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A few questions/confirmations regarding Flash Units and the NX300

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Ben Herrmann
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A few questions/confirmations regarding Flash Units and the NX300

Hello all....

I have a few questions regarding the NX300 and various flash units.  I'm definitely not a new poster - well, on this forum I am - but lately I've been eyeing the NX300 for purchase.  Right now I shoot quite a bit with a large variety of micro 4/3 cameras, along with the Fuji X-E1 - all of which I absolutely love.

The last time I owned a Samsung camera was when I had the 815 Pro and that seems like ages ago.  So I have my memory jogged with regards to a few things here.,  As of late, the NX300 has me really intrigued.

OK - so now on to the specific quesitons.  One of the major aspects for me - with regards to any particular camera brand - is the type of external flash units that are available.  I do quite a bit of indoor flash photography.

1.  There is one Samsung dedicated TTL flash I'm eyeing and it's the Samsung ED-SEF42A unit (which is modeled on the Sunpak model 42 - which is a great flash to begin with).  But wherever I see it listed, it shows that it was made for the NX10?  Does this mean that this particular flash is a specific model dependent unit - the NX10?  Or, is this flash good on any of the Samsung Mirrorless ILC's?  Here's the link to it at the B&H site:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/708433-REG/Samsung_ED_SEF42A_ED_SEF42A_External_Flash_for.html

2.  The other questions centers around 3rd party flash units - which there are quite a few.  I'm looking at a few Metz units, but I noticed that their TTL dedication shows a Pentax/Samsung dedication.   Am I to assume that to this date - even with the Samsung Mirrorless ILC's - that any flash dedicated to Pentax units, will also function superbly with Samsung cameras?

Thanking you in advance for your input.  As I mentioned, I have a vast collection of cameras (yeah, I know - since 2002, when I first joined the DPReview forums, I've managed to amass quite a few toys, but photography is my passion, so it's not just a matter of gear lust).  I find that many of these cameras complement each other quite well.  Having said that, the color tonality, overall look and definition of those NX300 images has me turning my head big time.

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tecnoworld
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Re: A few questions/confirmations regarding Flash Units and the NX300

Hello Ben, I'm really happy to read you here. I own the metz 44, for nx, it's very good and capable.

Be aware that there is also a version for older samsung dslr cameras based on pentax design, that is different and does not work with nx!

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Ben Herrmann
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Thanks....but what about that Samsung flash I mentioned?

...where it states that it's for the NX10?  Will it function fine with other NX cameras (all TTL functionality)?

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Re: Thanks....but what about that Samsung flash I mentioned?

Yup, all the nx are compatible, flash wise. But the metz is a better unit, imho.

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Ben Herrmann
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Thanks again, I'll check into the Metz unit...

NT

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Re: A few questions/confirmations regarding Flash Units and the NX300

Ben Herrmann wrote:

Hello all....

I have a few questions regarding the NX300 and various flash units. I'm definitely not a new poster - well, on this forum I am - but lately I've been eyeing the NX300 for purchase. Right now I shoot quite a bit with a large variety of micro 4/3 cameras, along with the Fuji X-E1 - all of which I absolutely love.

The last time I owned a Samsung camera was when I had the 815 Pro and that seems like ages ago. So I have my memory jogged with regards to a few things here., As of late, the NX300 has me really intrigued.

OK - so now on to the specific quesitons. One of the major aspects for me - with regards to any particular camera brand - is the type of external flash units that are available. I do quite a bit of indoor flash photography.

1. There is one Samsung dedicated TTL flash I'm eyeing and it's the Samsung ED-SEF42A unit (which is modeled on the Sunpak model 42 - which is a great flash to begin with). But wherever I see it listed, it shows that it was made for the NX10? Does this mean that this particular flash is a specific model dependent unit - the NX10? Or, is this flash good on any of the Samsung Mirrorless ILC's? Here's the link to it at the B&H site:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/708433-REG/Samsung_ED_SEF42A_ED_SEF42A_External_Flash_for.html

2. The other questions centers around 3rd party flash units - which there are quite a few. I'm looking at a few Metz units, but I noticed that their TTL dedication shows a Pentax/Samsung dedication. Am I to assume that to this date - even with the Samsung Mirrorless ILC's - that any flash dedicated to Pentax units, will also function superbly with Samsung cameras?

Thanking you in advance for your input. As I mentioned, I have a vast collection of cameras (yeah, I know - since 2002, when I first joined the DPReview forums, I've managed to amass quite a few toys, but photography is my passion, so it's not just a matter of gear lust). I find that many of these cameras complement each other quite well. Having said that, the color tonality, overall look and definition of those NX300 images has me turning my head big time.

Hiya Ben, sorry I can't help you with the flash issue, as I only have the dicky little Samsnug unit that comes with the camera. But I do have a few NX 300 images in my gallery if you'd like a look.

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/8941176905

Also there are some at Flickr if you'd like a peek.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/taffy54/sets/72157633596682702/

I hope these have been of use to you.

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Ben Herrmann
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Yes, thanks for the links...

Like I said, the color tonality and overall look of these NX300 images can turn a few heads.  Over the next few days I'll be pulling the trigger on the NX300, extra batteries, and one or two flash units.  Am looking forward to it.

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Re: Yes, thanks for the links...
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Ben Herrmann wrote:

Like I said, the color tonality and overall look of these NX300 images can turn a few heads. Over the next few days I'll be pulling the trigger on the NX300, extra batteries, and one or two flash units. Am looking forward to it.

While you're at it mate, you may want to get yourself one of these anti glare screen protectors off amazon. The one big problem with the NX 300 is, you can't see the screen in bright sunlight, and there is no VF available, either as an add on or a third party add on unit. With this protector everthing works as it should do, and the otem is easy to fit. If you click the link below, you can see what it looks like before and after fitting.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51860879

Here is the link for the protector itself, they really are worth it mate.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vikuiti-hard-coated-dirt-repellent-anti-reflective-residue-free/dp/B00BDJ8ESW/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1374661509&sr=8-6&keywords=NX+300+screen+protector

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Regards, Allan.

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Re: A few questions/confirmations regarding Flash Units and the NX300

Ben Herrmann wrote:

Hello all....

I have a few questions regarding the NX300 and various flash units. I'm definitely not a new poster - well, on this forum I am - but lately I've been eyeing the NX300 for purchase. Right now I shoot quite a bit with a large variety of micro 4/3 cameras, along with the Fuji X-E1 - all of which I absolutely love.

The last time I owned a Samsung camera was when I had the 815 Pro and that seems like ages ago. So I have my memory jogged with regards to a few things here., As of late, the NX300 has me really intrigued.

OK - so now on to the specific quesitons. One of the major aspects for me - with regards to any particular camera brand - is the type of external flash units that are available. I do quite a bit of indoor flash photography.

1. There is one Samsung dedicated TTL flash I'm eyeing and it's the Samsung ED-SEF42A unit (which is modeled on the Sunpak model 42 - which is a great flash to begin with). But wherever I see it listed, it shows that it was made for the NX10? Does this mean that this particular flash is a specific model dependent unit - the NX10? Or, is this flash good on any of the Samsung Mirrorless ILC's? Here's the link to it at the B&H site:

As already mentioned, it's an NX compatible flash. The only incompatible part may be the AF Assist lamp. As far as I'm aware even though they appear to have AF-Assist lamps, none of the Sunpak derived flashes for Samsung or Fuji actually do anything despite being shown in their manual's illustrations. The ones sold under the Sunpak name (such as the PZ42X versions for Canon, Nikon and Sony) have functioning AF Assist lamps, at least according to B&H's spec's. The Sunpak flashes sold under Samsung's and Fuji's label (ED-SEF42A and EF-42) don't.

In addition, the Fuji EF-42 is slightly more expensive ($156) but the Samsung version is much more expensive ($229). If I recall correctly, when I last checked about a year or two ago, the Sunpak labeled flashes included a 4-pack of NiMH AA batteries and a charger. Now they just throw in an alkaline AA 4-pack.

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Ben

I look forward to your comments re the NX300 after you've had a chance to shoot with it.

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Mr.NoFlash Senior Member • Posts: 2,374
Re: A few questions/confirmations regarding Flash Units and the NX300
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Hello,

as you see, the NX line has one NX-specific flash mount which is incompatible to the PentaxSamsung flash mount.

Just a few words about NX:

The Nx300 is the first Samsung NX which has a quite good JPG engine, i will look if it has over average good colors. All jpg engines of the older than nx300 nx-cameras are not so great.

So you see a system which becomes better in big steps.

But the point of the NX system are - as with Olympus and Fuji X - the lenses. Samsung delivers some very good prime lenses, and this for a very competitive price.

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tecnoworld
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Re: A few questions/confirmations regarding Flash Units and the NX300

I think nx is the faster growing mirrorless system, if you look at incremental improvements among generations. I have high hopesnfornthe future bodies and lenses, I hope not to be disappointed!!

And I'm still waiting for a rangefinder style nx body.

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Well, like you....

I keep an open mind about a variety of brand cameras.  I'm no one-brand fanboy - that's for sure.  Just ordered the NX300 (in brown) with the 18-55.

With my being fully retired now I can easily focus my efforts between several of my hobbies/activities - which are physical fitness/weight training, digital photography, and rifle/pistol marksmanship.

Don't know what you're shooting with at the moment, but I have seen you (and still do) on a variety of forums with great input, so that's good.  I'm currently shooting with the likes of the Fuji X-E1, Olympus OMD E-M5, E-PL5, E-P3, Panasonic GF1, GF5, GX1, G5, and the Canon EOS M.  Am still maintaining my older regular 4/3 models of the classic E-1, E-3, and E-30 because of their great IQ (IMO, that is) - plus a variety of enthusiast models (i.e. Fuji X10, X20, Nikon P7100, P7700, P330, P510 Canon G12, SX-50HS, S100, Panny LX5, and Olympus XZ-1).  Yeah, I know....I'm a friekin' camera whore to say the least - and have been since 2002...sigh!  What can I say, it keeps me occupied (and out of trouble) 

My end game is IQ, and it is here where (from what I've seen) the NX300 really excels.  The images seem to have that often-elusive rich, dynamic color tonality and a palpable "you are there" feel to them.  I guess I should have added, "well-taken images that is," because we all know that in some hands, even having a $10,000 camera can net horrible results, whereas in other more adept hands, a simple point and shoot can net images that look professional.

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tecnoworld
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Re: Well, like you....

As I said weeks ago elsewhere, I'm looking forward to having a comment on the NX300 from such an experienced photographer as you are.

I think that NX community will gain a lot by having you among us.

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Thanks....

I hope to contribute.....

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Re: Well, like you....

great picture quality. look something between leica and sigma.  I think close to sigma. what like with nx300 is response and easy use. I know eos M is good picture also and control can be tasky, but how different in picture?

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OK - let's see if I can follow what you're saying....

...You see, you post in bits and pieces, meaning like incomplete thoughts, so trying to figure out what you're trying to say is a bit difficult.

I think you were asking about the EOS-M picture quality, if I'm not mistaken (correct me here).  OK, previously I had never even considered getting the EOS-M.  After all, weren't there enough mirrorless cameras on the market!  But then I saw a few photos - taken by some pros that had me turning my head also.  So I went to the local Mom and Pop camera store (yes, they still have a few of 'em left) and started playing with it.  Well, I was hooked, so I picked one up.  At the time the AF was a bit slow, but Canon's latest firmware update 2.02 really fixed all of that...and then some.

It's hard to imagine a camera that small with a DSLR-sized 18 MP sensor in it.  The kit 18-55 lens is built like a tank (all metal) and has superb optics (well, at least my copy).  The color tonality of that camera is typical Canon - that is rich with a nice tonality.  High ISO capabilities are nice also.  I'm glad that I picked it up and it was a welcomed addition to my collection.  I strongly suggest to anyone (now-a-days) that if you can still find them at the blow-out prices (check Amazon, Adorama, or B&H) where they sell the EOS-M with 22 MM prime for only $299, or the EOS-M with 18-55 zoom for $349 - to jump on it without second thought.  At those prices, this photographic instrument with optics is a masterpiece - a steal, really.

As I mentioned in an earlier reply, I can take just about any camera and get very good results with it.  You just have to learn the camera - it's strengths and weaknesses, and then work to their favor.  So I'm delighted with all that I currently have.  And I'm certainly looking forward to adding the NX300 (which I ordered yesterday).

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Re: OK - let's see if I can follow what you're saying....

thank you.  yes that is my question. I think good compact camera for people liking canon result.

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Re; Metz use with Samsung nx range

Can anyone please advise me if as recently I acquired the Galaxy NX ANDROID camera.

I read that Metz AF 44af were now compatible with the complete NX range?

I duly purchased the Metz  AF 44 and on introduction to the camera the O/S went erratic i.e screen blinking, hesitant shudder release (if any) it seems there is some issue, neither Samsung no &  Metz have definitively told me that whilst my camera is in the NX line up, that there should not be a problem. But there is! I can only surmise the android system could be the issue.

I work abroad, as such on returning home my sale of return had expired on the flash, I now possess a once tried boxed flash U/S to me.

Ps Metz said yes to NX but not sure of the latest (Galaxy nx Android ek GN 120)

Has anyone any ideas or knowledge of this possible incompatibility ?

Many thanks

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my "metz 44 af-1 for samsung " works good with the nx300 [nt]

my "metz 44 af-1 for samsung " works good with the nx300 [nt]

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