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Serhan2 • Senior Member • Posts: 1,496

Re: 16-70/f4Z on NEX7 (test shot)

In reply to Wolfgang • Sep 16, 2013

Thanks again. I will check it tonight w/ rawtherapee and lightroom.

Wolfgang wrote:

Here you go: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9344133/130915_NEX7_LeibnizAutofrei_13968.dng.zip

W.

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OP Wolfgang • Regular Member • Posts: 176

Re: 16-70/f4Z on NEX7 (test shot)

In reply to GodSpeaks • Sep 16, 2013

And here it is. The small lens is the 35/1.8E

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Waardij • Forum Member • Posts: 69

Re: 16-70/f4Z on NEX7 (test shot)

In reply to Wolfgang • Sep 16, 2013

thank you for the files. If you look at the 16mm file, it is very sharp on the right side, but less so on the left. it seems there is some decentering.

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Kiichiro • Contributing Member • Posts: 515

Re: 16-70/f4Z on NEX7 (test shot)

In reply to Wolfgang • Sep 16, 2013

I don't have a chance to look at the raw files yet but I just wanted to say thank you for posting them.

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OP Wolfgang • Regular Member • Posts: 176

Re: 16-70/f4Z on NEX7 (test shot)

In reply to Kiichiro • Sep 16, 2013

You are welcome...

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ttan98 • Senior Member • Posts: 2,454

Re: Thanks for the review...should I get one?

In reply to Wolfgang • Sep 17, 2013

firstly for about $1000 for this lens it must give better images than the kit lens.

secondly mounted on the NEX7 or even 5n the combo seems unbalanced because of it large size and weighs heavier then the kit lens.

The 2 reasons above convince me that answer is NO.

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Michael Everett • Senior Member • Posts: 2,058

Re: 16-70/f4Z on NEX7 (test shot)

In reply to Wolfgang • Sep 17, 2013

Thanks Wolfgang for the shots. I find the lens to be very impressive, especially for a zoom. I wonder, how is the AF. Is it comparable, or better or worse than the kit lens?

Michael

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blue_skies • Forum Pro • Posts: 12,379

Re: 16-70/f4Z on NEX7 (test shot)

In reply to Wolfgang • Sep 17, 2013

Wolfgang wrote:

Just received the new Zeiss 16-70/f4Z, and went out for some shooting today.

Over on my site there is a test frame with NEX7 and 16-70/f4 Zeiss. Wonderful glas. I was always annoyed with the kit – lenses (16-50 oder 18-55), either distortion or CA or both. Here: Nothing at all. Tack sharp, and printed on an Z3200 in A3+ on FineArt paper: Very detailed rendering.

At last a matching lens for the NEX7. No for a 55-210/f4Z...

For all the pixel peepers: There is also a link to the original RAW/DNG file.

Best

Wolfgang

Wolfgang, I assume that you have the E1855 and/or the E1650P?

If so, could you put side-by-side images (and crops) taken with one (or both) of the kit lenses and the E1670 (maybe at 35mm FL)?

I like the image of the Riesenrad very much - it has amazing detail and sharpness, and I assume that you did this in RAW without any post processing? (The EXIF reads ISO-100, 1/400th, 70mm, f/5.6, EV +0.7).

For the E1855 and/or E1650P, I'd suggest JPG (let the camera do the CA and lens distortion adjustment).

I am looking for visual proof that justifies the expense of the E1670Z over either kit lens, and am hoping that perhaps you can show us this?

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Serhan2 • Senior Member • Posts: 1,496

Re: 16-70/f4Z on NEX7 (test shot)

In reply to Wolfgang • Sep 17, 2013

Rawtherapee shows 4015x6020 pixels so there is very small correction on the wide side, maybe some vignetting correction. Also overall image looks darker in rawtherapee compared to lightroom. Thanks again.

Wolfgang wrote:

Here you go: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9344133/130915_NEX7_LeibnizAutofrei_13968.dng.zip

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ronfab1 • Contributing Member • Posts: 671

Re: 16-70/f4Z on NEX7 (test shot)

In reply to Wolfgang • Sep 17, 2013

Wolfgang wrote:

Yepp. Here is on with 16mm...

NEX 7 with 16-70/f4Z

NICE! And thank you for posting it BIG!

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OP Wolfgang • Regular Member • Posts: 176

Re: 16-70/f4Z on NEX7 (test shot)

In reply to Serhan2 • Sep 17, 2013

I just checked: It was a little tilted, and I corrected that in the JPG!

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clail • Contributing Member • Posts: 548

Re: 16-70/f4Z on NEX7 (test shot)

In reply to Wolfgang • Sep 17, 2013

Wolfgang, check the tiles on the roof on both sides and also the pavements on the bottom corners. It does appear a bit soft on the left hand side.

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OP Wolfgang • Regular Member • Posts: 176

Re: 16-70/f4Z on NEX7 (test shot)

In reply to blue_skies • Sep 17, 2013

Hello Henry!

I own the 16-50P, and I will do some shots with both. Just give me a day or two...

The "Riesenrad" is shot in RAW, and as always ETTR (a slight over-exposure), because it is better to recover highlights than shadows. And I found the NEX7 perfectly capable of going up to +2 EV.

On this shot it´s +0,7, that was enough to have structure in the foreground without blowing out the highlights.

Wolfgang

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Klipsen • Veteran Member • Posts: 6,166

This is the lens that makes me ...

In reply to Wolfgang • Sep 17, 2013

... buy a Sony product one last time. I'm quite happy with the 18-55 mm, at least enough that I don't bother to use my A-Mount 16-80 mm (partly because it's much bigger, partly because I don't want to exclude myself from shooting an occasional video clip), but this looks like a Winner

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GodSpeaks • Forum Pro • Posts: 14,865

Re: 16-70/f4Z on NEX7 (test shot)

In reply to Wolfgang • Sep 17, 2013

Thank you, that's great.

The more I think about it, the more I am starting to like that lens. Oh, my aching wallet.

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jlim • Regular Member • Posts: 186

Re: 16-70/f4Z on NEX7 (test shot)

In reply to Wolfgang • Sep 17, 2013

This is what it looks like extended on a NEX 6

http://m.flickr.com/lightbox?id=9737285162

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naththo • Contributing Member • Posts: 911

Re: 16-70/f4Z on NEX7 (test shot)

In reply to Wolfgang • Sep 17, 2013

Wow very nice sample shots there. Really really good. I have seen few more review of photos, very impressive. This is very tempting that I want to get one. It will blow my 18-55mm kit out of house. lol $1200 in Australia to purchase though so next fortnight I might get one as long as it is not sold out hopefully!

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BartjeVanIlse • Regular Member • Posts: 100

Re: 16-70/f4Z on NEX7 (test shot)

In reply to Wolfgang • Sep 17, 2013

My sel1670z has arrived one week earlier than expected. About 15 minutes ago

1 thing I already noticed is that it focusses faster than my other sony lenses. Now installing PDAF update. I'm curious.

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Hamilton NYC • Regular Member • Posts: 211

Re: 16-70/f4Z on NEX7 (test shot)

In reply to Wolfgang • Sep 17, 2013

Has anyone else been getting 'delay' emails from Sony, in regards to 1670z?

This is the second email I've received:

Thank you for your recent Sony purchase.

We would like to inform you we are experiencing a delay with your Sony order. The following item SEL1670Z has been rescheduled to ship on 09/22/2013.

Tracking information will be sent via email once your order ships. This number will also be available within the order history in your Sony Account. If you are unable to continue waiting we encourage you to visit our website or call 1-866-337-7669 to work with a Sony sales representative to find an alternative product that will meet your needs.

We appreciate your understanding and thank you for choosing Sony!

Sincerely, Sony Customer Care store.sony.com

I'm not worried because it's "delaying" it to the expected shipping date, but find it interesting that I keep getting these.

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