IS of prime 14 and 20mm lens

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Phillip Tornero Contributing Member • Posts: 601
IS of prime 14 and 20mm lens

Hello all. My question to the forum is this, It has been stated that neither the Panasonic prime 20mm or 14mm prime use IS. My quick question to you all is this: will the Panasonic body add the needed IS or are these lenses manual focus only? Thank you all for your answers. Im thinking the camera body will compensate IS for the lenses, but I could be mistaken.

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PC Wheeler
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Re: IS of prime 14 and 20mm lens

They are Auto-Focus lenses, but not image stabilized; no real need for such wide lenses.

Panasonic bodies do not add IS; if there it's in the lenses.  But, again, no need for these lenses.

Olympus bodies do include IS (called IBIS).

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shihhan Regular Member • Posts: 307
Re: IS of prime 14 and 20mm lens

Phillip Tornero wrote:

Hello all. My question to the forum is this, It has been stated that neither the Panasonic prime 20mm or 14mm prime use IS. My quick question to you all is this: will the Panasonic body add the needed IS or are these lenses manual focus only? Thank you all for your answers. Im thinking the camera body will compensate IS for the lenses, but I could be mistaken.

Panasonic bodies do not have IBIS (unlike Olympus bodies).
Most primes do not have OIS (except the PL 45 f2.8 macro).

Any lens on Oly = stabilised (due to IBIS)
Most Primes on Panny = unstabilised

That being said, IS has kinda been overhyped... it isn't really needed for short focal length primes, and can't really make up for fast glass anyway.

(+ back in the old days of manual focus, no one had IS, even on massive focal lengths)

RaymondR
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While I would generally agree that IS is of limited utility for wide angle lenses (and I question whether the 20mm is a wide angle lens in the m4/3 world) and has generally been over hyped, as an Oly PEN owner that has both of these lenses, I will dissent from the view that there is NO need for IS on these lenses -- having stabilization can be helpful on both the 14 and 20 when shooting handheld in low light with longer shutter speeds.  Don't want to start an Oly vs. Panny flame war, but this is one advantage of the Oly bodies over the Panny bodies. I have some slow shutter speed museum shots taken with the 20 that I am pretty sure would have been noticeably less sharp with the Oly IBIS.

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ntsan Contributing Member • Posts: 836
Re: IS of prime 14 and 20mm lens

Upcoming Panasonic GX successor is rumored to have IBIS

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jeffharris Veteran Member • Posts: 8,541
Re: IS of prime 14 and 20mm lens

Phillip Tornero wrote:

Hello all. My question to the forum is this, It has been stated that neither the Panasonic prime 20mm or 14mm prime use IS. My quick question to you all is this: will the Panasonic body add the needed IS, or are these lenses manual focus only?

Needed IS? Seriously?

They're auto-focus pancake primes.

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tjuster1 Senior Member • Posts: 1,895
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RaymondR wrote:

While I would generally agree that IS is of limited utility for wide angle lenses (and I question whether the 20mm is a wide angle lens in the m4/3 world) and has generally been over hyped, as an Oly PEN owner that has both of these lenses, I will dissent from the view that there is NO need for IS on these lenses -- having stabilization can be helpful on both the 14 and 20 when shooting handheld in low light with longer shutter speeds. Don't want to start an Oly vs. Panny flame war, but this is one advantage of the Oly bodies over the Panny bodies. I have some slow shutter speed museum shots taken with the 20 that I am pretty sure would have been noticeably less sharp with the Oly IBIS.

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I'd go a step further. IS is never 'needed'--it's always something that enables you to take shots at slower shutter speeds than you would without it. It's always subject to the constraint that the subject not be moving.

Given this constraint, IS is a relative advantage that works just as much for WA lenses than telephoto lenses. If you can hand-hold your 14mm at 1/16 of a second without IS, then you should be able to hand-hold that lens at 1/2 of a second with it (assuming 3 stops of stabilization). For certain shooting conditions, that advantage may make the difference between getting a shot and not getting it. I frequently take pictures in low light, and I find IBIS invaluable when shooting with the 12mm, 14mm, and 20mm lenses.

So please don't think that IS is less effective with shorter lenses; it's just that for many shooting situations, there's no need to go down to the types of shutter speeds that would make it necessary. For other situations--like the museum example RanmondR posted above--IS might be the only way to get the shot without a tripod.

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Impulses Veteran Member • Posts: 6,347
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The way the original post is phrased almost sounds like he got AF mixed up with IS...

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Anders W Forum Pro • Posts: 21,468
Re: IS of prime 14 and 20mm lens

shihhan wrote:

Phillip Tornero wrote:

Hello all. My question to the forum is this, It has been stated that neither the Panasonic prime 20mm or 14mm prime use IS. My quick question to you all is this: will the Panasonic body add the needed IS or are these lenses manual focus only? Thank you all for your answers. Im thinking the camera body will compensate IS for the lenses, but I could be mistaken.

Panasonic bodies do not have IBIS (unlike Olympus bodies).
Most primes do not have OIS (except the PL 45 f2.8 macro).

Any lens on Oly = stabilised (due to IBIS)
Most Primes on Panny = unstabilised

That being said, IS has kinda been overhyped... it isn't really needed for short focal length primes,

What is your defintion of "needed"? I often shoot shorter FLs at shutter speeds such that IS is required to have decent chances of a sharp shot (when a tripod is inconvenient, too time-consuming, or not permitted).

and can't really make up for fast glass anyway.

Depends on the situation. Sometimes IS works when a faster lens would not (depending on what DoF you need).

(+ back in the old days of manual focus, no one had IS, even on massive focal lengths)

So what?

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