* Wed C&C (No Theme) Thread, Ed. 259, 13 04 10 *

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19andrew47
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* Wed C&C (No Theme) Thread, Ed. 259, 13 04 10 *

Welcome to the Wednesday Comments and Critique (No Theme) thread!

We’re continuing the great tradition of this C&C thread because we’re convinced that looking at and talking about images is vital for better photography, and also useful for understanding and appreciating our gear.

The idea is simple: you post an image and get critique on it, and in return give other people your opinion of their images. Or vice versa: you give others your honest feedback, and in return deserve the right to post your own picture for C&C.

Generally, you should post only one single image for C&C. As an exception, you can post two pictures resulting from one shutter release but with different treatment (for example a color and a black & white version, or a different crop) for us to choose from and comment on.

TWO RULES:

1.If you post an image, you critique at least one other image.

2.Keep your comments honest but polite; if you don’t care for an image, try to explain why. This is neither a “Good shot!” nor an image-bashing thread.

Any style, any camera. It is a peer-to-peer photography workshop!

Feedback is guaranteed (for up to 48 hours after the thread has started)! Though keep in mind that the thread tends to be busiest during the first 24 hours or so, so later image posts may get little feedback.

HOW TO PLAY:

1.Turn on "Threaded view" and reply to this post with a web-sized image. Change the title so we can sort different images out easily!

2.Get back to this thread in a minute, an hour or a day or so, and…

3.…still in threaded view, look at one or more pictures of your choice, click reply and critique it.

4.Remember to add the EXIF if your image doesn't embed it as this may help

5.Image posters: please consider telling us what your own opinion on your image is. What prompted you to click that shutter button? What did you see? Why do you like the result? You don't have to explain, but it might be interesting.

6.You are very welcome to post agroup replyto the feedback you have gotten. This could include a new version of your image, taking on board the comments received. Please try not to reply individually to every comment so as not to fill up the thread on your own.

IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME, WELCOME! AND BE SURE TO READ THIS:

•The critique you give (point 3 from the above list) is vital. What was your first impression? What catches your eye about an image? Why? What do you like, and what distracts you? What would you change?

•Fiddle with the image in your head - composition, perspective, color balance, exposure. If the poster of the image does not object, you may even consider downloading his image and fiddling with it for real, to illustrate your point.

•More general feedback is also welcome. Do you know something about taking the same sort of image that would make matters easier - share your own as an example in your reply. Encourage - it is a scary business putting your work up for other people to judge!

•Finally what is the verdict? Waste-bin? Snapshot? Could be better? Family Album? Frame on wall? Poster-size frame on wall? Billboard? Reuters? World Press Photo? National Geographic? Museum? (pick your own superlative here)

One of the first replies is “The Related Post”. This is the place to post your general, not image-specific musings about this great enterprise called the C&C Thread.

Another of the first replies includes a link to all previous threads. This is called "Our Archives Vault".

Andrew (19andrew47)

19andrew47
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* The Related Post *

This is a placeholder for anything related to the C&C threads. And we do mean anything: feel free to start a discussion about the threads, or how you felt when your image was trashed by some mean know-it-all (probably not in this thread, though), or how it feels trying to say something polite about a cr @ ppy image posted for review (tough one).

This is also the place to make arrangements and share ideas for keeping this thread alive and kicking. Or for starting a new "Photo Essay" or "Series" thread, as has been suggested in the past (plenty of “Weekly” this-and-that threads around, so why not?).

The C&C participants will be more than happy to consider all input.  Eager, even.

Andrew

19andrew47
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* Our Archives Vault *

Here is the list of all recent editions of this wonderful experiment: our weekly exercise in ruthless peer-to-peer coaching for better photography; a refuge from gear discussions.

Recent editions:

Week 258 April 3, 2013 - by 19andrew47  http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51201856

Week 257 Mar 27, 2013 - by 19andrew47  http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51165522

Week 256 Mar 20, 2013 - by 19andrew47)   http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/51120138

Week 255 (Mar 13, 2013 - by 19andrew47)  http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/51027207

Week 254 (Mar 06, 2013 - by Zindanfel)    http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50988892

Week 253 (Feb 27, 2013 - by 19andrew47)  http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50937262

Week 252 (Feb 20, 2013 - by 19andrew47)  http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50891576

Week 251 (Feb 13, 2013 - by Lou Holland) http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50851097

Week 250 (Feb 6, 2013) - by Lou Holland) http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50807522

Week 249 (Jan 30, 2013 - by Lou Holland) http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50765099

Week 248 (Jan 23, 2013 - by Lou Holland) http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50720984

Week 247 (Jan 16, 2013 - by Lou Holland) http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50677069

All threads of 2012:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50996742

All threads of 2011:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=40228457

All threads of 2010:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=37375543

All threads of 2009:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=34168706

All threads of 2008:

(Jonas started this thread on April 2, 2008) http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=30596254

19andrew47
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Mentally Unavailable for the foreseeable future.

If I take enough narcotics to dull the pain to a manageable level, the brain is foggy and incapable of coherent though (well more so than normal anyway ) so I will not likely be very active here for a while.  Moving around without a cane while in the house, up and down stairs, but very little bend yet.  That part is worse than the other leg was but feel generally better than last time, so a saw off.

Andrew

19andrew47
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Cleopatra

Taken at a halloween dance with my first digital camera, a 4 mega pixel Minolta which died an early death.

Andrew

dave gaines
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The Chisled Trail

Not the Chisolm Trail but a highly carved, rocky route. This is Sheep Canyon in Anza Borrego Desert State Park. We hiked about as far as you can see and around the corner in this rugged, steep canyon. The streambed is full of syacamore and cottonwood trees while the surrounding hills are classic So Cal Sonora Desert. E-5 and 11-22 mm f/2.8-3.5 lens.

Trail into Sheep Canyon

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dave gaines
dave gaines Veteran Member • Posts: 9,183
Re: Mentally Unavailable for the foreseeable future.

19andrew47 wrote:

If I take enough narcotics to dull the pain to a manageable level, the brain is foggy and incapable of coherent though (well more so than normal anyway ) so I will not likely be very active here for a while.  Moving around without a cane while in the house, up and down stairs, but very little bend yet.  That part is worse than the other leg was but feel generally better than last time, so a saw off.

Andrew

Sorry to hear about your knee surgery. This is the first I'd heard of it. Having been pretty busy with work I have not checked in much lately.

I hope you're getting the required/recommended physical therapy for your recovery. That's a hard slow painful process I know but it's the best way to get back the use of your knees.

I wish you well in your recovery. I always enjoy your comments and hosting of this photo thread.

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stephent Veteran Member • Posts: 3,893
Re: Cleopatra

Hi mate, hope you get better soon, glad that you posted this week.

For me the image is all about the eyes, they just sparkle.

Regards.

Stephen.

stephent Veteran Member • Posts: 3,893
Re: The Chisled Trail

Hi mate, a great environmental portrait. Looks like a special place.

Regards.

Stephen.

stephent Veteran Member • Posts: 3,893
The Surfer...

Hi everyone, this from a classic autumn day.

Regards.

Stephen.

redsox Veteran Member • Posts: 3,080
trying the chapel again

for some reason the link last week to this photo didn't work. I'll try again

E3/14-54verI@44mm; f/3.5; 1/640; iso100

[IMG]http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/ashevillephoto/Charleston%20South%20Carolina/20130330-_3303572_1_zpscd969f3a.jpg[/IMG]

a small chapel where slaves worshipped on the grounds of a pre civil war rice plantation near Charleston SC in the US

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OK, last try to insert "chapel"

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Zindanfel
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Re: The Surfer...

stephent wrote:

Hi everyone, this from a classic autumn day.

Regards.

Stephen.

Perfectly coherent composition -- all elements work in harmony.

The line of boiling surf points to the headland, where a fog slope breaking on land mimics the surf. Sky and sea offer variations of blue and form to open consideration of Nature's palette and personality.

What a different picture this would be if at this moment the surfer were a bent, determined athlete rather than a rhythmic, graceful dancer!

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dave gaines
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Re: The Surf's up

What a great beach scene. The fog is rolling out for the morning or in for the afternoon. The cliff head creates a nice form compliment to the wave. Wish I were on the beach right now.

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Zindanfel
Zindanfel Veteran Member • Posts: 9,203
On photo posting...

Not sure what's going on here.  Attempts this hour to post photos from my dpr gallery and my computer have both failed.  And, my post in this thread last week from my zenfolio account yielded only a path to the photo through a (non-intuitive) click on "original size" in the red-X square where the photo should have been seen.

My local computer guru is away on vacation, and I've sent feedback to dpr on this and a seemingly related, wider problem with dpr's mainpage display.  So for now I'm a text participant only.  

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dave gaines
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Re: The "chapel"

What a great view out the window. If you didn't look carefully you might miss the simplicity of the interior wall panelling. It's a great relic.

I remember seeing a place that served the same purpose in the Dutch Colonial Island of Curacao, in the Netherland Antilles of Aruba, Bonaire and Curacao. Our black guide/driver gave us the history with simple honesty and grace before driving on to see other beaches and bays. The history of slave trading goes way back and stretches all around the Atlantic.

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dave gaines
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Re: On photo posting... success

Hi Don,

I just posted photos from my Smugmug gallery to my thread on Anza Borrego Desert. I added photos in each of 3 replies. Those posted okay. Let's see if they're still there.

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Waynecam Forum Pro • Posts: 13,575
Photographing a "slug".

Taken yesterday,  this engine appears to be a railroad "yard" engine or "slug" in railroad speak. Then again, maybe it isn't. Maybe one of you railroad experts could confirm my assessment. This is an HDR image. Clicking on this image to see it in a larger size makes better viewing.

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dave gaines
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A snail in a "slug's" clothing

Looks like a snail to me, creeping very slowly if at all. Escargot anyone?

Nice colors and detail in the locomotive. I like it. But I wouldn't know a slug from a high speed rail engine, except for the areodynamic shape.

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RoelHendrickx
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Let me concur with everything Dave wrote.

dave gaines wrote:

19andrew47 wrote:

If I take enough narcotics to dull the pain to a manageable level, the brain is foggy and incapable of coherent though (well more so than normal anyway ) so I will not likely be very active here for a while.  Moving around without a cane while in the house, up and down stairs, but very little bend yet.  That part is worse than the other leg was but feel generally better than last time, so a saw off.

Andrew

Sorry to hear about your knee surgery. This is the first I'd heard of it. Having been pretty busy with work I have not checked in much lately.

... except I knew about it before.  Get well back soon, Andrew!

I hope you're getting the required/recommended physical therapy for your recovery. That's a hard slow painful process I know but it's the best way to get back the use of your knees.

I wish you well in your recovery. I always enjoy your comments and hosting of this photo thread.

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