Fuji X-A1

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DonSantos Senior Member • Posts: 1,145
Fuji X-A1
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Would be more attractive if it had the new 20mp sensor from Sony A3000.
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Astrophotographer 10 Veteran Member • Posts: 8,721
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Looks like its designed to compete against Sony Nex 5r and t and Nex 6. Same 16.3mp sensor without the Xtrans colour array.

The new processor, swivel LCD screen and wifi are indications of what we can expect from XE2 and XPro 2. Hopefully Fuji makes the XPro 2 more differentiated from the XE2 to create more of a hierarchy of models with separate and distinct value points for each.

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straylightrun Senior Member • Posts: 1,430
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Astrophotographer 10 wrote:

Looks like its designed to compete against Sony Nex 5r and t and Nex 6. Same 16.3mp sensor without the Xtrans colour array.

Really? It looks more like it competes with the NEX-3n. Definitely not the NEX-6.

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straylightrun wrote:

Astrophotographer 10 wrote:

Looks like its designed to compete against Sony Nex 5r and t and Nex 6. Same 16.3mp sensor without the Xtrans colour array.

Really? It looks more like it competes with the NEX-3n. Definitely not the NEX-6.

Agreed, the lack of viewfinder (and impossibility to add one) puts it more against the NEX 3 series, of the Samsung NX300.

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Fuji made a wise move here, offering their wonderful lenses with a traditional bayer sensor.  I give them huge props if this actually comes to light without the goofy xtrans nonsense.  Hopefully this will lead to an xtrans-less model with an EVF, similar to the X-E1

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DonSantos OP Senior Member • Posts: 1,145
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DonSantos wrote:

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fotoskoda.cz%2Fclanky%2F129-novinky-fujifilm-x-a1-a-fujinon-xf23mm-f1-4%2F

So it's essentially an x-m1 without the x-trans headaches and cheaper too.

I so plan to get one!

Also two features that the x-e1/x-pro1 doesn't have.

1.  face detection AF!

2.  user set minimum shutter speed in Aperture Priority mode!

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AngryCorgi wrote:

Hopefully this will lead to an xtrans-less model with an EVF, similar to the X-E1

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And waste resources & confuse consumers in the process, having two cheap mirrorless cameras (X-A1, X-M1) and two more expensive ones (X-E1, hypothetical-X-non-trans)? Bad idea IMHO.

The X-Trans technology is worth refining - and it's already quite good. It is in the interest of Fuji to focus on these sensors, which provides them with a strategic advantage in a world where sensor makers are few and differentiating points between cameras are few too.

All they need at the moment is to put more efforts in making third-party softwares handle their RAW format correctly.

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Samaistuin wrote:

AngryCorgi wrote:

Hopefully this will lead to an xtrans-less model with an EVF, similar to the X-E1

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And waste resources & confuse consumers in the process, having two cheap mirrorless cameras (X-A1, X-M1) and two more expensive ones (X-E1, hypothetical-X-non-trans)? Bad idea IMHO.

The X-Trans technology is worth refining - and it's already quite good. It is in the interest of Fuji to focus on these sensors, which provides them with a strategic advantage in a world where sensor makers are few and differentiating points between cameras are few too.

All they need at the moment is to put more efforts in making third-party softwares handle their RAW format correctly.

Increasing market share is NEVER a "waste of of resources".  A lot of people don't care for the x-trans headaches and like the behaviour of the traditional bayer filtered cameras.

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Elliot H Senior Member • Posts: 1,376
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DonSantos wrote:

So it's essentially an x-m1 without the x-trans headaches and cheaper too.

what  "x-trans headaches" are you referring to?

thank you

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Elliot H wrote:

DonSantos wrote:

So it's essentially an x-m1 without the x-trans headaches and cheaper too.

what "x-trans headaches" are you referring to?

thank you

also interested to know.

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extraeee wrote:

Elliot H wrote:

DonSantos wrote:

So it's essentially an x-m1 without the x-trans headaches and cheaper too.

what "x-trans headaches" are you referring to?

thank you

also interested to know.

Yea, me too. First I've heard of any "headaches"

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Astrophotographer 10 wrote:

Hopefully Fuji makes the XPro 2 more differentiated from the XE2 to create more of a hierarchy of models with separate and distinct value points for each.

Greg.

Why is that important to you?

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Elliot H wrote:

DonSantos wrote:

So it's essentially an x-m1 without the x-trans headaches and cheaper too.

what "x-trans headaches" are you referring to?

thank you

Let me guess -- bad colors, strange artifacts.

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Sounds good to me - Standard bayer = easier processing and maybe better images for a large number of RAW fans.

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DonSantos wrote:

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fotoskoda.cz%2Fclanky%2F129-novinky-fujifilm-x-a1-a-fujinon-xf23mm-f1-4%2F

So it's essentially an x-m1 without the x-trans headaches and cheaper too.

I so plan to get one!

Also two features that the x-e1/x-pro1 doesn't have.

1.  face detection AF!

2.  user set minimum shutter speed in Aperture Priority mode!

Doesn't the X-M1 have these too?
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DonSantos wrote:

So it's essentially an x-m1 without the x-trans headaches and cheaper too.

what  "x-trans headaches" are you referring to?

thank you

As of now there aren't any, but it doesn't stop haters hating...
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Elliot H wrote:

DonSantos wrote:

So it's essentially an x-m1 without the x-trans headaches and cheaper too.

what "x-trans headaches" are you referring to?

thank you

Let me guess -- bad colors, strange artifacts.

Must have missed those, no wait, they used to be a problem. As for bad colours, that's laughable
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AngryCorgi wrote:

Increasing market share is NEVER a "waste of of resources". A lot of people don't care for the x-trans headaches and like the behaviour of the traditional bayer filtered cameras.

If you attempt to increase a market share by spending more in producing a new camera, and blurring your commercial offering (i.e. scaring prospective consumers) in the meantime, then your gains are marginal.

See, if they had priced the X-M1 better they would have killed two birds with one stone, whilst keeping their lineup clear and more aggressively pushing their X-Trans technology on the market.

JohnNewman
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A lot of space has been taken up on this thread and elsewhere arguing about the X-Trans sensor. It's pretty obvious that a number of users do have some concerns and wish that Fuji would use a 'normal' Bayer sensor.  Maybe Fuji (not being complete idiots) have recognised this disquiet and are testing the market to see what the response is.

I do know from talking to people (in the market that the X-A1 is aimed at) that many potential upgraders from P & S are concerned about "that funny sensor" and are going for Sony, Panny, Olys etc.  I like the output from my X-E1 and have no objection either way. If Fuji bought in a 24mp Bayer sensor from Sony and put it in an X-PR0 2 or X-E2 I'd be delighted and would beat a path to my dealers.

Even better, I'd love to see Fuji bring out a DSLR with full PDAF which accepted the gorgeous X mount lenses. Iffy focusing for certain (not all) subjects is my biggest gripe - to the extent that I'm having to consider getting a smaller Nikon to back up the Fuji. To have a choice of Fuji bodies to use with with my lenses would be heaven.

But, back on subject, for Fuji to suddenly bring out a new model without X-Trans indicates to me that they have some concerns about the acceptability of X-Trans amongst the wider photographic community and, if that is the case, they will go with what brings the most returns to shareholders, not what we want.

John

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