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Canon 85mm 1.8 vs Sigma 70-200 2.8?

Started May 13, 2013 | Questions
theonlychuck New Member • Posts: 1
Canon 85mm 1.8 vs Sigma 70-200 2.8?

Hello, new member here and I have a question for those of you that have used the above lenses.  I already own the kit lenses (18-55 and 55-250, both IS), a canon 50mm 1.8, and a Tamron 28-75 2.8.  My question is for my next lens, do you suggest the Canon 85mm 1.8 or the Sigma 70-200 2.8?  I have a Canon T1i and shoot on the side (not my main business obviously).  When I do have jobs, they are typically family shots or birthdays (which the 50mm and Tamron 28-75 have served well for).  I am a second shooter for a couple weddings coming up and wanted your opinions on if the lighter, faster, and cheaper Canon 85mm 1.8 might be a better choice than the Sigma 70-200 2.8.  I do have an external flash, but also enjoy shooting natural light portraits.

I just did a test shot in my living room with no flash and found with my 50mm I can shoot at 1/40 at 1.8 and only 1/10-1/15 at 2.8, which is way too slow for my needs..  I have always liked the idea of the 70-200 2.8, but now I'm starting to think the 85mm might be a better choice for me as my next lens, and maybe save up for the 70-200 2.8 after that.  I'm thinking the faster indoor (ie reception hall) and faster auto focus motor might be the winning attributes right now.  Any comments and feedback are appreciated, and no, the Canon 70-200 2.8 IS is not in my budget =/

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Canon EF 85mm F1.8 USM Canon EOS 500D (EOS Rebel T1i / EOS Kiss X3) Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG Macro HSM II
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PStoffel New Member • Posts: 11
Re: Canon 85mm 1.8 vs Sigma 70-200 2.8?

That is an interesting question.  I currently own the 85mm 1.8 lens and I am looking at adding this one to my camera bag.  My lens choices are similar to yours so far:  Tamrom 17-50mm 2.8; Tamron 10-24mm; the "nifty fifty' 1.8; and the above mentioned 85mm.   I don't think that they 70-200 is going to get as much use as the 17-50 which is my main "walk around" lens, but last year I found myself shoot my 6 year old's soccer match with an old Canon 70-210 f4 from 1988 and I realized that I needed something better.  I am sure that the situation is going to come up again and again where I will want the extra reach of the 70-200.  For example, this summer at the beach I wanted to get my kids playing in the sand with the background blurred and shoot while not on top of them.  The 85 did the trick but I would have preferred a 70-200 because at 1.8 and ISO of 100 I was still hitting the upper limit of the shutter speed (1/4000 - 1/8000).  Once you have to stop down anyway to 2.8 might as well have a little more flexibility even at the cost of "prime sharpness".

That is my 2-cents worth.  I hope that helps your thought process.

By the way, if/when I do get this 70-200 I am not getting rid of my 85mm.  It is one of the sharpest lenses I own and it fits well in my bag when I am not travelling 'heavy'...

~Peter

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007peter Forum Pro • Posts: 12,933
"Event Shoot" is better done with a Sigma 70-200 2.8?
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I had them both.  One is very compact & lightweight, the sigma is bigger and heavier.  Prime are great for casual shoot, where taking time out swapping lens isn't a problem.

But if I'm the 2nd shooter in a Wedding, where each moment count, I would much rather have any 70-200mm f/2.8 zoom.  The flexibility of different focal length + freedom from changing lens is gold in event shoot.

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Alex HK New Member • Posts: 1
Re: Canon 85mm 1.8 vs Sigma 70-200 2.8?

That is an interesting question.  I currently own the 85mm 1.8 lens and I am looking at adding this one to my camera bag.  My lens choices are similar to yours so far:  Tamrom 17-50mm 2.8; Tamron 10-24mm; the "nifty fifty' 1.8; and the above mentioned 85mm.   I don't think that they 70-200 is going to get as much use as the 17-50 which is my main "walk around" lens, but last year I found myself shoot my 6 year old's soccer match with an old Canon 70-210 f4 from 1988 and I realized that I needed something better.  I am sure that the situation is going to come up again and again where I will want the extra reach of the 70-200.  For example, this summer at the beach I wanted to get my kids playing in the sand with the background blurred and shoot while not on top of them.  The 85 did the trick but I would have preferred a 70-200 because at 1.8 and ISO of 100 I was still hitting the upper limit of the shutter speed (1/4000 - 1/8000).  Once you have to stop down anyway to 2.8 might as well have a little more flexibility even at the cost of "prime sharpness".

That is my 2-cents worth.  I hope that helps your thought process.

By the way, if/when I do get this 70-200 I am not getting rid of my 85mm.  It is one of the sharpest lenses I own and it fits well in my bag when I am not travelling 'heavy'...

~Peter

I have a Sigma 70-200/2.8 HSM (forgot which generation), and a Canon 100/2.
I like the 100/2 much better, better quality and much lighter. I also have a Kenko 1.4TC and prefer this with the 100/2 over the Sigma.

Yan Duval Regular Member • Posts: 199
Re: Canon 85mm 1.8 vs Sigma 70-200 2.8?

I recall reading somewhere that from the T1i to the T2i , there was a big 1 stop step improvement in sensor noise.  I don't know if this is true, but if yes, you could upgrade to a a T2i or T3i for next to nothing and compensate for the slower lenses.

Theses lenses are also easy to rent.  I would buy the 85 and rent 70-200 lenses for the weddings when required.  I wouldn't rent a body because the ergonomics are tough to learn, but lenses are easier to accomodate.

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