Is there anyone who update from NX1000 to NX300? Is this update valuable?

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giliath Regular Member • Posts: 257
Is there anyone who update from NX1000 to NX300? Is this update valuable?

Hi, I'm a NX1000 user now. I am wondering if it is necessay to update to NX300? Does the image quality improved a lot? (I only use RAW, so I don't care about the improvement of JPEG engine, and I don't need Phase Detection)

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Re: Is there anyone who update from NX1000 to NX300? Is this update valuable?

I upgraded from nx200, which is basically same as nx1000. The nx300 for me is much better than nx200. Quite faster in operations, tiltable display and valuable touch operations (especially to change focus point, touch to focus, touch to shoot). Focus peaking is also a very nice addition.

Unfortunately nx300 has an awfully tiny buffer for raw files, even smaller than nx200, which makes its continuous shooting practically unuseful.

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giliath OP Regular Member • Posts: 257
Re: Is there anyone who update from NX1000 to NX300? Is this update valuable?

tecnoworld wrote:

I upgraded from nx200, which is basically same as nx1000. The nx300 for me is much better than nx200. Quite faster in operations, tiltable display and valuable touch operations (especially to change focus point, touch to focus, touch to shoot). Focus peaking is also a very nice addition.

Unfortunately nx300 has an awfully tiny buffer for raw files, even smaller than nx200, which makes its continuous shooting practically unuseful.

It seems the operation improves. But does the image quality changes a lot? (as they use nearly the same sensor). If the image quality is nearly the same (raw), maybe I'll keep using NX1000, because I really don't like to sell something on ebay or amazon:-x

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Re: Is there anyone who update from NX1000 to NX300? Is this update valuable?

I actually noticed better raw iq in nx300 compared to nx200. Say 1/3 to 1/2 stop better from iso 1600 up. Virtually no color noise up to iso 3200, where it was present in nx200.

Not a groundbreaking advance, though.

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giliath OP Regular Member • Posts: 257
Re: Is there anyone who update from NX1000 to NX300? Is this update valuable?

tecnoworld wrote:

I actually noticed better raw iq in nx300 compared to nx200. Say 1/3 to 1/2 stop better from iso 1600 up. Virtually no color noise up to iso 3200, where it was present in nx200.

Not a groundbreaking advance, though.

Mmmm, better iso, maybe I'll update if I can find a bargain. Thank you.

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jennyrae Senior Member • Posts: 2,690
Re: Is there anyone who update from NX1000 to NX300? Is this update valuable?

try nx300. then decide if update is valuable for you.

arbuz Senior Member • Posts: 2,247
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If this is only about IQ then I would say improvement is not big. However besides small improvement in noise intensity (as other said, 1/2EV on ISO 3200) there is great and welcome change in noise structure. ISO 3200 in very poor lightniig looks much better because there is no chroma noise (red dots, green patterns etc) - all we see is are small grey dots that don't obscure color or details. Just because of this I have no hesitation to shoot at ISO 3200 or even 6400 and the image looks very good to my eyes, with little need to denoise. In NX20 or NX1000 (I have them both) ISO 1600 was a comfortable limit with ISO 3200 as a compromise (still not bad though) that would make good use of some denoising process.

Besides I find NX300 as much more confortable camera to handle (to pick a few)

- it has upper wheel which helps adjusting settings quickly

- touch screen to focus in any point of the screen is a functionality I use a lot

- camera is faster and more responsive

- write times on SD card are much better (ca 1s on quality but not the best card) and RAW files are smaller (ca 44 -> 23MB). Faster write times - no more or very much reducted "processing" blackout

You need to evaluate by yourself.

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arbuz Senior Member • Posts: 2,247
Re: Is there anyone who update from NX1000 to NX300? Is this update valuable?

Omn the file size I mean 33 to 23. It was 40+ before a number of firmware upgrades.

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giliath OP Regular Member • Posts: 257
Re: Is there anyone who update from NX1000 to NX300? Is this update valuable?

arbuz wrote:

Omn the file size I mean 33 to 23. It was 40+ before a number of firmware upgrades.

Thank you for your information. The biggest problem is it seems hard to sell my NX1000 for ideal price.:-(

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Re: Is there anyone who update from NX1000 to NX300? Is this update valuable?

Yes, that's a problem with nx. I wasn't able to sell the nx200.

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giliath OP Regular Member • Posts: 257
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tecnoworld wrote:

Yes, that's a problem with nx. I wasn't able to sell the nx200.

So sad, if I can't sell my NX1000, NX300 will be too expensive for me. Maybe use the money to buy another lens will be a better choice. I always take a mini tripods with me anyway, so perhaps high iso is not that necessary for me.:-(

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arbuz Senior Member • Posts: 2,247
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giliath wrote:

arbuz wrote:

Omn the file size I mean 33 to 23. It was 40+ before a number of firmware upgrades.

Thank you for your information. The biggest problem is it seems hard to sell my NX1000 for ideal price.:-(

Yes, it's very cheap now. Perfect fo someone on low budget. Not so good if trying to sell... I will be selling mine anyway, as it will not increase in value over time

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Re: Is there anyone who update from NX1000 to NX300? Is this update valuable?

Till now, the nx300 is keeping the price much better than its predecessors, since had much better sales.

I bought it more than 5 months ago at 570€ in Italy, now I'd spend about 60€ less. Not a big difference.

In the usa it's a bit cheaper.

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giliath OP Regular Member • Posts: 257
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How will you sell it? On ebay? seems ebay will charge a lot for selling something:(

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giliath OP Regular Member • Posts: 257
Re: Is there anyone who update from NX1000 to NX300? Is this update valuable?

Till now, the nx300 is keeping the price much better than its predecessors, since had much better sales.

I bought it more than 5 months ago at 570€ in Italy, now I'd spend about 60€ less. Not a big difference.

In the usa it's a bit cheaper.

Maybe I will try to find a friend who will go to USA during the Christmas.⊙_⊙

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arbuz Senior Member • Posts: 2,247
Re: Is there anyone who update from NX1000 to NX300? Is this update valuable?

giliath wrote:

How will you sell it? On ebay? seems ebay will charge a lot for selling something:(

I don't know yet. I can try local forums or sites like gumtree. In the end the difference between ebay and such site won't be significant as the price I can get is bot big anyway.

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giliath OP Regular Member • Posts: 257
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I've just bought NX300+45MM 3d, for £415. Thanks for everybody who gave me advice.

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Re: Is there anyone who update from NX1000 to NX300? Is this update valuable?

Great news and gorgeous deal. Please post your opinions asap!

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marks123 Regular Member • Posts: 105
Re: Is there anyone who update from NX1000 to NX300? Is this update valuable?

That's a great deal you got there, care to let us know where from.

giliath OP Regular Member • Posts: 257
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tecnoworld wrote:

Great news and gorgeous deal. Please post your opinions asap!

It hasn't been dispatched yet. I hope I can enjoy it very soon.:-)

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