Do you typically shoot in P or M?

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bobn2
bobn2 Forum Pro • Posts: 42,651
Re: Do you typically shoot in P or M?
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ARB1 wrote:

Of course most of us seasoned folks shot M growing up since that's all there was, but with the advancements in photographic technology I wonder if folks are shooting in M far less. I'm currently reading 'Understanding Exposure', and while I used M a good bit I'm going start shooting more in M to take back control of my camera and shooting.

So I was just wondering how many folks shoot M almost exclusively?

The problem with 'Understanding Exposure' is that the author doesn't understand exposure. The real base question is what are you trying to adjust exposure for. That book, and most people here change exposure to change image brightness, and that is how the UI of most cameras (including the auto modes) are designed. the trouble with it is, in a digital world it doesn't make much sense ( that does not mean that I am suggesting that anyone who likes working that way doesn't have the perfect right to do so). In a digital world the optimum exposure is the biggest that you can get, subject to all your pictorial constraints (DOF, motion blur) and the best way to get that is simply to set the maximum aperture and minimum shutter speed that you can (so long as you don't saturate the sensor) and the only way really to do that is M mode.

Now, if your aim when adjusting exposure is to adjust JPEG image brightness, and you'll always do just what the camera suggests, then no point not taking out the middleman and using an auto mode.

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StillLearning
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Re: Do you typically shoot in P or M?

ARB1 wrote:

Of course most of us seasoned folks shot M growing up since that's all there was, but with the advancements in photographic technology I wonder if folks are shooting in M far less.  I'm currently reading 'Understanding Exposure', and while I used M a good bit I'm going start shooting more in M to take back control of my camera and shooting.

So I was just wondering how many folks shoot M almost exclusively?

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Allen
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Mostly M, some A. No S or P.

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rcower Senior Member • Posts: 1,162
Re: Do you typically shoot in P or M?

Usually in A, but I will switch to M when needed.

Bluephotons Veteran Member • Posts: 4,626
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lbj1891 Regular Member • Posts: 231
Mainly M

You can usually find my camera in M. It's bad enough that we have AF, in camera meters, sensors, SD cards that you can continuously rewrite on, and LCD screens for instant review. I think M mode helps me to be a 'photographer' in the midst of all that.

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T O Shooter Senior Member • Posts: 5,048
I wouldn't read through 65 replies on such a foolish topic but Ken Rockwell says

"P" stands for "Professional" What more do you need to know?   

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bobn2
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Re: I wouldn't read through 65 replies on such a foolish topic but Ken Rockwell says
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T O Shooter wrote:

"P" stands for "Professional" What more do you need to know?

and then there's "A" for "Amateur", "S" for "Stupid" and "M" for "Muppet".

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T O Shooter Senior Member • Posts: 5,048
Re: I wouldn't read through 65 replies on such a foolish topic but Ken Rockwell says

Bobn2 wrote:

T O Shooter wrote:

"P" stands for "Professional" What more do you need to know?

and then there's "A" for "Amateur", "S" for "Stupid" and "M" for "Muppet".

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Sorry, but only the "P" for "Professonal" has the endorsement of Ken. Can't accept it from any lesser person.

And a quick look at a couple of early post finds CraigBennett uses "A" and "S"  Are you saying, using CraigBennett as an example, that he's amateur and stupid??????  Don't think that's tolerated here!    

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Alan Brown
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Hmmm, toleration; Now there's a novelty

T O Shooter wrote:

Bobn2 wrote:

T O Shooter wrote:

"P" stands for "Professional" What more do you need to know?

and then there's "A" for "Amateur", "S" for "Stupid" and "M" for "Muppet".

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Sorry, but only the "P" for "Professonal" has the endorsement of Ken. Can't accept it from any lesser person.

And a quick look at a couple of early post finds CraigBennett uses "A" and "S" Are you saying, using CraigBennett as an example, that he's amateur and stupid?????? Don't think that's tolerated here!

Sometimes it is extinct here, for some threads.

Live and let live..

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There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness.' :'!':

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Mark Tuccillo Contributing Member • Posts: 761
Re: Do you typically shoot in P or M?

When I'm shooting nearly always A, with auto iso about 50% of the time. If I hand the camera to someone (usually my wife), I switch to U2 which is auto ISO and P.

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Donald Chin
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Re: Do you typically shoot in P or M?

M mode, Auto ISO for available light. P mode, Auto ISO for flash.

Klaus dk
Klaus dk Veteran Member • Posts: 3,367
Yes! And in Tv and Av and "green square idiot mode"...

... because I bought a computer to do all the boring stuff.

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Re: Do you typically shoot in P or M?

M

Thomas Toolan Regular Member • Posts: 208
Re: Do you typically shoot in P or M?

I hardly ever shoot in P. Almost always in A, sometimes in S if I need to freeze action, sometimes in M if I feel I can do better than the meter. So I would say the two modes I shoot least in are P or M. I put the camera into P if I'm handing the camera over to someone who doesn't know what they're doing.

Tom

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CFynn Veteran Member • Posts: 5,224
Re: Do you typically shoot in P or M?

CraigBennett wrote:

Mostly in M, a lot in A, sometimes in S, and practically never in P.

Some folks advocate using P when outside and wanting Nikon fill flash to work well. They call this "Professional" mode. I find I prefer to go to A or S mode and dial up or down my FEC to my taste.

P for "Professional mode" sounds like Mr KR

Maybe P is the mode to use when you are taking a photo while piѕѕed drunk

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tryguy Regular Member • Posts: 302
Re: Do you typically shoot in P or M?

100% in "M".

MikeInIndy Senior Member • Posts: 1,077
Re: Do you typically shoot in P or M?

Mostly S, most of the rest is split between A and M, depends on the camera though.  With a non-recall camera (EG D300/D200) I used A for "fast shutter" by maxing aperture and locking a high minimum shutter in auto-iso and S for "slow shutter" to dial in motion blur for panning, allowing me to quickly fiddle the dial between the two modes to change shutter speed instead of spinning the dial and hoping I remember to spin it the right direction, I always have a hard time with the "in finder" indicators so I prefer to have the camera set to the simplest way to switch between two different settings.  Which is why I love the D7k/D600 I shoot with now, U1/U2 take care of these needs even more elegantly.  If I want to do something funky like shoot into strongly backlit or evening shots i'll go M and meter to a point that is true to "background" so when I'm shooting into the lights I still get a good exposure on the car.  As you can probably tell I shoot mainly motorsports, and some air shows, when I'm shooting anything else I tend to stick with A mostly, and P is primarily if I'm going to hand someone my camera.

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Re: Do you typically shoot in P or M?

ARB1 wrote:

Of course most of us seasoned folks shot M growing up since that's all there was, but with the advancements in photographic technology I wonder if folks are shooting in M far less. I'm currently reading 'Understanding Exposure', and while I used M a good bit I'm going start shooting more in M to take back control of my camera and shooting.

So I was just wondering how many folks shoot M almost exclusively?

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Allen
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I shoot mostly in A, with either matrix or spot metering.  I use M for indoor flash or when the meter doesn't work reliably eg night. I might use P the odd time when I'm using flash for fill in bright sun.

A>M>>P>>>S

I can't see any reason to shoot in M exclusively, I prefer to let my camera do as much work as possible.  The less I have to think about the camera, the more I can think about my subject and the scene I'm shooting.  I don't get any fuzzies from doing everything myself; if i want to do that, I can go shoot my Yashica D, my Kodak Retina or my Pentax Spotmatic

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Tim A2 Senior Member • Posts: 1,099
M plus fixed or auto ISO?

My guess is those who feeel strongly about using M only use fixed ISO. Of course if your camera is "ISOless" it is a mute point if you don't review your shot in the LCD display. By the way it is M plus auto ISO for me (Tav on my camera).

OliverNZ
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Re: Do you typically shoot in P or M?

ARB1 wrote:

Of course most of us seasoned folks shot M growing up since that's all there was, but with the advancements in photographic technology I wonder if folks are shooting in M far less. I'm currently reading 'Understanding Exposure', and while I used M a good bit I'm going start shooting more in M to take back control of my camera and shooting.

So I was just wondering how many folks shoot M almost exclusively?

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Allen
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Howdy,

Always in M. No matter what camera I have at the time M is it. Base ISO is always locked in as well.

I hardly ever setup customizations either. A button to do B&W or Raw is the only setup!

I have the touchscreen turned off on my OM-D. Never use video. Ode for a camera without all that stuff  that doesn't break the bank!!

Oliver

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