Camera choice for Europe trip

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John.Laninga
John.Laninga Senior Member • Posts: 2,289
Camera choice for Europe trip

In a week or so, we will be on a 15 day cruise ending in Rome.  We'll spend 5 days there, then on to London, for 6 days.  We will walk most everywhere, so lots of equipment schlepping. Then back home to Dallas.  My question is what camera(s) to take?

Initially, I was going to take only my LX-7 with LVF-2 finder.  Small, light, amazing lens, but small sensor.  I have a waist pack that holds the camera, accessories, and other goodies securely. But only a small sensor....

So, then I decided to also take my GH3 with 12-35 and 14-140 lenses.  Fairly compact, but still requires a decent day pack to carry along.  The GH3 and 12-35 are weather sealed, maybe a good thing for London. Quite a bit more weight and stuff to keep track of.

Then, I had an opportunity to purchase a used (in excellent condition) X100 with accessories.  I have played with the X100 before, so I am fairly familiar with it.  It would be an easy camera to carry (it comes with the OEM leather case).  But only a foot zoom....

So I'm coming here to solicit your suggestions:  which one (or two) (or three) cameras should I carry on this adventure?  BTW, I just turned 70, in good shape, but no spring chicken anymore, weight counts.

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jm10 Senior Member • Posts: 1,895
Re: Camera choice for Europe trip

John,

Since you are on a Fujifilm forum it should not shock you that I would suggest an X-E1. I like the versatility and the quality of the 18-55mm lens. Looking forward to my european trip that starts in Rome. This is what I am bringing along. Weight was a consideration for me (don't remember the numbers - you can look it up). I carry it in a waist bag lens down. Yes, heavier than the X100, but I do like the zoom feature...

Jacob

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John Crawley
John Crawley Senior Member • Posts: 1,136
Re: Camera choice for Europe trip

I had the same dilemma.  the guys at Arlington Camera steered me to two cameras. the Fujifilm XS-1 which has a long lens and a 2/3 sensor and the Lumix FZ 200 with a smaller sensor but a Leica 25-600 mm lens that stays a constant f2.8...I played with both and it was a toss up until I considered the dark corners and Cathedrals and what not I would encounter so I chose the faster lens.  Also...the Lumix is lighter...weight is very reasonable. BTW I have printed images up to 11 x 14 with ease from this fine little camera. that beings said the XS-1 is a fine tool as well. With either, you will not have to carry axillary lens. they both have 24x reach.  That should be plenty for peering behind the curtain in Rome.

Good luck and remember to post us some pictures when you return.

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jsjjnbrunk Forum Member • Posts: 58
Re: Camera choice for Europe trip

John.Laninga wrote:

In a week or so, we will be on a 15 day cruise ending in Rome.  We'll spend 5 days there, then on to London, for 6 days.  We will walk most everywhere, so lots of equipment schlepping. Then back home to Dallas.  My question is what camera(s) to take?

Initially, I was going to take only my LX-7 with LVF-2 finder.  Small, light, amazing lens, but small sensor.  I have a waist pack that holds the camera, accessories, and other goodies securely. But only a small sensor....

So, then I decided to also take my GH3 with 12-35 and 14-140 lenses.  Fairly compact, but still requires a decent day pack to carry along.  The GH3 and 12-35 are weather sealed, maybe a good thing for London. Quite a bit more weight and stuff to keep track of.

Then, I had an opportunity to purchase a used (in excellent condition) X100 with accessories.  I have played with the X100 before, so I am fairly familiar with it.  It would be an easy camera to carry (it comes with the OEM leather case).  But only a foot zoom....

So I'm coming here to solicit your suggestions:  which one (or two) (or three) cameras should I carry on this adventure?  BTW, I just turned 70, in good shape, but no spring chicken anymore, weight counts.

My last two trips to Europe, I carried a Panasonic LX-3 and was very pleased with the results.  I chose it over my wonderful 5D with no regrets.

I have a new X100s now and wouldn't hesitate to take it on my next trip.  But, in all honesty, having a zoom would be better than not.  However; I also believe that a short prime would be better than exchanging lenses.  (Europe is a generally "compact" place and I found that a short lens worked very well an awful lot of the time).

I read someplace that the best camera is the one you will use the most.  As much as I love my DSLRs and the SLRs before them, I really believe that a compact camera is the one you will use the most when traveling.  And a zoom or prime will get more use than 2 or more interchangeable lenses.

jeb

vkphoto
vkphoto Senior Member • Posts: 1,632
my opinion and few samples
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John.Laninga wrote:

In a week or so, we will be on a 15 day cruise ending in Rome.  We'll spend 5 days there, then on to London, for 6 days.  We will walk most everywhere, so lots of equipment schlepping. Then back home to Dallas.  My question is what camera(s) to take?

Initially, I was going to take only my LX-7 with LVF-2 finder.  Small, light, amazing lens, but small sensor.  I have a waist pack that holds the camera, accessories, and other goodies securely. But only a small sensor....

So, then I decided to also take my GH3 with 12-35 and 14-140 lenses.  Fairly compact, but still requires a decent day pack to carry along.  The GH3 and 12-35 are weather sealed, maybe a good thing for London. Quite a bit more weight and stuff to keep track of.

Then, I had an opportunity to purchase a used (in excellent condition) X100 with accessories.  I have played with the X100 before, so I am fairly familiar with it.  It would be an easy camera to carry (it comes with the OEM leather case).  But only a foot zoom....

So I'm coming here to solicit your suggestions:  which one (or two) (or three) cameras should I carry on this adventure?  BTW, I just turned 70, in good shape, but no spring chicken anymore, weight counts.

I wouldn't take new camera on important trip (no matter how good it is). I'd rather enjoy sightseeing than read manuals.

Pictures below were taken with LX-5

Florence

Colosseum at night

Regards,

vkphoto

John Crawley
John Crawley Senior Member • Posts: 1,136
Re: my opinion and few samples

Great shots!

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howardfuhrman Veteran Member • Posts: 3,819
Re: Camera choice for Europe trip

I have a LX7 and get great results especially if you are able to keep the ISO at a relatively lower levels.  I suggest that you take the LX7 and also take X100 for high ISO shots if you need to and other shots you want to take (I have seen photos on this forum taken with the X100 and it is capable of taking outstanding photos).  When you need a range larger than 35mm of the X100 use the LX7 has a fast lens with a very usable 24-90mm (35 equivalent) zoom range.

I went to New York at the end of February and took my LX7 and a Panasonic G5 with various lenses and used both. I got great results from both camera but I was surprised how good the LX7 performed.  Below are a few of many that I have on my website.  The weather was poor but the LX7 was great.

Have a great time on trip.

vkphoto
vkphoto Senior Member • Posts: 1,632
and couple B&W

John Crawley wrote:

Great shots!

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Thanks John.

LX-5

vkphoto

John.Laninga
John.Laninga OP Senior Member • Posts: 2,289
Thanks for the replies

Appreciate the feedback.  I (probably) will take the LX7 as an always-with-me camera, and also add X100 for when I expect to take pictures.

I used an X100 last year for a month, so I am familiar with it.  And I have a 2 week sea cruise to re-familiarize myself.  I do carry the manual on my tablet.

Personally, I love my GH3 with it's fast zoom lenses, and it is weather resistant.  Nevertheless, there is a weight penalty, and my significant other would like me to see some of the sights out of both eyes instead of one eye and viewfinder.  The X100 is just a faster camera to use with its great dial setup.

But I bet I won't make up my mind until I actually pack my bags in a few days.  And taking all three is out of the question

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LKJR Regular Member • Posts: 147
Re: Thanks for the replies

Your decision sounds good.

If you are into taking lots of pictures in churches etc., the LX7 is the way to go as you will be cramped with the X100. My LX3 got used the most in buildings, at night and for sweeping landscapes (over my DSLR) on my trips to Italy.

And of course on these trips a really good backpack (with chest and waist support) and/or waist pack should not be overlooked.

Enjoy your trip!

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Al Valentino Senior Member • Posts: 4,914
Re: Camera choice for Europe trip

jm10 wrote:

John,

Since you are on a Fujifilm forum it should not shock you that I would suggest an X-E1. I like the versatility and the quality of the 18-55mm lens. Looking forward to my european trip that starts in Rome. This is what I am bringing along. Weight was a consideration for me (don't remember the numbers - you can look it up). I carry it in a waist bag lens down. Yes, heavier than the X100, but I do like the zoom feature...

Jacob

The XE1 and zoom would be my pick as well. Relatively small, very versatile and great IQ.

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EWR72 Regular Member • Posts: 321
Re: Camera choice for Europe trip

Hi John, I went to Barcelona awhile back with my Panasonic LX3 and it was very handy to carry around and I was very happy with the results. I have a post on my Blog about it if you want to check it out.....

http://lightoflanzarote.wordpress.com/2013/01/13/barcelona-from-the-archives/

I also took it along to Germany and found I used it a lot as it is very compact and was always with me.

I am sure the LX-7 would be very handy to take along, maybe with the X100. I´d love to get one as a travel camera but have Sony Nex and Sigma DP cameras to tide me over:) It will be interesting to hear how you get on. Here is one of my favourite shots from Barcelona with the LX3.......

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umanemo Regular Member • Posts: 220
IQ vs Convenience?

I too have boycotted the airlines... congratulations! You will love your transatlantic!

In the meantime, after the binge feeding you will inevitably partake in during the 14 day crossing you will need to shed a few calories. You will also have 14 days on deck to learn a new camera. Therefore as I have also evolved through the LX-2, LX-5 and now onto the XE-1 I can recommend carrying the extra weight and learning the X system.

X100s, XE-1 or X-Pro, as most of the posters on this forum will repeat there are no better APSC files out there then the X-Trans. And by comparison, the 1 1/7" sensors get a little fuzzy at 100%

Besides all the math, it is a reality that APSC is about to be thought of as the old 1 1/7" when compared to the future "Full Frame" sensors that are rolling out as we speak.

Step in as close as you can afford to the best IQ possible or you will wish you did in just a few years from now!

skimble
skimble Veteran Member • Posts: 6,178
it will be a back and forth...

till you pack John

I just been t UK and Germany with the X100 only and I have the Lx3

Now if you think I advise you to take the X100 wrong

The Lx7 is the more versatile camera and I assume you would shoot mainly in good light not during night hours.

If you look for a camera you have fun shooting with and moving your legs and bending now and then the X100 is the more fun camera to use. More challenging but you would miss the wide for sure if you don't have the WC lens.

If you want to relax and take the nice snaps here and their take the Lx7 it will do for sure a great job and leave you with more time to enjoy your trip.

If I would take the X100 over the Lx3 next trip again? for sure because I like to work with the camera. The X100 is what makes me want to shoot not just take holidays snaps, don't get me wrong they belong into the holiday as well. With traveling in unknown places you have a better eye for the special things and the X100 helps you to bring that home

Cheers,

Siggi

so easy all in one Lx7

work horse with fun X100 and of cause superb IQ

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Joel Stern
Joel Stern Forum Pro • Posts: 10,915
Re: Camera choice for Europe trip

I would take the X100 while on the streets, and one camera with a zoom, probably the small LX for when on the boat or doing some rural site seeing (if you get a chance to do that). Keep it light, the extra load of all of that gear will wear on you and make you wish you did not have it all. With the 35mm FL you can walk back or forward and get wonderful shots that way. Enjoy your trip.

Joel Stern
Joel Stern Forum Pro • Posts: 10,915
Re: Camera choice for Europe trip

Al Valentino wrote:

jm10 wrote:

John,

Since you are on a Fujifilm forum it should not shock you that I would suggest an X-E1. I like the versatility and the quality of the 18-55mm lens. Looking forward to my european trip that starts in Rome. This is what I am bringing along. Weight was a consideration for me (don't remember the numbers - you can look it up). I carry it in a waist bag lens down. Yes, heavier than the X100, but I do like the zoom feature...

Jacob

The XE1 and zoom would be my pick as well. Relatively small, very versatile and great IQ.

I don't see where John wants to buy another camera but wants to make a decision regarding what he already has. Good luck

Andrei Nicoara Forum Member • Posts: 70
Re: IQ vs Convenience?

I would also vouch for the Fuji X-E1 with XF 18-55. I went to Rome two weeks ago with exactly this kit and I couldn't been happier. Yes it is heavier than my old Fuji X10, but the IQ more than makes up for the additional weight. You can see some pictures from Rome with the X-E1 - you can also use that page to get an idea about the place. andreinicoara.com/when-all-the-roads-lead-to-rome-have-your-camera-ready/

I love the X100 / X100s, but I am not sure I would feel comfortable with a fixed lens. I am forcing myself to use the Fuji X-E1 with the fixed 35mm, and if that experiment goes well maybe I will change my opinion.

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OPWong
OPWong Junior Member • Posts: 47
Re: Camera choice for Europe trip

I done a few Europe cruise in the past few years, IMO that the x100 is not really wide enough for a lot of building landmark inside or out.  Foot zoom is OK if you want to get closer but for wider scene you may found your back against the wall.

Whatever you decide to take, have a good trip and a fab holiday.

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PiterM Junior Member • Posts: 29
Re: Thanks for the replies

Personally I'd take X100 and LX7 as a backup. I traveled similar way last year to Italy (X100 & Olympus XZ-1 as backup) and couldn't be more happy.

joe Campo d2x Forum Member • Posts: 55
Re: Camera choice for Europe trip

I vote for Fuji x20, I have 2, I love them so much, also have 100s, I'm a Canon and nikon shooter but

these new cameras are really very good and easy to carry ….

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