Will the image quality of the A65 considerably improve...

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bobbidog Contributing Member • Posts: 893
Will the image quality of the A65 considerably improve...

... when mounting a better lens?

I just had the opportunity to purchase an A65 for a really good price.
But clearly the kit lens (although the 18-55 II) was part of the package.

Now i ordered the Sony 16-50 f/2.8 and really do hope that this lens
will help to improve the image quality. I do shoot RAW exclusively, was
assured to buy the A65 not least because of the dpr-statement "rewarded
with results that are close to what we've seen from high-end full-frame cameras
such as the Canon EOS 5D Mark II or Sony's own Alpha 900."

Up to now (with the kit lens) i am rather disappointed in terms of IQ produced
by the A65. Details look mushy and flat, sharpness is far from being impressive.

Can anybody brighten up my mind by telling me that the A65's IQ will improve
when using the Sony 16-50 f/2.8 lens?

Thank you very much for any kind of help.

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BrewLab
BrewLab Contributing Member • Posts: 639
Re: Will the image quality of the A65 considerably improve...

Put simply....yes.

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bobbidog OP Contributing Member • Posts: 893
Re: Will the image quality of the A65 considerably improve...

BrewLab, your statement raises hope
Thank you.

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Samsolar Senior Member • Posts: 2,214
Re: Will the image quality of the A65 considerably improve...

Yes and as you use the camera more the better you will get at it.

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tjstyphon1
tjstyphon1 Regular Member • Posts: 131
Re: Will the image quality of the A65 considerably improve...

Yes, the 16-50 is leaps and bounds better than the kit lens. You won't be disappointed

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sybersitizen Veteran Member • Posts: 6,193
Re: Will the image quality of the A65 considerably improve...

bobbidog wrote:

Can anybody brighten up my mind by telling me that the A65's IQ will improve
when using the Sony 16-50 f/2.8 lens?

People can tell you many things. But soon you'll have both lenses and you can shoot your own direct comparisons, then show us what the difference is.

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sensibill
sensibill Veteran Member • Posts: 5,401
The capacity for better, but it's not automatic.
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Whether you realize the greater optic capability of a superior lens depends on your picture taking.

The A65 with even the basic kit lens ought to be able to produce excellent quality images. Learning to work with the sensor and camera traits and squeeze the best the rig is capable of will only come with time, reading and taking lots of trial and error pictures.

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bobbidog OP Contributing Member • Posts: 893
Re: Will the image quality of the A65 considerably improve...

Samsolar, thank you very much for your answer.
I had the A57 before and still do have my Canon 6D for
"low light work". So i kind of know the behaviour of the A65.
I am really looking forward to comparing the IQ between the
kit lens and the recently ordered Sony 16-50 f/2.8. I'll let you know
about my findings as soon as i have the opportunity to do
a side by side comparison.

Thanks again.

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bobbidog OP Contributing Member • Posts: 893
Re: Will the image quality of the A65 considerably improve...

tjstyphon, i am relieved to hear that and looking forward to testing the
new lens. Hope it will arrive soon.
Thank you for your answer!

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bobbidog OP Contributing Member • Posts: 893
Re: Will the image quality of the A65 considerably improve...

sybersitizen, this is exactly what i am going to do.
I 'll report about my findings as soon as i get the new lens.
Thank you.

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bobbidog OP Contributing Member • Posts: 893
Re: The capacity for better, but it's not automatic.

sensibill, i had a lot of cameras already and for sure i am no fanboy
and "addicted" to a special brand.
I had Nikon, still have Canon, Olympus and of course Sony equipment.
But, to be honest, the kit lens of the A65 (at least mine) doesn't do wonders.
I remember the Nikon 18-105 as a kit lens on my D5000 years ago - that
was a great lens. Also the kit lens on the Oly OMD (12-50) is a great
piece of engineering.

I am a pixel peeper - yes. Therefore i look at my files at a 100% 1:1 view
on my calibrated screen. By doing so i compare the characteristics of data
handling done by the different cameras and compare them. I must say -
IQ of my previous A57 was definitely better (well - with the Sony 18-135)
than it is with the A65's kit lens. Clearly - the 18-135 is the better lens.

So i'll wait for the Sony 16-50 to arrive. I'll post my conclusion as soon as i have
the new lens.

Thank you all for your comments!

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NPPhoto Senior Member • Posts: 1,084
Yes and No...
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The new kit "II" is supposedly much better than the old kit lens. The 16-50mm is built differently and open up to f2.8 and has better glass overall. However, you will be disappointed if you expect day and night difference between both those lenses.

In perfect shooting conditions, say at f5.6-f8, you will get very good results with the kit lens. Since the A65 supports lens correction, you would not have to worry about CA, etc.

In low light conditions, the 16-50mm will shine and you'll get the advantage of a faster lens.

bobbidog wrote:

... when mounting a better lens?

I just had the opportunity to purchase an A65 for a really good price.
But clearly the kit lens (although the 18-55 II) was part of the package.

Now i ordered the Sony 16-50 f/2.8 and really do hope that this lens
will help to improve the image quality. I do shoot RAW exclusively, was
assured to buy the A65 not least because of the dpr-statement "rewarded
with results that are close to what we've seen from high-end full-frame cameras
such as the Canon EOS 5D Mark II or Sony's own Alpha 900."

Up to now (with the kit lens) i am rather disappointed in terms of IQ produced
by the A65. Details look mushy and flat, sharpness is far from being impressive.

Can anybody brighten up my mind by telling me that the A65's IQ will improve
when using the Sony 16-50 f/2.8 lens?

Thank you very much for any kind of help.

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Mark K
Mark K Veteran Member • Posts: 5,297
Re: Will the image quality of the A65 considerably improve...

bobbidog wrote:

... when mounting a better lens?

I just had the opportunity to purchase an A65 for a really good price.
But clearly the kit lens (although the 18-55 II) was part of the package.

Now i ordered the Sony 16-50 f/2.8 and really do hope that this lens
will help to improve the image quality. I do shoot RAW exclusively, was
assured to buy the A65 not least because of the dpr-statement "rewarded
with results that are close to what we've seen from high-end full-frame cameras
such as the Canon EOS 5D Mark II or Sony's own Alpha 900."

Up to now (with the kit lens) i am rather disappointed in terms of IQ produced
by the A65. Details look mushy and flat, sharpness is far from being impressive.

Can anybody brighten up my mind by telling me that the A65's IQ will improve
when using the Sony 16-50 f/2.8 lens?

Thank you very much for any kind of help.

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I am too late to see this...if Sigma produces 18-35/2.8 for Sony, then this is a better lens

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seilerbird666
seilerbird666 Senior Member • Posts: 1,101
No
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There are many factors that determine how sharp a photo is. The lens is only one small component of those factors. Shutter speed, image stabilization, how well you can hold the camera, your post processing skills are some of the major factors. If you want sharper photos start shooting at 1/1000th of a second or faster. Lenses were tack sharp back in the 30s when Ansel Adams was in his prime. Lenses have not improved much at all since then.

I see people wasting their time doing unscientific tests comparing one lens to another and it is all hogwash. How about looking at a photo and try and tell me how expensive the lens that took the photo is? You won't be able to do it.

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gftphoto Regular Member • Posts: 172
Re: Will the image quality of the A65 considerably improve...

Interesting thread. I have the sense that the A65 is a very underrated camera. With the right lens it should produce crackerjack images.

craig66 Contributing Member • Posts: 969
Re: Will the image quality of the A65 considerably improve...
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I replaced the 18-55 (Mark I) kit lens with a Tamron 17-50 f2.8 for use on my A65. The Tamron is a little sharper, and of course significantly faster, but the most noticeable improvement that I observed was the improved colour and contrast with the Tamron. Sharpness (as measured by resolution tests) is not the only consideration.

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Brian_Smith
Brian_Smith Senior Member • Posts: 2,627
Re: Will the image quality of the A65 considerably improve...
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bobbidog wrote:

... when mounting a better lens?

Hell yes.

Buy good glass.

You'll never be sorry...

james2k50
james2k50 Contributing Member • Posts: 572
Re: Will the image quality of the A65 considerably improve...

bobbidog wrote:

... when mounting a better lens?

I just had the opportunity to purchase an A65 for a really good price.
But clearly the kit lens (although the 18-55 II) was part of the package.

Now i ordered the Sony 16-50 f/2.8 and really do hope that this lens
will help to improve the image quality. I do shoot RAW exclusively, was
assured to buy the A65 not least because of the dpr-statement "rewarded
with results that are close to what we've seen from high-end full-frame cameras
such as the Canon EOS 5D Mark II or Sony's own Alpha 900."

Up to now (with the kit lens) i am rather disappointed in terms of IQ produced
by the A65. Details look mushy and flat, sharpness is far from being impressive.

Can anybody brighten up my mind by telling me that the A65's IQ will improve
when using the Sony 16-50 f/2.8 lens?

Thank you very much for any kind of help.

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Well I didn't read this whole thread but I'm impressed. Most of my work can be found on my Flickr feed below. Lenses I use are the Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 constant apreture lens for landscape and Sigma 70-300mm APO for the telephoto...

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L R Harner Regular Member • Posts: 239
Re: Will the image quality of the A65 considerably improve...

i remember renting the 16-80Z and hoping it was more hype then anything but it was so dam good compared to my kit lens that i had to start saving to make sure i got one for keeps.  while not the 16-50 2.8f i think you ll see that good glass is worth every penny you spend .

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bobbidog OP Contributing Member • Posts: 893
Re: Yes and No...

Nick, thank you very much for your comments.
I've been out today with the new A65, catching some rays of sun
to see if IQ improves. And yes, apparently the A65 needs good/strong
light. However still details are quite mushy and i am curious to compare
my image findings when the 16-50 f/2.8 arrives.

I'll leave the A65 at ISO 100 and use it as a "good weather cam".
While doing some tests i can confirm the A65 gets significantly noisy
when pumping up ISO. So if there is insufficient light i'll go for my 6D.

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