Lenses for a D4

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net_walker Contributing Member • Posts: 812
Lenses for a D4

Ok, when I get back home to Oz at the end of August I will be buying myself a D4. Do I deserve it?

Yes...

Am I good enough for it?

No...

Will I get it none the less?

Yes...

So, I currently own the 80-200 2.8 and 50 1.4g as well as the 28-300 for my travel lens to Europe in a few months. Sigma 10-20 as I use a D7000 atm.

I have really like shooting the few Forces Entertainment concerts so the D4 low noise use is what I want. But generally will be doing a lot of different things. Dropped my 105 macro just before x-mas and killed it off

Suggestions on lens recommendations appreciated. I read that the 70-200 F4 is not a bad lens  but not sure if it will hold up to night shooting handheld, but then again the D4 is the night shooting KING.

Enlighten me please guys and gals.

Cheers...

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coudet Veteran Member • Posts: 3,885
Re: Lenses for a D4

net_walker wrote:

Ok, when I get back home to Oz at the end of August I will be buying myself a D4. Do I deserve it?

Yes...

That's the attitude!

Suggestions on lens recommendations appreciated. I read that the 70-200 F4 is not a bad lens  but not sure if it will hold up to night shooting handheld

Why not try that 80-200/2.8 first, since you already own it?

net_walker OP Contributing Member • Posts: 812
Re: Lenses for a D4

coudet wrote:

net_walker wrote:

Ok, when I get back home to Oz at the end of August I will be buying myself a D4. Do I deserve it?

Yes...

That's the attitude!

Suggestions on lens recommendations appreciated. I read that the 70-200 F4 is not a bad lens  but not sure if it will hold up to night shooting handheld

Why not try that 80-200/2.8 first, since you already own it?

True I do own it Was looking at options is all.

Also noting that it does not support Nikon TE Converters.

Cheers...

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87350iroc Junior Member • Posts: 43
Re: Lenses for a D4

net_walker wrote:

coudet wrote:

net_walker wrote:

Ok, when I get back home to Oz at the end of August I will be buying myself a D4. Do I deserve it?

Yes...

That's the attitude!

Suggestions on lens recommendations appreciated. I read that the 70-200 F4 is not a bad lens  but not sure if it will hold up to night shooting handheld

Why not try that 80-200/2.8 first, since you already own it?

True I do own it Was looking at options is all.

Also noting that it does not support Nikon TE Converters.

Cheers...

Yeah, whats wrong with the 80-200, that is a great lens.  I certainly don't see the f4 as a upgrade for your type of shooting.

You can use it with Kenko tele-converters with pretty good success.  Although I would not put a tele-converter on any lens for concert shooting.

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Minnesota_Steve Contributing Member • Posts: 512
Re: Lenses for a D4

At what aperture is the 80-200 sharp?  My 70-200 VR I requires f/3.2, but much better than f/4 lens.  The 70-200 f/4 is supposed to be sharp wide open.  It also has a nice weight advantage.  But if your 80-200 is great at 2.8 or 3.2 I would stick with that.  On my D4, the 70-200 VRI lives at F/3.2 and I often shoot at ISO 8000+ for night events!  The extra 2/3 stop really helps.

My event kit is the D4 + 14-24, 50 f1.4 and 70-200 f2.8, 1.4 TC and a D7100 for backup.

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Gittix Forum Member • Posts: 60
Re: Lenses for a D4

Did you consider a used D3 or D3s? You could pick up one of these and use the extra $2500.00 or so to put towards another lens or upgrade the 80-200 to 70-200 VRII. You're not gaining a lot of low light capability with the D4 over the D3s and you could spend the money on some top notch fast glass instead. Just a thought.

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net_walker OP Contributing Member • Posts: 812
Re: Lenses for a D4

87350iroc wrote:

net_walker wrote:

coudet wrote:

net_walker wrote:

Ok, when I get back home to Oz at the end of August I will be buying myself a D4. Do I deserve it?

Yes...

That's the attitude!

Suggestions on lens recommendations appreciated. I read that the 70-200 F4 is not a bad lens  but not sure if it will hold up to night shooting handheld

Why not try that 80-200/2.8 first, since you already own it?

True I do own it Was looking at options is all.

Also noting that it does not support Nikon TE Converters.

Cheers...

Yeah, whats wrong with the 80-200, that is a great lens.  I certainly don't see the f4 as a upgrade for your type of shooting.

You can use it with Kenko tele-converters with pretty good success.  Although I would not put a tele-converter on any lens for concert shooting.

Thanks, did not know Kenko worked.

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net_walker OP Contributing Member • Posts: 812
Re: Lenses for a D4

Gittix wrote:

Did you consider a used D3 or D3s? You could pick up one of these and use the extra $2500.00 or so to put towards another lens or upgrade the 80-200 to 70-200 VRII. You're not gaining a lot of low light capability with the D4 over the D3s and you could spend the money on some top notch fast glass instead. Just a thought.

Cheers...not really thought about that path tbh.

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vandv Regular Member • Posts: 157
Re: Lenses for a D4

Your 80-200/2.8 is a decent lens.  I would drop the 50/1.4 and get a 35 or 85/1.4.  The 28-300 probably should go too.

I am saying this in the context of you getting a D4.   The D4 you are paying a big price (not just money, but megapixels and size) for low-light and high speed shooting.  The 70-200/F4 would not be the right lens for it either.

I have a D4.  Put the 85/1.4g on it and it is amazing.  I also have a D800e which is the perfect size for the 85/1.4g or a 28-300

Anthony Nadia New Member • Posts: 9
Re: Lenses for a D4

You will LOVE the D4!!!  Brilliant choice!

You can't put just any lens on that awesome body.  If you're shooting a concert, wouldn't you want the faster focusing 70-200 2.8?  Or how about the latest 80-400?  The AF on this new version is speedy!

JeffNYC Junior Member • Posts: 26
Re: Lenses for a D4

net_walker wrote:

Ok, when I get back home to Oz at the end of August I will be buying myself a D4. Do I deserve it?

Yes...

Am I good enough for it?

No...

Will I get it none the less?

Yes...

So, I currently own the 80-200 2.8 and 50 1.4g as well as the 28-300 for my travel lens to Europe in a few months. Sigma 10-20 as I use a D7000 atm.

I have really like shooting the few Forces Entertainment concerts so the D4 low noise use is what I want. But generally will be doing a lot of different things. Dropped my 105 macro just before x-mas and killed it off

Suggestions on lens recommendations appreciated. I read that the 70-200 F4 is not a bad lens  but not sure if it will hold up to night shooting handheld, but then again the D4 is the night shooting KING.

Enlighten me please guys and gals.

Cheers...

I've been using the new 70-200mm f/4G VRIII on a D700.

I don't think you'll have any problems with concerts or low light shooting (evening)

The new VR plus the D4 ISO levels will be enough.

Jeff

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RudivanS Veteran Member • Posts: 4,437
Re: Lenses for a D4

net_walker wrote:

Ok, when I get back home to Oz at the end of August I will be buying myself a D4. Do I deserve it?

Yes...

Am I good enough for it?

No...

Will I get it none the less?

Yes...

So, I currently own the 80-200 2.8 and 50 1.4g as well as the 28-300 for my travel lens to Europe in a few months. Sigma 10-20 as I use a D7000 atm.

I have really like shooting the few Forces Entertainment concerts so the D4 low noise use is what I want. But generally will be doing a lot of different things. Dropped my 105 macro just before x-mas and killed it off

Suggestions on lens recommendations appreciated. I read that the 70-200 F4 is not a bad lens  but not sure if it will hold up to night shooting handheld, but then again the D4 is the night shooting KING.

Enlighten me please guys and gals.

Cheers...

Ok, I found that the 70-200 f2.8 version 2 a significant step up in sharpness, speed and rendition etc. from the 80-200 - It's a trues pro lens, but at a cost though. Can ya handle it 

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richard cohen Senior Member • Posts: 1,047
this is my lens lineup...

Acquired over several years...along with my d4...

14-24 2.8

24-70 2.8

70-200vr1

28-300vr

500mm vr

The 24-70 sits on the camera most of the time. The 14-24 is an amazing lens for outdoors, landscapes, etc. I don't use the 70-200 much but it is a great lens except in the corners. The 28-300vr is a compromise lens that I only use on occasions where I can have only one lens and need the reach (ie, hikes, mtn bike rides, etc). The 500 is a killer wildlife lens that can be hand held. I had a 105 2.8 micro but found that I don't like taking macro shots so I sold it.

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net_walker OP Contributing Member • Posts: 812
Re: Lenses for a D4

Tanks again guys. I have bought the D800 which I find a big step up but off to EU in a little over a month (still not home in Oz yet).

Have not ruled out the D4 yet tho

Looking at the Tamron 24-70, 70-200 and the Nikon 14-24. Possibly the Sigma 150 macro, Nikon 85 1.8 and Sigma 35 as well.

This will be what should be the only lenses that I would possibly need as birding is not something I would be interested in.

Oh and maybe some lensbabies for some fun times.

Cheers...

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larrywilson
larrywilson Veteran Member • Posts: 4,852
Re: Lenses for a D4

If you have the money, buy the d4, best camera for high iso shooting and the post processing is much easier and quicker than the d800.

I have the d4 and also the 70-200 f4.0 lens, excellant combination for any type of shooting between 70 and 200mm.  This lens is an excellant lens which takes all the Nikon converters with the d4.

Larry

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Steven Sax Regular Member • Posts: 450
Re: Lenses for a D4

I have gone back and forth in shooting band photography at night with my D4. Using the golden trio 14-24, 24-70, 70-200, I found I didn't use the 24-70 much, and even with iso at 6400-12800 I often wanted faster than 2.8 to keep the shutter speed over 1/125th. Soooo, I used 35 1.4 sigma and nikon 85 1.4 and 135dc 2.0 and wished I had the zooms! Still can't decide. Either way I've been happy. Once rented a 200mm 2.0 and got awesome images and sore forearms...If I had to make a final choice, it would be: 14-24 and 85 1.4.

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