Several unhappy x100s owners posting, but look at this and tell me...

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jsjjnbrunk Forum Member • Posts: 58
Re: Several unhappy x100s owners posting, but look at this and tell me...

JeFB wrote:

It all comes down to the person using it. It's the same with any camera.
Dpreview forum is not the best place to judge a camera output.

Amen!

Emacs23 Regular Member • Posts: 452
Re: Several unhappy x100s owners posting, but look at this and tell me...

jaxwired wrote:

nawknai wrote:

Lots of non-DSLR cameras can take photos of this quality.

The 3rd photo has terrible WB, IMO.  Perhaps it's my work laptop's screen quality, but I doubt it.

Post some examples.  I tried a sony nex6 with the $1100 zeiss lens and I feel the x100s beats it.

This so called "zeiss" only worth $500, not the price Sony traded it for.

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headofdestiny Veteran Member • Posts: 9,226
Re: Several unhappy x100s owners posting, but look at this and tell me...

Emacs23 wrote:

jaxwired wrote:

nawknai wrote:

Lots of non-DSLR cameras can take photos of this quality.

The 3rd photo has terrible WB, IMO.  Perhaps it's my work laptop's screen quality, but I doubt it.

Post some examples.  I tried a sony nex6 with the $1100 zeiss lens and I feel the x100s beats it.

This so called "zeiss" only worth $500, not the price Sony traded it for.

As a former owner of the NEX-7+24/1.8, X100, and now the X100s, I didn't have much to complain about with the Zeiss 24/1.8, and its build is better than any other native mirrorless AF lens out there, especially compared with X-mount lenses.  It is very much a "Zeiss."  My only complaint was the size.

The new Zeiss lenses for X-mount and E-mount are similar in build to the 24/1.8 and likely similar in price.

dengx Senior Member • Posts: 1,021
Re: Several unhappy x100s owners posting, but look at this and tell me...

udris wrote:

No complaint here about the 100s just prefer the colour rendition output of the x100.

ProNEG profiles are much closer to the original X100.

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=x100s%20proneg

Regards

sgoldswo
sgoldswo Senior Member • Posts: 5,611
Re: Several unhappy x100s owners posting, but look at this and tell me...

headofdestiny wrote:

Emacs23 wrote:

jaxwired wrote:

nawknai wrote:

Lots of non-DSLR cameras can take photos of this quality.

The 3rd photo has terrible WB, IMO.  Perhaps it's my work laptop's screen quality, but I doubt it.

Post some examples.  I tried a sony nex6 with the $1100 zeiss lens and I feel the x100s beats it.

This so called "zeiss" only worth $500, not the price Sony traded it for.

As a former owner of the NEX-7+24/1.8, X100, and now the X100s, I didn't have much to complain about with the Zeiss 24/1.8, and its build is better than any other native mirrorless AF lens out there, especially compared with X-mount lenses.  It is very much a "Zeiss."  My only complaint was the size.

The new Zeiss lenses for X-mount and E-mount are similar in build to the 24/1.8 and likely similar in price.

It's a nice lens, but optically it's not all that. It never seemed clear to me if it was designed to produce nice sharpness, colours or bokeh. It probably says a lot about the Zeiss that I preferred the output from the Sigma 30mm on the NEX-7. In any event, I didn't think it was up to the build quality of the XF lenses and the hood design is crackers.

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headofdestiny Veteran Member • Posts: 9,226
Re: Several unhappy x100s owners posting, but look at this and tell me...

sgoldswo wrote:

headofdestiny wrote:

Emacs23 wrote:

jaxwired wrote:

nawknai wrote:

Lots of non-DSLR cameras can take photos of this quality.

The 3rd photo has terrible WB, IMO.  Perhaps it's my work laptop's screen quality, but I doubt it.

Post some examples.  I tried a sony nex6 with the $1100 zeiss lens and I feel the x100s beats it.

This so called "zeiss" only worth $500, not the price Sony traded it for.

As a former owner of the NEX-7+24/1.8, X100, and now the X100s, I didn't have much to complain about with the Zeiss 24/1.8, and its build is better than any other native mirrorless AF lens out there, especially compared with X-mount lenses.  It is very much a "Zeiss."  My only complaint was the size.

The new Zeiss lenses for X-mount and E-mount are similar in build to the 24/1.8 and likely similar in price.

It's a nice lens, but optically it's not all that. It never seemed clear to me if it was designed to produce nice sharpness, colours or bokeh. It probably says a lot about the Zeiss that I preferred the output from the Sigma 30mm on the NEX-7. In any event, I didn't think it was up to the build quality of the XF lenses and the hood design is crackers.

Oh, I agree that the Sigma 30 is a sharper lens, but it's both longer and slower, being much easier to design.  I would imagine that the Sigma 30 is sharper than the X100s' lens across the frame, too.

The XF lenses are more plasticky in build than the ZA 24/1.8.  I agree about the hood, though, and, for some reason, even the ZA 85/1.4 and 135/1.8 have that silly two piece design that separates.

Enir4 Senior Member • Posts: 2,434
Re: Several unhappy x100s owners posting, but look at this and tell me...

atone2 wrote:

I´ll tell you why: Because the original X100 has better image quality!

Example: Pic nr 1. Look at his face and t-shirt. Where is the fine detail? It looks like plastic...

Does the XE1 have this same problem?

Enrique

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atone2 Regular Member • Posts: 319
Re: Several unhappy x100s owners posting, but look at this and tell me...

Enir4 wrote:

atone2 wrote:

I´ll tell you why: Because the original X100 has better image quality!

Example: Pic nr 1. Look at his face and t-shirt. Where is the fine detail? It looks like plastic...

Does the XE1 have this same problem?

Enrique

I was not pleased with the results from my X-E1 raws processed in Lightroom. I sold the camera in january, and don´t regret it. In my opinion the original X100 gives better files with great detail, nice tones and colour. Many on this forum does not agree with me, so you have to decide for yourself

I will buy into the X-system later if rawprocessing in LR gets much better (as good as with bayer sensors) or when Fuji starts to use regular sensors again. There is really something special about the "fuji approach", but it´s not quite there yet. IMHO!

Enir4 Senior Member • Posts: 2,434
Re: Several unhappy x100s owners posting, but look at this and tell me...

atone2 wrote:

Enir4 wrote:

atone2 wrote:

I´ll tell you why: Because the original X100 has better image quality!

Example: Pic nr 1. Look at his face and t-shirt. Where is the fine detail? It looks like plastic...

Does the XE1 have this same problem?

Enrique

I was not pleased with the results from my X-E1 raws processed in Lightroom. I sold the camera in january, and don´t regret it. In my opinion the original X100 gives better files with great detail, nice tones and colour. Many on this forum does not agree with me, so you have to decide for yourself

I will buy into the X-system later if rawprocessing in LR gets much better (as good as with bayer sensors) or when Fuji starts to use regular sensors again. There is really something special about the "fuji approach", but it´s not quite there yet. IMHO!

Thank you! I bought my second X100, a son stole my first one...
Enrique

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stevenjames
stevenjames Senior Member • Posts: 1,193
Re: Several unhappy x100s owners posting, but look at this and tell me...

jaxwired wrote:

...another compact camera that can take shots like this.  I have not seen results like this from anything else short of a DSLR...

My only complaint w/these photos are the color? They are too cyan/green/yellow try adding red/magenta.

Steve

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sgoldswo
sgoldswo Senior Member • Posts: 5,611
Re: Several unhappy x100s owners posting, but look at this and tell me...

Enir4 wrote:

atone2 wrote:

I´ll tell you why: Because the original X100 has better image quality!

Example: Pic nr 1. Look at his face and t-shirt. Where is the fine detail? It looks like plastic...

Does the XE1 have this same problem?

Enrique

no

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