Buying an emount f/2.8 zoom?

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Alohaman Contributing Member • Posts: 576
Buying an emount f/2.8 zoom?

SAR has a rumor about the 55-150 f/2.8 zoom e mount and asked would you buy one? I voted "no". Half voted "yes" and the other half voted "no" or "I don't know". I have the 55-210 zoom and usually use in outdoors during the day, so its f/4.5-6.3 doesn't bother me. I usually don't need a fast zoom outdoors.

Now if the rumored 16-xx zoom comes out as a constant f/2.8, I'd be the first to buy one. I have a Canon EPS 17-55 f/2.8. It's a great walk around and good indoors in low light.

So if both rumored lenses (55-150 and 16-xx) come out as f/2.8, which one would you buy?

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docvale Regular Member • Posts: 215
Re: Buying an emount f/2.8 zoom?

I would say that if I had to invest serious money to expand my Nex, a 16-50/80mm f2.8 would be the only thing I'd consider (apart of the external EVF).

A 55-150mm zoom wouldn't be interesting to me: the only time I felt my 55mm were too short was at a zoo! But it might be interesting to others...

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academytim Regular Member • Posts: 204
Re: Buying an emount f/2.8 zoom?

Definitely the 16ish to 55ish 2.8. I used a 17-50 2.8 Tamron with my A700 and it hardly ever came off of the camera. My sel3518 is now my primary lens, and I hardly ever use the kit zoom. I faster normal zoom would become my walk around lens with the 35 being used strictly for low light situations.

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kcamacho11 Senior Member • Posts: 1,529
Re: Buying an emount f/2.8 zoom?

academytim wrote:

Definitely the 16ish to 55ish 2.8. I used a 17-50 2.8 Tamron with my A700 and it hardly ever came off of the camera. My sel3518 is now my primary lens, and I hardly ever use the kit zoom. I faster normal zoom would become my walk around lens with the 35 being used strictly for low light situations.

That 55-150 is going to cost quite a bit.

If the 55-200 is $349, I would suspect the 55-150 F2.8 to go for at least $999 (and that's being optimistic).

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Re: Get the Sigma 1 F1.8 DC HSM8-35mm ?

- http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sigma-18-35-1-8

- Made in Japan

-Canon mount should be adaptable to NEX with all controls intact.

"Sigma's choice of F1.8 as maximum aperture isn't a coincidence; it means that the lens will offer the same control over depth of field as an F2.8 zoom does on full frame. What's more, it will also offer effectively the same light-gathering capability as an F2.8 lens on full frame."

  • 18-35mm focal length (27-53mm equivalent)
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http://photorumors.com/2013/07/21/dxomark-on-the-sigma-18-35mm-f1-8-dc-hsm-a-best-performing-aps-c-zoom/

DxOmark tested the Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 DC HSM A lens for Canon mount ($799) and labeled it as the "best performing APS-C zoom":

"With the introduction of this model, Sigma has the best performing zoom of its type. The DxOMark score of 25 points puts well ahead of both the full-frame Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L II USM and the Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8 Di VC USD (though bear in mind those lenses become the equivalent to a 38-112mm on a Canon APS-C body)."

Read more on PhotoRumors.com: http://photorumors.com/2013/07/21/dxomark-on-the-sigma-18-35mm-f1-8-dc-hsm-a-best-performing-aps-c-zoom/#ixzz2aAjFXT5C

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academytim Regular Member • Posts: 204
Re: Buying an emount f/2.8 zoom?

academytim wrote:

Definitely the 16ish to 55ish 2.8. I used a 17-50 2.8 Tamron with my A700 and it hardly ever came off of the camera. My sel3518 is now my primary lens, and I hardly ever use the kit zoom. I faster normal zoom would become my walk around lens with the 35 being used strictly for low light situations.

That 55-150 is going to cost quite a bit.

If the 55-200 is $349, I would suspect the 55-150 F2.8 to go for at least $999 (and that's being optimistic).

Exactly, and since the only time I really use the telezoom, I'm outside and don't really need the extra light, the expense wouldn't make it viable for me. Maybe if I was doing indoor wedding photography or something.

I would pay 500ish for a 17-50 2.8 emount. Anything more than that wouldn't be worth it for me.

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Re: Buying an emount f/2.8 zoom?

kcamacho11 wrote:

academytim wrote:

Definitely the 16ish to 55ish 2.8. I used a 17-50 2.8 Tamron with my A700 and it hardly ever came off of the camera. My sel3518 is now my primary lens, and I hardly ever use the kit zoom. I faster normal zoom would become my walk around lens with the 35 being used strictly for low light situations.

That 55-150 is going to cost quite a bit.

If the 55-200 is $349, I would suspect the 55-150 F2.8 to go for at least $999 (and that's being optimistic).

The Sigma APO 50-150mm F2.8 EX DC OS HSM has an msrp of $1,650, and seems to be selling around $1k. I can't imagine a Sony version being any cheaper than that.

Check the link, the Sigma weighs in at 1.4kg (47oz), 200/85mm (77mm thread).

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Re: Buying an emount f/2.8 zoom?

You use the 55-200 mainly indoors, thats why it's slow aperture doesnt bother you? Weird

I'd be all over a fast and stabilized 16-80, a 55-150 is Not exactly what i was looking for.
But could still end up being the next best thing if there won't be a good normalzoom. There are enough good lenses between 16mm and 60mm available.

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sportyaccordy Forum Pro • Posts: 11,852
Re: Buying an emount f/2.8 zoom?

Depends on how small it is and how much they wanted for it. So realistically probably not. I would not want something like the Canon 17-50 2.8 hanging off my NEX, that seems pointless.

I'd rather a good fast wide prime actually. If someone made a 20-24 f/1.4-2.0 with AF for <$600 I would do it. There's other avenues to the same FOV/speed as well, if weight isn't an issue. A cheap FX zoom + Lens Turbo would equate to something like a 2.0-2.5 zoom in some cases. So there are different ways to do it.

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academytim Regular Member • Posts: 204
Re: Buying an emount f/2.8 zoom?

You use the 55-200 mainly indoors, thats why it's slow aperture doesnt bother you? Weird

I'd be all over a fast and stabilized 16-80, a 55-150 is Not exactly what i was looking for.
But could still end up being the next best thing if there won't be a good normalzoom. There are enough good lenses between 16mm and 60mm available.

Who said they usually use the 55-210 indoors?

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Re: Buying an emount f/2.8 zoom?

That would be a perfect concert/sports/events lens. The current 55-210 is pretty unusable for all that -- it's slow, soft, with unreliable focusing, so-so image stabilization -- I finally got rid of it. I'm currently using manual Nikon 75-150/3.5, and it's a marvelous lens, very sharp, reasonably fast, and the size of 55-210. If Sony could make something similar or better, they can easily charge $1000-1500 and they will be flying off the shelves. But I'm afraid, all quality stuff is reserved for A-mount cameras, so if they start producing compact A-mount, that will be the place to be.

Alohaman wrote:

SAR has a rumor about the 55-150 f/2.8 zoom e mount and asked would you buy one? I voted "no". Half voted "yes" and the other half voted "no" or "I don't know". I have the 55-210 zoom and usually use in outdoors during the day, so its f/4.5-6.3 doesn't bother me. I usually don't need a fast zoom outdoors.

Now if the rumored 16-xx zoom comes out as a constant f/2.8, I'd be the first to buy one. I have a Canon EPS 17-55 f/2.8. It's a great walk around and good indoors in low light.

So if both rumored lenses (55-150 and 16-xx) come out as f/2.8, which one would you buy?

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That zoom for A-mount + the required adapter would make the entire package very bulky, though...

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Re: Buying an emount f/2.8 zoom?

You use the 55-200 mainly indoors, thats why it's slow aperture doesnt bother you? Weird

I'd be all over a fast and stabilized 16-80, a 55-150 is Not exactly what i was looking for.
But could still end up being the next best thing if there won't be a good normalzoom. There are enough good lenses between 16mm and 60mm available.

Who said they usually use the 55-210 indoors?

The Op said that.

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EinsteinsGhost
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Primes instead

That zoom for A-mount + the required adapter would make the entire package very bulky, though...

I would rather see development of a 200/2.8 and a 300/4 prime for E-mount especially if the next generation AF is designed for action/sports photography. For a zoom, 50-200/4 may do it within size and cost constraints.

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docvale Regular Member • Posts: 215
Re: Primes instead
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Respectfully, I disagree.

I see such large lenses on a DSLR.

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academytim Regular Member • Posts: 204
Re: Buying an emount f/2.8 zoom?

You use the 55-200 mainly indoors, thats why it's slow aperture doesnt bother you? Weird

I'd be all over a fast and stabilized 16-80, a 55-150 is Not exactly what i was looking for.
But could still end up being the next best thing if there won't be a good normalzoom. There are enough good lenses between 16mm and 60mm available.

Who said they usually use the 55-210 indoors?

The Op said that.

"I have the 55-210 zoom and usually use in outdoors during the day, so its f/4.5-6.3 doesn't bother me. I usually don't need a fast zoom outdoors."

Maybe worded a little funny, but he definitely said he uses it primarily outdoors.

I agree though, I don't want a large, bulky native telezoom. The 55-210 is perfect for what I use it for. A fast normal zoom would be beneficial though, again...as long as it isn't too bulky.

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PeterNMIF Senior Member • Posts: 2,438
But the rumor is about a "G" lens. Right?

This implies it will be pretty high quality.  That would be nice, in spite of the likely high price.

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No on both, but give me a 2x TC and I'm in...
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Don't have a need or interest in either lens.

But if they would be kind enough to offer an e-mount specific, matched 2x TC that can pair with the 55-150mm F2.8 to help it become a 110-300mm F5.6, then I might well be interested.  If the 2x was of very high quality, G series, specifically designed to be paired with that lens, it could produce very good image quality and at F5.6 still be plenty fast for 300mm in daylight.

I'm still waiting and hoping for something in the 300-400mm optical focal range for e-mount - prime, zoom, whatever!

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Re: Primes instead

Respectfully, I disagree.

I see such large lenses on a DSLR.

I have one such lens designed for full frame and you'd be hard pressed to find a smaller f/2.8 lens that zooms to tjat FL. That lens is Minolta 200G.

Zoom, larger sensor and larger aperture is a recipe for larger lens.

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Re: Buying an emount f/2.8 zoom?

You use the 55-200 mainly indoors, thats why it's slow aperture doesnt bother you? Weird

I'd be all over a fast and stabilized 16-80, a 55-150 is Not exactly what i was looking for.
But could still end up being the next best thing if there won't be a good normalzoom. There are enough good lenses between 16mm and 60mm available.

Who said they usually use the 55-210 indoors?

The Op said that.

"I have the 55-210 zoom and usually use in outdoors during the day, so its f/4.5-6.3 doesn't bother me. I usually don't need a fast zoom outdoors."

Maybe worded a little funny, but he definitely said he uses it primarily outdoors.

I agree though, I don't want a large, bulky native telezoom. The 55-210 is perfect for what I use it for. A fast normal zoom would be beneficial though, again...as long as it isn't too bulky.

Oops, my fault then. My brain somehow left "out" away when i read that.

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