Best lens option in the 70-500 range

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ERROL FLYNN
ERROL FLYNN Forum Member • Posts: 65
Best lens option in the 70-500 range

Hi y'all just pondering this

I have been saving for a new lens for a while, in 70-500 range, in the meanwhile the new Nikon 80-400 and New Sigma 120-300 F2.8 have been announced / released. Price aside what would be the / your preferred option of those listed below?

The lens would be used on a D800E,  for general use plus wildlife, landscape, possibly astro.

(discounting the Sigma options of 150-500 and 50-500 due to f6.3 max aperture at telephoto)

Nikon 70-200 f2.8 vr II + teleconvertors

Sigma 120-300 f2.8 + teleconvertors

New Nikon 80-400 f5.6

Thanks,

Pete

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PHXAZCRAIG
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Re: Best lens option in the 70-500 range

I have no idea on the Sigma as I've not used it or seen much from them.

The new 80-400 is clearly better than the 70-200 with 2.0TC.   Then again, the 70-200 is pretty nice by itself, and if 400mm performance isn't all that important while 70-200 is, I can see the argument for the 70-200 with TC.

Myself, I've got the 300F4 with 1.4TC, the old 80-400, the new 80-400, an old 80-200F2.8 and the new 70-200vr II.   So have a lot of choices.

Shooting wildlife, the new 80-400, hands-down.   The 300F4 with TC is close in terms of sharpness, but I think the new zoom is a bit better, and contrast is better.  Plus it's a zoom with VR, so far more flexible.

I still like the bare 300mm, but I mostly use it now on a Nikon V1 as a wildlife camera.  Cropped 810mm F4 with 10mp - you can do a lot with that.

The 70-200 gets used for events/people.  I don't bother with the 80-400 for that, partly because I like to shoot at F2.8-4.0.

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mironv Veteran Member • Posts: 9,778
Re: Best lens option in the 70-500 range

I will wait my self for a full test at Lenstip.pl for new Nikon 80-400 to see what is a acctual resolving resolution of a lens and since I have AF400mm f5.6 I'm in no rush. Only reason I'm intrested in Nikon is if and when it will resolve 42 or more wide open is to invest in front mounted 1.6XTC Made by Century ( it cost form $600 used to $1100 new) it is fine optical TC with 77mm tread and front 80mm so with Bogen special lens suport one can convert new Nikon in 600mm f5.6 VR at about 5LB total and at about $3000 ( I'm counting price drop of a Nikon to $2200 at some point) and that is unbilivable deal. AFS600mmf5.6 VR that can be work on hand held ( or on tripod if needed but half a LB of 600mm f4 ) and 1/3 of $$$$ . Why I post about my plans well maybe with this you can make your own conclusions which lens to get.

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PSCL1 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,770
Re: Best lens option in the 70-500 range

With all due respect to the venerable mironv, whose knowledge and experience (as well as his nearly 10,000 posts) far exceed mine, why would you consider spending thousands on an offbrand lens with shorter range at both ends (the Sigma 120-300) from a company notirious for spotty quality control rather than buying the new Nikon 80-400?

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mironv Veteran Member • Posts: 9,778
Re: Best lens option in the 70-500 range

PSCL1 wrote:

With all due respect to the venerable mironv, whose knowledge and experience (as well as his nearly 10,000 posts) far exceed mine, why would you consider spending thousands on an offbrand lens with shorter range at both ends (the Sigma 120-300) from a company notirious for spotty quality control rather than buying the new Nikon 80-400?

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When did I say I have 120-300??? I have AF400mmf5.6 and used it for a long time and it dose noth bother me that is say Sigma on it since is even beter than Canon USM400mm f5.6 L lens and dose macro at 1:3 from 62". I have many lenses and only 2 Nikons AFS70-200VRI and AFD105f2 DC rest atre Tokinas and Sigmas. I posted before why and when and if I get a new Nikon AFS80-400 in earlier post read that again and see if I say anything about 120-300.
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ERROL FLYNN
OP ERROL FLYNN Forum Member • Posts: 65
Re: Best lens option in the 70-500 range

Thanks for your input, maybe ultimately I need both the 70-200 and a separate longer lens for the wildlife side of things,

Pete

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ERROL FLYNN
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Re: Best lens option in the 70-500 range

Thanks for your info, I am also awaiting test reports on both the sigma and the Nikon 80-400, which hopefully will help in my decision,

Pete

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joejack951 Senior Member • Posts: 2,682
Re: Best lens option in the 70-500 range

PSCL1 wrote:

With all due respect to the venerable mironv, whose knowledge and experience (as well as his nearly 10,000 posts) far exceed mine, why would you consider spending thousands on an offbrand lens with shorter range at both ends (the Sigma 120-300) from a company notirious for spotty quality control rather than buying the new Nikon 80-400?

The Sigma with a 1.4X TC gives 420mm f/4 at the long (vs. 400mm f/5.6) or with a 2X TC 600mm f/5.6. And it can function as a 300mm f/2.8 when that's good enough. Where the Nikon may win is in focus speed and accuracy, something I found lacking in the first iteration of the 120-300 OS. If the new one improves on both, it's lens I'd far rather own than the new Nikon 80-400 even for a couple hundred more dollars.

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ERROL FLYNN
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Re: Best lens option in the 70-500 range

Thanks for your reply,  yes I see you point re the sigma, this is one of the first of a new 'better' updated line which is a new design and  supposedly has better QC than previous, and the fact it is f2.8 through the range allowes the use of convertors (though I wish it would take the higher quality Nikon ones).

Pete

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ERROL FLYNN
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Re: Best lens option in the 70-500 range

Thanks for replying, I was thinking upon similar lines, a fast 120-300 with the ability to reach 600mm with a converter, would be great if the Nikon ones were compatible.

Pete

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joejack951 Senior Member • Posts: 2,682
Re: Best lens option in the 70-500 range

ERROL FLYNN wrote:

would be great if the Nikon ones were compatible.

They aren't now. I doubt they will be on anything new.

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mironv Veteran Member • Posts: 9,778
Re: Best lens option in the 70-500 range

ERROL FLYNN wrote:

Thanks for replying, I was thinking upon similar lines, a fast 120-300 with the ability to reach 600mm with a converter, would be great if the Nikon ones were compatible.

Pete

Sigma 120-300 is fine zoom on its own but it dose not work well with any Tc as there is not optimal resolution for added TC specialy at wide open.

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Robert A F
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Re: Best lens option in the 70-500 range

Nikon 80-400

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