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Canon 35mm F2 IS USM or Sigma 35mm 1.4 for street photography?

Started Aug 16, 2013 | Questions
JSorel New Member • Posts: 3
Canon 35mm F2 IS USM or Sigma 35mm 1.4 for street photography?

Hi,

Can anyone help me decide between the Canon 35mm F2 IS USM and the Sigma 35mm 1.4? Maybe any of you owns both lenses, and can share some insights?

My intended use is mainly street photography. I will be using the lens with my Canon 5D markII to record a research I will be doing in South America, with the intention of publishing the images on the net and eventually in print. I might use it also to capture some video, but still photography is certainly the priority. My plan is to shoot in available light, in all kinds of urban conditions - not very sure what I will be facing there - including at night.

I have been trying both lenses and I can't really make a decision. The Canon has a great build (though not as nice as the Sigma), it weighs much less and is much smaller, making it much less conspicuous with the 5D. The Sigma has been receiving all those rave reviews, including from photographers I know, and it is faster. But the Canon has IS... And right now I can find the Canon 35% cheaper than the Sigma.

I've read dozens of reviews online, and though all attention seem to be focused on the Sigma, the (few) reviews about the Canon are all positive. Some go as far as saying that the Canon's image quality rivals that of the 35mm 1.4L, which sounds quite amazing. Anyone here can vouch for that?

Anyway, trying both lenses hasn't really helped - holding that thick, heavy piece of metal and glass that is the Sigma is quite a cool experience... And I haven't done all that much street photography in low light, so I'm not sure if the 3 extra stops I can get from the Canon's IS will be more useful than the 1 stop I will get from the Sigma, considering that stopping motion is the final aim.

Any comments, suggestions, insights?

Thanks in advance!

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NancyP Veteran Member • Posts: 6,608
Re: Canon 35mm F2 IS USM or Sigma 35mm 1.4 for street photography?

Canon 35mm f/2 IS or non-IS. The Sigma is big.

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pentel Regular Member • Posts: 453
Re: Canon 35mm F2 IS USM or Sigma 35mm 1.4 for street photography?

You've some contradicting points so it's better to straight them out

1) Still photography is priority

2) Stopping the motion is final aim

For #1, you will have better bet with IS. For #2 you want the fastest available shutter speed at all times, which means you need the 35/1.4

The 35IS/2 is probably more compact and good to carry around.

So weight your needs and decide base on priority.

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My Sigma 35 1.4 just went back to store

While it was good at close up ranges, it was terrible at distances, even misfocussing at times.  Up close it might have been slightly better than my 50 1.4 but you had to pixel peep to see it and hardly worth the extra money to me.  I compared it to my 17-40 at F4 and 35 and there was very little difference there too.  I don't know if I got a dud, but quite frankly the hype didn't match my expectations.

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mu55 Senior Member • Posts: 1,423
Re: My Sigma 35 1.4 just went back to store

I would go with the canon 35mm IS - the stabilizer will let you experiment with some motion blur. ie you could hand hold it at 1/15th or 1/10th and take a shot of a stationary person in a fast moving crowd - much harder to pull off with the sigma without a tripod
Also it's smaller/lighter and should be a very sharp lens from what i've read

Remember not to be afraid of high ISO as well, try shooting at f11 or f16 at 1600/3200 ISO in bright sunlight, some lenses render differently when stopped down - I use a voightlander 21mm f4 on a sony-5n for street/market shooting and while it's great wide open it has a really nice feel to it when stopped down alot - just something worth experimenting with

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Karl R. Josker
Karl R. Josker Contributing Member • Posts: 944
Re: My Sigma 35 1.4 just went back to store

I've got the new Canon 35 f2 and although initially puzzled by it, I now absolutely love it. In the beginning, using a 6D, I simply shot in P on center focus, and was disappointed in the results, always out of focus. Then I read something here about using multi-points, I tried it, and it was a different lens, producing great results. Bottom line, it was my error.

On to Sigma. In over 43 years of photography, I have owned about two dozen Sigmas, and I have been disappointed in every one of them. From finishes flaking off to continually breaking aperture stop down springs, I finally gave up on Sigma. The new ones may be, and hopefully are, better.

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OP JSorel New Member • Posts: 3
Re: Canon 35mm F2 IS USM or Sigma 35mm 1.4 for street photography?

Hey Thanks for the comments!

Still in doubt, though...

mu55 - thanks for the tip, I will certainly give it a try!

pentel - not sure what you mean... I will be shooting in the streets, handheld and without flash, and I would like to stop motion - no motion blur...

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Creative motion blur...

JSorel wrote:

Hey Thanks for the comments!

Still in doubt, though...

mu55 - thanks for the tip, I will certainly give it a try!

pentel - not sure what you mean... I will be shooting in the streets, handheld and without flash, and I would like to stop motion - no motion blur...

...should not be underestimated. I'm embedding the photo below to give a context to my thoughts on the matter:

Canon 5D + 24 / 1.4L @ f/5.6, 1/8, ISO 100

Note the EXIF -- f/5.6, 1/8. Such a shot, even at the relatively wide focal length of 24mm on FF would be much easier with IS than without.

Myself, I got the Sigma 35 / 1.4 over the Canon 35 / 2 IS because, in the end, I felt I'd have more use for f/1.4 and IS, as I like to shoot shallow DOFs, even at wider angles of view, and, as things have turned out, I've used f/1.4 far more often than I'd have wanted IS.

That said, if you want the deeper DOFs, as most street photographers do, then I'm thinking you'd be stopped down to at least f/2.8 and as much as f/5.6 much of the time, so the f/1.4 of the Sigma isn't going to help you one way or another. Of course, the IS wouldn't help you, either, if you didn't want motion blur. Then again, the following photo is at f/1.4:

Canon 6D + Sigma 35 / 1.4 @ f/1.4, 1/4000, ISO 100

So, depending on your focal distance and the size you display the photo, f/1.4 won't have a particularly narrow DOF.  On the other hand, f/1.4 is "only" a stop faster than f/2 -- is the noise differential (or DOF differential, for that matter) really so much that it makes that big of a deal?

It's a tough decision, for sure.  When I got the Sigma over the Canon, they were priced the same, so I chose the Sigma.  If the Canon had be 35% less expensive, I'd have gotten the Canon.  Truth be told, I want both. 

In my personal opinion, the Sigma 35 / 1.4 and Canon 35 / 2 IS are the two finest 35mm lenses for Canon FF, and you can't go wrong with either one.

OP JSorel New Member • Posts: 3
Re: Creative motion blur...

Thanks, great comments! And I love the picture with motion blur! I'm not sure I will be able to do that for this particular job, though... The idea is that I will need to see and recognize the people I will be taking pictures of.

You are right, it is a damn hard decision... Well, I really want the Sigma! The whole package just looks nicer, with better build quality and faster aperture! And the pictures taken with it seem to have an undefinable quality to them that I really like!

But the difference to the pictures I can get from the Canon are really small, the kind of thing I would need to pay a lot of attention to notice. And the Canon is cheaper, smaller, lighter and OEM.

Tough call! But I need it already for next weekend, so I will have to pick one soon...

rsn48 Veteran Member • Posts: 7,755
Bang for the buck, Canon non IS 35mm

IS isn't helpful for motion blur when you are after faster shutter speeds to render a moving target sharp.  The f1.4 of the Sigma is better, no doubt about it, I shoot night street photography.  But as another has said the Siggy 35 is a heavier lens.

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jeremyk999 New Member • Posts: 2
Re: Bang for the buck, Canon non IS 35mm

The original 35/2 non-IS is a dog. Only heavily stopped down did it begin to perform. The new 40/2.8 is much better. I own both.

I haven't tried the new 35/2 IS but all reports point to a seriously improved lens.

I recently rented the Sigma 35 1.4, and the results were fantastic. Out of focus areas, front and back were superb, and in focus areas were sharp with lots of micro contrast. Reminded me of Summilux results. It was BIG and heavy - for it's size I might as well strapped a big zoom on the end. And on my 5D2, it consistently missed focus with anything but the center point.

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Re: Bang for the buck, Canon non IS 35mm

jeremyk999 wrote:

The original 35/2 non-IS is a dog. Only heavily stopped down did it begin to perform. The new 40/2.8 is much better. I own both.

Perhaps sample variation.  I've seen some large wide open pics with the 35 / 2 that were nothing short of outstanding.

I haven't tried the new 35/2 IS but all reports point to a seriously improved lens.

Indeed.  Even though I have the Sigma 35 / 1.4, I want the 35 / 2 IS, too. 

I recently rented the Sigma 35 1.4, and the results were fantastic. Out of focus areas, front and back were superb, and in focus areas were sharp with lots of micro contrast. Reminded me of Summilux results. It was BIG and heavy - for it's size I might as well strapped a big zoom on the end. And on my 5D2, it consistently missed focus with anything but the center point.

Mine doesn't have any AF issues on my 6D, and I don't mind the weight (not to say that I'd object to lighter!).  I'd prefer it had been fatter than longer, though, like my 50 / 1.2L.

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Canon 35mm F2
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This image is a touch soft due to my hand held technique, shooting while on the move, but at f2 this shoot is "good enough."

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