I never thought I would miss Jimmy Carter...

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Wheatfield
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Re: I never thought I would miss Jimmy Carter...

Roger99 wrote:

rb59020 wrote:

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"Former President Jimmy Carter said Monday that if he were back in the White House, he would work with Republicans and Democrats to secure more funding for affordable housing and urge more flexibility in resolving differences involving the critical issue."

Do you really think the Tea Party nutters would be a part of that kind of strategy. They aren't looking for compromise. They are just out to humiliate the Obama Whitehouse. Nothing more, nothing less. Jimmy wasn't a bad old sod but didn't he learn anything from the Iranian thing. Try to do the right thing by the Republicans and they will steal your wallet while your back is turned.

"I would work as harmoniously as I could with other members of the Congress, and with both Democrats and Republicans, to figure out how we can face a time of great deficits."

They are not the same GOP as in Jimmies day. Give in to them and they will just find more ways to strangle the government.

Not exactly from the Obama playbook.

Obama is doing exactly the right thing. You don't negotiate with terrorists.

I never thought I would miss Ronnie Raygun. He'd be ashamed of the party he led if he saw it today.

Raygun would be branded a communist and would be chased out of the repulitard party today. This is how stupid the republitard party has become.

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Wheatfield wrote:

Roger99 wrote:

rb59020 wrote:

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"Former President Jimmy Carter said Monday that if he were back in the White House, he would work with Republicans and Democrats to secure more funding for affordable housing and urge more flexibility in resolving differences involving the critical issue."

Do you really think the Tea Party nutters would be a part of that kind of strategy. They aren't looking for compromise. They are just out to humiliate the Obama Whitehouse. Nothing more, nothing less. Jimmy wasn't a bad old sod but didn't he learn anything from the Iranian thing. Try to do the right thing by the Republicans and they will steal your wallet while your back is turned.

"I would work as harmoniously as I could with other members of the Congress, and with both Democrats and Republicans, to figure out how we can face a time of great deficits."

They are not the same GOP as in Jimmies day. Give in to them and they will just find more ways to strangle the government.

Not exactly from the Obama playbook.

Obama is doing exactly the right thing. You don't negotiate with terrorists.

I never thought I would miss Ronnie Raygun. He'd be ashamed of the party he led if he saw it today.

Raygun would be branded a communist and would be chased out of the repulitard party today. This is how stupid the republitard party has become.

I agree.  A dysfunctional group of old white Christians and ignorant rednecks doing the bidding for the 1% thinking they can resurrect the America of the 50's and 60's.

Bob

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lylejk wrote:

Carter's just finally greatful that he won't be remembered as the worse president ever now. He can now rest in peace.

True as that honor will remain with W for decades without doubt.

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john9001 wrote:

The government borrows 40 cents of every dollars it spends, how long do you think that can go on? The tea party people were elected to end that, they have sent bill after bill to the senate and Reid has never brought them up for a vote. This country has not had a budget for six years just "continuing resulalution", that allows the govt to keep spending more and more .

The govt is "printing" $85 billion a month with no plans to end it. Obama said he would Transform America, and he is on his way to do it. But, transform america into what? Another bankrupt socialist falure?

What "bankrupt socialist failures" might you be referring to?

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I didn't care about W that much either, but you obviously weren't born when Carter was potus.   JC was the worse thing to have ever happened to our country and I became a Republican solely because of him (no longer a Republican; just a conservative now).    BO's even worse the JC; trust me.   Let's just hope there's a cause like Housing for Humanity for BO when he gets out.   Then he too can be a better former potus then a potus.  

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lylejk wrote:

I didn't care about W that much either, but you obviously weren't born when Carter was potus. JC was the worse thing to have ever happened to our country and I became a Republican solely because of him (no longer a Republican; just a conservative now). BO's even worse the JC; trust me. Let's just hope there's a cause like Housing for Humanity for BO when he gets out. Then he too can be a better former potus then a potus.

As usual I find your World more than a bit delusional.

BTW I'm 60.

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And yours absurd.   To each his own. 

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rwbaron wrote:

Wheatfield wrote:

Raygun would be branded a communist and would be chased out of the repulitard party today. This is how stupid the republitard party has become.

I agree. A dysfunctional group of old white Christians and ignorant rednecks doing the bidding for the 1% thinking they can resurrect the America of the 50's and 60's.

Bob

I don't think it is anything to do with resurrecting America.  I don't think they care about America at all except as a place to spend the petty cash.  This is all just about keeping the 1% as the 1%.  Any selling of American ideals is just about keeping the sheep baying in unison.

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Re: I never thought I would miss Jimmy Carter...

Roger99 wrote:

rwbaron wrote:

Wheatfield wrote:

Raygun would be branded a communist and would be chased out of the repulitard party today. This is how stupid the republitard party has become.

I agree. A dysfunctional group of old white Christians and ignorant rednecks doing the bidding for the 1% thinking they can resurrect the America of the 50's and 60's.

Bob

I don't think it is anything to do with resurrecting America. I don't think they care about America at all except as a place to spend the petty cash. This is all just about keeping the 1% as the 1%. Any selling of American ideals is just about keeping the sheep baying in unison.

I don't disagree regarding the 1%.  It's the old white Christians and rednecks who think they're fighting for the America they once knew (or thought they knew) and that's part of how the 1% gets them to do their bidding.  Some see it as an effective strategy but I think it's backfiring and has the potential to fracture the Republican party into segments that will be less powerful and influential.  They'll keep a certain number of seats in the House through gerrymandered districts but will turn off Independents which ultimately will lose the majority position for them.  I believe the party elite and powerbrokers are deeply concerned about this.  They know they need a moderate position to stay in power.

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Democrats predominate among those with no High School Diploma....

sensibill wrote:

RBFresno wrote:

sensibill wrote:

RBFresno wrote:

Yep, the Tea Party have made quite a name for themselves and are now considered the dumbest people in government.

There's a lot of competition for that title......

SO VERY TRUE. Palin, Bachmann, Dubya, Perry, Cain, Akin, hell - you name it. It's a cast of thousands. Listing them off would take forever, like the endless parade of clowns out of the little car at the circus.

They won't even listen to the private sector anymore...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wall-street-tea-party-butt-heads-government-shutdown/story?id=20520136

Yes. The smartest people would define stupidity, by how little a politician is influenced by a part of the the private business sector, and how the media reports on it.

The best educated states are overwhelmingly Democrat. The poorest and least educated overwhelmingly Republican. Oldest and least educated Americans are most likely to be Conservative. Is this a pattern emerging..? HMM.

Overall, the best educated individuals tend to vote Democrat...

...and the least educated individuals also tend to vote Democrat:

Overly simplistic R vs D :

Nice try, linking a far-right conservative blog with self-cooked numbers (that skew according to age, since 50+ older people are generally more likely to have graduated college than 18-29 year olds).

Here's factual data . AKA not from some teabagger freak.

From your source:

"high school graduates are more Republican than non-high school graduates"

Those without High School diplomas more likely to be Democrats

I stand by my statement and you've provided nothing to the contrary::

-Overall, the best educated individuals tend to vote Democrat...

-.and the least educated individuals also tend to vote Democrat:

the 10 poorest cities are longtime Democratic strongholds—

and the data that liberals will be more inclined to cite—that the 10 poorest states are predominantly Republican, is that conservatives can point to actual policies that Democrats implemented that contributed to the impoverishment of the cities, while the liberals cannot point to specific GOP policies that have caused the poorer states to lag behind.

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Re: Democrats predominate among those with no High School Diploma....

RBFresno wrote:

sensibill wrote:

RBFresno wrote:

sensibill wrote:

RBFresno wrote:

Yep, the Tea Party have made quite a name for themselves and are now considered the dumbest people in government.

There's a lot of competition for that title......

SO VERY TRUE. Palin, Bachmann, Dubya, Perry, Cain, Akin, hell - you name it. It's a cast of thousands. Listing them off would take forever, like the endless parade of clowns out of the little car at the circus.

They won't even listen to the private sector anymore...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wall-street-tea-party-butt-heads-government-shutdown/story?id=20520136

Yes. The smartest people would define stupidity, by how little a politician is influenced by a part of the the private business sector, and how the media reports on it.

The best educated states are overwhelmingly Democrat. The poorest and least educated overwhelmingly Republican. Oldest and least educated Americans are most likely to be Conservative. Is this a pattern emerging..? HMM.

Overall, the best educated individuals tend to vote Democrat...

...and the least educated individuals also tend to vote Democrat:

Overly simplistic R vs D :

Nice try, linking a far-right conservative blog with self-cooked numbers (that skew according to age, since 50+ older people are generally more likely to have graduated college than 18-29 year olds).

Here's factual data . AKA not from some teabagger freak.

From your source:

"high school graduates are more Republican than non-high school graduates"

Those without High School diplomas more likely to be Democrats

I stand by my statement and you've provided nothing to the contrary::

-Overall, the best educated individuals tend to vote Democrat...

-.and the least educated individuals also tend to vote Democrat:

the 10 poorest cities are longtime Democratic strongholds—

and the data that liberals will be more inclined to cite—that the 10 poorest states are predominantly Republican, is that conservatives can point to actual policies that Democrats implemented

This "Curly Effect" is bullsht. It has it backwards. The aid to the poor is a result of them becoming poor and is not the cause of them being poor. In my opinion, it has cause and effect mixed up.

You Op Ed piece is just that, an opinion, not a fact.

that contributed to the impoverishment of the cities, while the liberals cannot point to specific GOP policies that have caused the poorer states to lag behind.

Well the GOP has "trickle down" economics and we all know that that's a sham.

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Re: Democrats predominate among those with no High School Diploma....
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Don_D wrote:

RBFresno wrote:

sensibill wrote:

RBFresno wrote:

sensibill wrote:

RBFresno wrote:

Yep, the Tea Party have made quite a name for themselves and are now considered the dumbest people in government.

There's a lot of competition for that title......

SO VERY TRUE. Palin, Bachmann, Dubya, Perry, Cain, Akin, hell - you name it. It's a cast of thousands. Listing them off would take forever, like the endless parade of clowns out of the little car at the circus.

They won't even listen to the private sector anymore...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wall-street-tea-party-butt-heads-government-shutdown/story?id=20520136

Yes. The smartest people would define stupidity, by how little a politician is influenced by a part of the the private business sector, and how the media reports on it.

The best educated states are overwhelmingly Democrat. The poorest and least educated overwhelmingly Republican. Oldest and least educated Americans are most likely to be Conservative. Is this a pattern emerging..? HMM.

Overall, the best educated individuals tend to vote Democrat...

...and the least educated individuals also tend to vote Democrat:

Overly simplistic R vs D :

Nice try, linking a far-right conservative blog with self-cooked numbers (that skew according to age, since 50+ older people are generally more likely to have graduated college than 18-29 year olds).

Here's factual data . AKA not from some teabagger freak.

From your source:

"high school graduates are more Republican than non-high school graduates"

Those without High School diplomas more likely to be Democrats

I stand by my statement and you've provided nothing to the contrary::

-Overall, the best educated individuals tend to vote Democrat...

-.and the least educated individuals also tend to vote Democrat:

the 10 poorest cities are longtime Democratic strongholds—

So no argument with the above  facts....

and the data that liberals will be more inclined to cite—that the 10 poorest states are predominantly Republican, is that conservatives can point to actual policies that Democrats implemented

This "Curly Effect" is bullsht. It has it backwards. The aid to the poor is a result of them becoming poor and is not the cause of them being poor. In my opinion, it has cause and effect mixed up.

You Op Ed piece is just that, an opinion, not a fact.

that contributed to the impoverishment of the cities, while the liberals cannot point to specific GOP policies that have caused the poorer states to lag behind.

Well the GOP has "trickle down" economics and we all know that that's a sham.

My bad I guess. The Republican leadership and policies are at the heart of the state of affairs in Detroit  and Buffalo.

RB

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Re: Democrats predominate among those with no High School Diploma....
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RBFresno wrote:

Don_D wrote:

RBFresno wrote:

sensibill wrote:

RBFresno wrote:

sensibill wrote:

RBFresno wrote:

Yep, the Tea Party have made quite a name for themselves and are now considered the dumbest people in government.

There's a lot of competition for that title......

SO VERY TRUE. Palin, Bachmann, Dubya, Perry, Cain, Akin, hell - you name it. It's a cast of thousands. Listing them off would take forever, like the endless parade of clowns out of the little car at the circus.

They won't even listen to the private sector anymore...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wall-street-tea-party-butt-heads-government-shutdown/story?id=20520136

Yes. The smartest people would define stupidity, by how little a politician is influenced by a part of the the private business sector, and how the media reports on it.

The best educated states are overwhelmingly Democrat. The poorest and least educated overwhelmingly Republican. Oldest and least educated Americans are most likely to be Conservative. Is this a pattern emerging..? HMM.

Overall, the best educated individuals tend to vote Democrat...

...and the least educated individuals also tend to vote Democrat:

Overly simplistic R vs D :

Nice try, linking a far-right conservative blog with self-cooked numbers (that skew according to age, since 50+ older people are generally more likely to have graduated college than 18-29 year olds).

Here's factual data . AKA not from some teabagger freak.

From your source:

"high school graduates are more Republican than non-high school graduates"

Those without High School diplomas more likely to be Democrats

I stand by my statement and you've provided nothing to the contrary::

-Overall, the best educated individuals tend to vote Democrat...

-.and the least educated individuals also tend to vote Democrat:

the 10 poorest cities are longtime Democratic strongholds—

So no argument with the above facts....

and the data that liberals will be more inclined to cite—that the 10 poorest states are predominantly Republican, is that conservatives can point to actual policies that Democrats implemented

This "Curly Effect" is bullsht. It has it backwards. The aid to the poor is a result of them becoming poor and is not the cause of them being poor. In my opinion, it has cause and effect mixed up.

You Op Ed piece is just that, an opinion, not a fact.

that contributed to the impoverishment of the cities, while the liberals cannot point to specific GOP policies that have caused the poorer states to lag behind.

Well the GOP has "trickle down" economics and we all know that that's a sham.

My bad I guess. The Republican leadership and policies are at the heart of the state of affairs in Detroit and Buffalo.

I don't think so.

IMHO and despite what they think, much of the time politicians have little effect on the fortunes of people or places like Detroit and Buffalo.  Especially US politicians.

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RBFresno wrote:

sensibill wrote:

RBFresno wrote:

Yep, the Tea Party have made quite a name for themselves and are now considered the dumbest people in government.

There's a lot of competition for that title......

SO VERY TRUE. Palin, Bachmann, Dubya, Perry, Cain, Akin, hell - you name it. It's a cast of thousands. Listing them off would take forever, like the endless parade of clowns out of the little car at the circus.

They won't even listen to the private sector anymore...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wall-street-tea-party-butt-heads-government-shutdown/story?id=20520136

Yes. The smartest people would define stupidity, by how little a politician is influenced by a part of the the private business sector, and how the media reports on it.

The best educated states are overwhelmingly Democrat. The poorest and least educated overwhelmingly Republican. Oldest and least educated Americans are most likely to be Conservative. Is this a pattern emerging..? HMM.

Overall, the best educated individuals tend to vote Democrat...

...and the least educated individuals also tend to vote Democrat:

I might have agreed with your last statement 25 years ago but today I believe the Republicans have the least educated voter market cornered.  Most people I speak with about politics that vote Republican demonstrate quite clearly that they have no interest in understanding the facts and vote only with their heart, by habit or by preconceived notions.  Certainly many Democrats do the same but the Dem's I discuss politics with are much better informed on the issues and are less "me" and much more "we" in their views meaning what's not best for me but for the country.

I now see the Republican voter as me, myself and I.

Bob

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Re: You are confused, you mean the Tea Party
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rwbaron wrote:

RBFresno wrote:

sensibill wrote:

RBFresno wrote:

Yep, the Tea Party have made quite a name for themselves and are now considered the dumbest people in government.

There's a lot of competition for that title......

SO VERY TRUE. Palin, Bachmann, Dubya, Perry, Cain, Akin, hell - you name it. It's a cast of thousands. Listing them off would take forever, like the endless parade of clowns out of the little car at the circus.

They won't even listen to the private sector anymore...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wall-street-tea-party-butt-heads-government-shutdown/story?id=20520136

Yes. The smartest people would define stupidity, by how little a politician is influenced by a part of the the private business sector, and how the media reports on it.

The best educated states are overwhelmingly Democrat. The poorest and least educated overwhelmingly Republican. Oldest and least educated Americans are most likely to be Conservative. Is this a pattern emerging..? HMM.

Overall, the best educated individuals tend to vote Democrat...

...and the least educated individuals also tend to vote Democrat:

I might have agreed with your last statement 25 years ago but today I believe the Republicans have the least educated voter market cornered. Most people I speak with about politics that vote Republican demonstrate quite clearly that they have no interest in understanding the facts and vote only with their heart, by habit or by preconceived notions. Certainly many Democrats do the same but the Dem's I discuss politics with are much better informed on the issues and are less "me" and much more "we" in their views meaning what's not best for me but for the country.

I now see the Republican voter as me, myself and I.

Bob

Hi Bob.

I agree with the data that, as a whole, more educated folks tend to be  democrat.

I was specifically referring to the folks who are not high school graduates, who are also predominately democrat. I've not seen convincing data to the contrary.

I doubt if the Democrats that you refer to as being better informed, are mostly high school drop outs:

Obama Voters Underdstand the issues.

Howard Stern Interviews 2012 voters

Obama Supporters Don't support Obama's Policies when told they are Romney's Policies.

DC Obama Supporters

In all fairness, there are plenty of Republican's who are ill informed.

Romney Supporter speaks from her chest....err heart.

Voters at Romney Rally

And then there's the independent voter:

An Independent votes Republican

But for someone to blanket state that either Democrat or Republican voters are better informed  or educated is overly simplistic propaganda, and as such, deserves a dissenting comment.

RB

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Re: I never thought I would miss Jimmy Carter...

Don_D wrote:

rb59020 wrote:

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"Former President Jimmy Carter said Monday that if he were back in the White House, he would work with Republicans and Democrats to secure more funding for affordable housing and urge more flexibility in resolving differences involving the critical issue."

"I would work as harmoniously as I could with other members of the Congress, and with both Democrats and Republicans, to figure out how we can face a time of great deficits."

Not exactly from the Obama playbook.

The Tea Party types and Republican right wing has beat up on Obama unrelentingly and without mercy for six years. It's no wonder that he has hardened his positions.

What goes around comes around.

....and unfortunately the Nation is the loser for all of this animosity.

I agree, it is totally destructive. Right wingers only ever seem to destroy, never create. They complain, but do nothing that can be praised. Like most opposition parties they do nothing to help their country.

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