing what this world wide watergate could mean for them in the future.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/nsa-surveillance-creeps-onto-techs-lobbying-agenda-98706.html?hp=r11

So i really hope you in the US start to see in how many ways these spying is a danger for yourself.

STOPWATCHING.US OCT 26
MILLIONMASKMARCH.ORG NOV 5

That Germany has no secret intelligence capability and does not monitor or "spy" on anyone else? because if you are, I'm having a bit of trouble believing that, especially as you'll have plenty of ex East German KGB experts in your midst.
I always love it when Politicians react with such moral indignation considering they all share the same cess pit.

-- hide signature --

667....neighbour of the beast.
Tony
http://the-random-photographer.blogspot.com/

Please Pap, don´t show that you can´t read and that you have no clue about history.

You couldn´t read because if so, you had read this thread before you try to p.... ,-)

And if you are informed about the BND, his history including the history of the NSA in my country you will notice that your post doesn´t make sence.

But i guess the EUSSR coursed your lowquality post.

I always love it when a wise man shows his real incisive, even if i didn´t asked for popcorn.

Everytime i´m hearing you speaking about EUSSR, immigration,.. i have the feeling you are speaking about Muskatnuss http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GkZFBmBYSM Go on.

So to summarise your inane ramblings you're saying no, Germany doesn't spy on anyone else then?

-- hide signature --

667....neighbour of the beast.
Tony
http://the-random-photographer.blogspot.com/

Your reading skills are not well trained, maybe you can find the answer to you investigative question above. And no i´m not going through this thread step by step with you even if you are old and i know you need help, because i have no time jet. So have a nice day.

So as per usual, no answer, thanks, it's pretty much what I expected.

-- hide signature --

667....neighbour of the beast.
Tony
http://the-random-photographer.blogspot.com/

Papillon, dumb as always, wants to imply that it is OK to listen to the chancellor's private telephone conversations.

Is there any chance that any German could actually answer the question? or are you just going to revert to type and obfuscate and insult to avoid the answer? Also could you point to where I said it was ok because I'd like to see that as well. It's a simple question, do Germans spy on other governments?

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667....neighbour of the beast.
Tony
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Last short answer again, read this thread you will find this difficult answer. It´s hard isn´t it? So before you ask question make sure the answer is not in front of you...
I can´t get anough from the new kids, here they perform in the US. Step by step part2.

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