Olympus Stylus1 24-300mm 1/1.7" sensor

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SHood Veteran Member • Posts: 4,645
Olympus Stylus1 24-300mm 1/1.7" sensor
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Olympus will announce this on Oct 29th.  No details yet on lens aperture although I think it might be a constant f2.8.  EVF seems quite large.  Price will be $600-700.

http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-first-images-of-the-olympus-stylus-1-the-mini-omd/

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Focal range

SHood wrote:

Olympus will announce this on Oct 29th. No details yet on lens aperture although I think it might be a constant f2.8. EVF seems quite large. Price will be $600-700.

http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-first-images-of-the-olympus-stylus-1-the-mini-omd/

Possibly 24-300mm focal range.

If it is, it would be amazing if they could get a constant aperture range however it may be variable.

cainn24 Senior Member • Posts: 4,890
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SHood wrote:

I think it might be a constant f2.8

Where did you hear that it might be a constant f/2.8?  That would be quite compelling, at least for people who are willing to sacrifice one stop at the wide end for the extra reach (thinking of XZ1/XZ-2 users here).

SHood OP Veteran Member • Posts: 4,645
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SHood wrote:

I think it might be a constant f2.8

Where did you hear that it might be a constant f/2.8?  That would be quite compelling, at least for people who are willing to sacrifice one stop at the wide end for the extra reach (thinking of XZ1/XZ-2 users here).

This came from a rumor a month ago.  Seems pretty accurate now.

http://www.43rumors.com/ft2-some-fake-olympus-high-end-compact-info/

This rumour about the compact camera with 4/3 is incorrect. The new compact will have the same size sensor as the XZ-2, it will however have a new lens, 28-300mm with a constant f2.8. Will  be announced in Oct

I also noticed a lens patent from a few months ago that shows a 4.4-67mm f2.4-f4.2 lens.  I am not sure if this is related to this announcement but it does look like we will be getting a fast lens.  This same link shows the patent for the next XZ-3 (6-24mm f1.4-f1.8).

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=it&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fegami.blog.so-net.ne.jp%2F2013-01-08

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the new UZI Re: Olympus Stylus1 24-300mm 1/1.7" sensor
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Finally after over a decade, an update to the ledgendary UZI ... C2100uz

cainn24 Senior Member • Posts: 4,890
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SHood wrote:

cainn24 wrote:

SHood wrote:

I think it might be a constant f2.8

Where did you hear that it might be a constant f/2.8? That would be quite compelling, at least for people who are willing to sacrifice one stop at the wide end for the extra reach (thinking of XZ1/XZ-2 users here).

This came from a rumor a month ago. Seems pretty accurate now.

http://www.43rumors.com/ft2-some-fake-olympus-high-end-compact-info/

This rumour about the compact camera with 4/3 is incorrect. The new compact will have the same size sensor as the XZ-2, it will however have a new lens, 28-300mm with a constant f2.8. Will be announced in Oct

Thanks for that.  Exciting stuff.

I also noticed a lens patent from a few months ago that shows a 4.4-67mm f2.4-f4.2 lens. I am not sure if this is related to this announcement but it does look like we will be getting a fast lens.

That sounds like a 20-300mm EFL, or thereabouts.  And given the actual FL, it's obviously for a compact as well.  But would they be releasing more than one with a 300mm reach?  If not, it will probably have the lens you've just mentioned.  Interesting.  A constant f/2.8 would be better though I think.

This same link shows the patent for the next XZ-3 (6-24mm f1.4-f1.8).

That's a little bit drool-worthy I think   Panasonic will have to step it up a notch to retain the enthusiast compact lens speed crown.

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jacketpotato wrote:

Finally after over a decade, an update to the ledgendary UZI ... C2100uz

You mean - it will use SmartMedia cards, have an underrated diode that stops the camera altogether, have only 2MP which discourages any cropping, needs a cable and a bracket to attach an external flash, and so on?

Many past and current pocket P&S jobs are more reliable, better specified, AND they permit enlargements AFTER cropping. I have the Stylus 9010 and the SZ-30MR.

I do keep museum pieces, like the C-990/D-490 and the SP-570UZ, for their excellent picture quality AT THE TIME (!!!), their continuing reliability - and because I consider it unethical to sell a camera for which the memory cards are no longer available. But the bragging rights for these have expired some time ago.

C-2100UZ - Rest In Pieces.

The Stylus 1 does look nice, and it does have a conventional hot shoe according to the photo.

But Sandra has stopped posing years ago, and her chores don't give me the time (or inclination) to look for another (female) model. This situation makes a new pocket P&S (SH-50 iHS) more desirable and practical - for which I have Sandra's go-ahead.

Henry

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Setter Dog Veteran Member • Posts: 4,726
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SHood wrote:

Olympus will announce this on Oct 29th. No details yet on lens aperture although I think it might be a constant f2.8. EVF seems quite large. Price will be $600-700.

http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-first-images-of-the-olympus-stylus-1-the-mini-omd/

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The picture certainly shows what seems to be a large EVF. I'm  not an Olympus user but I love the long zooms and hope they put some of the other features in this model instead of staying bare bones like Canon does. I'd like to see Panorama, HS HD video, good burst rates etc. Of course, a constant F2.8 lens would be wonderful.

I don't want much, do I?

Jack

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Great!

Wish to see more specs. Cant wait. (Nice to see even a crappy flash but anyway...)

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One can only hope that...

Olympus gets it right this time.  Having a miniature OMD look-alike may be a tall order.  After all, will be of a quality construction (i.e. magnesium body, very solid feel, metal knobs - as opposed to plastic - and an excellent lens system).  Will it have very fast and accurate AF and will it have excellent IQ characteristics (not having the smeary effects on the edges that Olympus super zoom models usually had in the past)?  These are all "if's" that should be asked.

Right now, it's obvious that the Sony RX10 has set the tone.  Of course, no one has seen the IQ capabilities of that camera, but I would imagine that high ISO scenarios will be superb with that model.  But damnnnnnnnn - $1299 USD is quite a bit of change from "just" a 24-200 model.  So I'm betting that within 6 months or so, the price will come down.

I held off getting the XZ-2 because I was very satisfied with the XZ-1.  But if this new Stylus 1 doesn't come looking like a cheap toy imitation of the OMD, and if it has superb IQ characteristics and greatly improved speed, it may very well be a great seller.

But in the end, as I've often mentioned, Olympus doesn't always listen to it's users - at least not when it comes to small P&S digicams.  I am hoping this Stylus 1 winds up be a head turner in more ways than one.

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Steven Wandy Veteran Member • Posts: 5,241
Those were my thoughts Ben

I did "upgrade" from the XZ-1 to the XZ-2 and really like it. But this camera - assuming the IQ is near or better than the XZ-2 is a very intriguing replacement. Though I will admit that I preferred the size of the original XZ-1 to the 2 and this looks like it will be bigger yet.

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Setter Dog Veteran Member • Posts: 4,726
Re: One can only hope that...

Ben Herrmann wrote:

Right now, it's obvious that the Sony RX10 has set the tone. Of course, no one has seen the IQ capabilities of that camera, but I would imagine that high ISO scenarios will be superb with that model. But damnnnnnnnn - $1299 USD is quite a bit of change from "just" a 24-200 model. So I'm betting that within 6 months or so, the price will come down.

Yes, that's a lot of bucks. I'm sort of turned off by the lack of reach of the lens. To me, the Stylus 1 looks like a better all around camera, especially if it includes nice features such as fast burst. HS HD video, Panorama, etc.

Jack


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Setter Dog wrote:

Ben Herrmann wrote:

Right now, it's obvious that the Sony RX10 has set the tone. Of course, no one has seen the IQ capabilities of that camera, but I would imagine that high ISO scenarios will be superb with that model. But damnnnnnnnn - $1299 USD is quite a bit of change from "just" a 24-200 model. So I'm betting that within 6 months or so, the price will come down.

Yes, that's a lot of bucks. I'm sort of turned off by the lack of reach of the lens. To me, the Stylus 1 looks like a better all around camera, especially if it includes nice features such as fast burst. HS HD video, Panorama, etc.

Jack

The price on the RX10 is just nutty. Several hundred higher than the aps-c R1 on its release, even after considering inflation. A nice camera, I'm sure, but they won't sell many.

I think the slight IQ increase of a 1/1.7" sensor over the typical bridge cameras, combined with the fast lens (which again most long zooms don't have, FZ200 aside), will be a good combo for a reasonably sized and priced camera that can give pretty good results in a range of situations.

Can't wait to see what this model really turns out to be.

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Re: One can only hope that...

"Can't wait to see what this model really turns out to be."

Never as good as you're expecting.  

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VaLeX Senior Member • Posts: 1,067
Re: One can only hope that...

Ben Herrmann wrote:

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Right now, it's obvious that the Sony RX10 has set the tone. Of course, no one has seen the IQ capabilities of that camera, but I would imagine that high ISO scenarios will be superb with that model.

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Indeed, the new term of comparison is the Sony RX10. As long as Oly sticks to the 1 1/7 sensor, they will have a hard time in providing similar image quality at high ISO. So, a 24-300 zoom (which seems not to be constant F 2.8, if the patent is to be trusted) is not the right answer to the Sony RX10. The proper reaction would be a sophisticated compact with a very bright lens - i.e. the 28-112 F1.4-F1.8 (which is almost a constant aperture, mind you).
On the other hand the Sony RX10 is quite expensive; even if it will come about 900USD in 6 month, (which I doubt) - that is still expensive. But Oly is not that cheap either, An ZX 2 + evf goes to ~ 670 USD now. The shear size of the  1' sensor would make a good case for paying the extra-price for the Sony!

Oh, and keep the resolution on the next 1 1/7 sensor, don't increase it, Oly!

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Re: One can only hope that...

The spec. of the RX10 is indeed exciting, with one glaring exception - it's weight - 870gm I think I read - the downside of trying to put a long lens on a 1" sensor. I am a fairly satisfied FZ200 owner, getting older and frailer, who already finds it's 580 gm a bit too much. Although an amazingly versatile machine, I could do with a bit more IQ - especially for portraits.

SO......I'm hoping this new Oly Stylus will be heading down towards 400 gm or less with the larger sensor providing that little bit of better IQ I'm looking for. Constant f2.8 would indeed be nice to have, but will increase the weight, so perhaps a compromise of, say, f4 at the long end would suit me.

I'm greatly looking forward to the 29th.

Ray

John McCormack Veteran Member • Posts: 5,159
Re: One can only hope that...

I'm betting against a constant f/2.8 aperture, but will be happy if it is. The camera is butt ugly, IMO, but if the IQ and specs. are good it may sell well.

Birders will not be interested in a focal length that stops at 300mm. The Panny FZ200 still rules in the fast lens superzoom dept.

theranman Veteran Member • Posts: 4,223
Re: One can only hope that...

"Butt ugly" is an understatement, however I'll highly tempted if the aperture is good. It seems to check almost all of the other boxes, but I'm a little skeptical because it's an Oly.

cainn24 Senior Member • Posts: 4,890
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theranman wrote:

"Butt ugly" is an understatement, however I'll highly tempted if the aperture is good. It seems to check almost all of the other boxes, but I'm a little skeptical because it's an Oly.

Ugly?  I think it looks awesome.  Would be even awesomer [sic] if there was a classic silver/black option, like the E-M5.

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SHood wrote:

Olympus will announce this on Oct 29th. No details yet on lens aperture although I think it might be a constant f2.8. EVF seems quite large. Price will be $600-700.

I wish it weren't so, but my money says the lens will be no better than f:4.9 at the long end, probably even darker than that.

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