Pancakes for the SL1, you vote!

A 22mm pancake would make me sell my T4i and hop-on the SL1 brigade.

The current 40mm pancake is too restrictive for my liking, and buying the model with the included

18-55mm lens defeats the purpose of this model. A 35mm equivalent pancake, that is 22mm in 1.6

sensors, would be ideal.

007peter wrote:

Nikon has an affordable 35mm f/1.8 for $199, as does Sony with a $199 DT 35mm f/1.8 SAM. Canon is the only major DSLR maker without an affordable fast wide prime.

The ancient 35mm F/2 is very old, it uses an ARC motor that is also very LOUD like somoene scratching a blackboard with a finger nail. I bought one and sold it within a month.

It is time for a new Fast Wide Prime. I would love to see an EF-S version of Canon 22mm STM for rebel dslr.

The 35mm would be a good lens to update to a more affordable version- agreed. The SL1 is such a good camera, all it needs are some smaller lighter affordable lenses to go with it. Pity that the M lenses don't work, the 22mm is real cool.

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007peter wrote:

Nikon has an affordable 35mm f/1.8 for $199,

The Nikon can not hold a candle to the Canon EF 32mm f2. It has more barrel distortion, VERY bad bokeh, and more CA.

as does Sony with a $199 DT 35mm f/1.8 SAM. Canon is the only major DSLR maker without an affordable fast wide prime.

Nonsense, the EF 35mm f2 is only a 3rd of s stop slower. And the same size and weight as the Nikon.

The ancient 35mm F/2 is very old,

So? It is a nice lens.

it uses an ARC motor that is also very LOUD like somoene scratching a blackboard with a finger nail.

Ok, how is that for a nonsensical hyperbolic comment. The lens is actually quite silent in normal usage. And fast, and accurate.

I bought one and sold it within a month.

That is your problem. It is a nice lens.

It is time for a new Fast Wide Prime.

35mm on APS-C is NOT wide!

I would love to see an EF-S version of Canon 22mm STM for rebel dslr.

That is not possible (flange distance).

The SL1/100D already can have many compact lenses mounted on it:

• Voigtlander 20mm f3.5 SL II. Lovely metal built pancake. MF only, but a joy to use.
• Voigtlander 28mm f2.8 SL II. Lovely metal built pancake. MF only, but a joy to use and makes for a lovely "standard prime" on APS-C.
• Voigtlander 40mm f2 SL II. Lovely metal built pancake. MF only, even a bit nicer than the Canon 40mm (nicer bokeh).
• Canon EF 40mm f2.8 STM. Nice and compact pancake. 
• Sigma 30mm f1.4 EX DC HSM (A). Nice big aperture standard prime.
• Canon EF 24mm f2.8 (and 24mm f2.8 IS USM). Compact primes with good optics.
• Canon EF 35mm f2 (and 35mm f2 IS USM). Compact standard primes with good optics.
• Tokina 35mm f2,8 DX macro. Discontinued, but a compact and nice 1:1 macro and standard prime.
• Canon EF 50mm f1.8 II. Light, cheap and compact, usable for shorter portrait lens.

For portrait primes, the Tamron 60mm f2 Di II macro and Canon EF-S f2.8 USM Macro are nice and compact also.

keithinmelbourne wrote:

cgarrard wrote:

I think Canon is on to something with the SL1- it's a great alternative to the mirrorless brigade, but the lack of small and light lenses seems to sort of kill that idea. I think a small range of primes or even reduced size zoom lens, would really add to the momentum of the SL1. What say you?

Carl Garrard

Really, I think that any addition should have a wide aperture, which is why I voted for the 30mm f1.8. More light, more DOF control. Those two factors win over size anyday.

Sigma 30mm f1.4 EX DC HSM (A).

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I'm aware of this entire list.

brightcolours wrote:

The SL1/100D already can have many compact lenses mounted on it:

• Voigtlander 20mm f3.5 SL II. Lovely metal built pancake. MF only, but a joy to use.
• Voigtlander 28mm f2.8 SL II. Lovely metal built pancake. MF only, but a joy to use and makes for a lovely "standard prime" on APS-C.
• Voigtlander 40mm f2 SL II. Lovely metal built pancake. MF only, even a bit nicer than the Canon 40mm (nicer bokeh).

None of the above have autofocus.

• Canon EF 40mm f2.8 STM. Nice and compact pancake.

Um yeah I know.

• Sigma 30mm f1.4 EX DC HSM (A). Nice big aperture standard prime.

Too bulky and heavy and I don't like older Sigma lenses.

• Canon EF 24mm f2.8 (and 24mm f2.8 IS USM). Compact primes with good optics.
• Canon EF 35mm f2 (and 35mm f2 IS USM). Compact standard primes with good optics.

Again aware, a bit expensive the new versions are. Think pancake, small.. light, affordable. Like the 40mm f/2.8 Canon you pointed out.

• Tokina 35mm f2,8 DX macro. Discontinued, but a compact and nice 1:1 macro and standard prime.

Discontinued, nuff said.

• Canon EF 50mm f1.8 II. Light, cheap and compact, usable for shorter portrait lens.

A viable alternative, so far I count 2 lenses. But it's not a pancake design.

For portrait primes, the Tamron 60mm f2 Di II macro and Canon EF-S f2.8 USM Macro are nice and compact also.

You missed the point of the poll. Pancake lenses. Small, light, and thin- more so than the current lenses in the lineup. Exactly the reason why Canon made the 40mm f/2.8 in the first place.

Carl
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cgarrard wrote:

I'm aware of this entire list.

brightcolours wrote:

The SL1/100D already can have many compact lenses mounted on it:

• Voigtlander 20mm f3.5 SL II. Lovely metal built pancake. MF only, but a joy to use.
• Voigtlander 28mm f2.8 SL II. Lovely metal built pancake. MF only, but a joy to use and makes for a lovely "standard prime" on APS-C.
• Voigtlander 40mm f2 SL II. Lovely metal built pancake. MF only, even a bit nicer than the Canon 40mm (nicer bokeh).

None of the above have autofocus.

None of the above need autofocus.

• Canon EF 40mm f2.8 STM. Nice and compact pancake.

Um yeah I know.

Good.

• Sigma 30mm f1.4 EX DC HSM (A). Nice big aperture standard prime.

Too bulky and heavy and I don't like older Sigma lenses.

It is NOT bulky and NOT heavy for an 1.4 lens. It is super new too (2013).

• Canon EF 24mm f2.8 (and 24mm f2.8 IS USM). Compact primes with good optics.
• Canon EF 35mm f2 (and 35mm f2 IS USM). Compact standard primes with good optics.

Again aware, a bit expensive the new versions are. Think pancake, small.. light, affordable. Like the 40mm f/2.8 Canon you pointed out.

They are very affordable and they are small and they are light. If you can't afford the new ones, look at the old ones. Pancakes usually have horrible bokeh and stronger CA.

• Tokina 35mm f2,8 DX macro. Discontinued, but a compact and nice 1:1 macro and standard prime.

Discontinued, nuff said.

You can buy one. "Nuff" said.

• Canon EF 50mm f1.8 II. Light, cheap and compact, usable for shorter portrait lens.

A viable alternative, so far I count 2 lenses. But it's not a pancake design.

Oh, now this is a "viable alternative", but the 24mm and 35mm not? Ok...

For portrait primes, the Tamron 60mm f2 Di II macro and Canon EF-S f2.8 USM Macro are nice and compact also.

You missed the point of the poll. Pancake lenses. Small, light, and thin- more so than the current lenses in the lineup. Exactly the reason why Canon made the 40mm f/2.8 in the first place.

Canon made the 40mm because it is a 40mm. They are easy to make for EOS mount (44mm flange distance) in pancake design. There are two other pancake design focal length lenses available even (Voigtlander), and if you dismiss them because they are manual focus, you are shooting yourself in the foot. Plenty of small lenses available for the SL1/100D, ranging from 20mm to 60mm. Stop moaning?

Carl
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brightcolours wrote:

cgarrard wrote:

I'm aware of this entire list.

brightcolours wrote:

The SL1/100D already can have many compact lenses mounted on it:

• Voigtlander 20mm f3.5 SL II. Lovely metal built pancake. MF only, but a joy to use.
• Voigtlander 28mm f2.8 SL II. Lovely metal built pancake. MF only, but a joy to use and makes for a lovely "standard prime" on APS-C.
• Voigtlander 40mm f2 SL II. Lovely metal built pancake. MF only, even a bit nicer than the Canon 40mm (nicer bokeh).

None of the above have autofocus.

None of the above need autofocus.

• Canon EF 40mm f2.8 STM. Nice and compact pancake.

Um yeah I know.

Good.

• Sigma 30mm f1.4 EX DC HSM (A). Nice big aperture standard prime.

Too bulky and heavy and I don't like older Sigma lenses.

It is NOT bulky and NOT heavy for an 1.4 lens. It is super new too (2013).

• Canon EF 24mm f2.8 (and 24mm f2.8 IS USM). Compact primes with good optics.
• Canon EF 35mm f2 (and 35mm f2 IS USM). Compact standard primes with good optics.

Again aware, a bit expensive the new versions are. Think pancake, small.. light, affordable. Like the 40mm f/2.8 Canon you pointed out.

They are very affordable and they are small and they are light. If you can't afford the new ones, look at the old ones. Pancakes usually have horrible bokeh and stronger CA.

• Tokina 35mm f2,8 DX macro. Discontinued, but a compact and nice 1:1 macro and standard prime.

Discontinued, nuff said.

You can buy one. "Nuff" said.

• Canon EF 50mm f1.8 II. Light, cheap and compact, usable for shorter portrait lens.

A viable alternative, so far I count 2 lenses. But it's not a pancake design.

Oh, now this is a "viable alternative", but the 24mm and 35mm not? Ok...

For portrait primes, the Tamron 60mm f2 Di II macro and Canon EF-S f2.8 USM Macro are nice and compact also.

You missed the point of the poll. Pancake lenses. Small, light, and thin- more so than the current lenses in the lineup. Exactly the reason why Canon made the 40mm f/2.8 in the first place.

Canon made the 40mm because it is a 40mm. They are easy to make for EOS mount (44mm flange distance) in pancake design. There are two other pancake design focal length lenses available even (Voigtlander), and if you dismiss them because they are manual focus, you are shooting yourself in the foot. Plenty of small lenses available for the SL1/100D, ranging from 20mm to 60mm. Stop moaning?

Carl
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Opinion noted.

Nobody is moaning though. It's a discussion, disagreeing with you isn't moaning.

C

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