Canon 7d pictures flat?

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rekomaged1 Regular Member • Posts: 132
Canon 7d pictures flat?

What do you guys think?

I feel like it doesn't have the pop

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rekomaged1 OP Regular Member • Posts: 132
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By the way the first picture for some reason came out 90 degrees off.

BAK Forum Pro • Posts: 20,843
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The first shot is so badly exposed that it is hopeless.

The second shot "snaps up" nicely with thirty seconds of levels adjustment.

BAK

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BAK wrote:

The first shot is so badly exposed that it is hopeless.

If maintaining highlight detail in the flower itself is the point I don't think it is a horrible exposure, although I don't really get the settings used.  Drop the ISO and shutter speed?

The second shot "snaps up" nicely with thirty seconds of levels adjustment.

"Snap", "pop", or even "crackle" are a matter of internal settings OR good editing.  If these two were shot in the RAW the first one should be pretty easily adjusted within reason and the second one will pop like a firecracker if you want it to.

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JTuuti Forum Member • Posts: 62
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I think the white balance is way off...  That is usually the first thing to check when the photos seem flat.

Here's a two quick twek:

rekomaged1 OP Regular Member • Posts: 132
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I dont see how it is so under exposed? I was trying to get the shot with the pure sunlight hitting right on it. Maybe its my techniques that is wrong?

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Wow!

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epozar Regular Member • Posts: 252
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rekomaged1 wrote:

I dont see how it is so under exposed? I was trying to get the shot with the pure sunlight hitting right on it. Maybe its my techniques that is wrong?

Maybe you shot using Adobe RGB ........... ?

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Atoche Contributing Member • Posts: 669
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rekomaged1 wrote:

What do you guys think?

I feel like it doesn't have the pop

IMHO: "pop" requires a combination of sharp subject and background separation (well for me anyway).  The flower is not really sharp, and the lighting is a bit harsh:

Starting with your .jpg, import to LR4 - export again to jpg

Lens correction

luminance noise reduction

sharpness increase

sharpness radius increase

sharpness UN-mask increase

increase clarity

increase saturation

increase luminance

increase contrast

white balance adjustment

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Sovern Contributing Member • Posts: 907
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Also shooting at a higher iso than needed (you can get away with iso 100 in these shots) is going to kill off some of your dynamic range (each bit helps) which will also make your photos appear more flat.

I'd lower their exposure a small amount in LR, add some contrast and possibly raise the black levels a long with clarity levels a notch to make them pop.

rekomaged1 OP Regular Member • Posts: 132
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Thanks, and no my pictures are in sRGB.

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Atoche Contributing Member • Posts: 669
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Subject matter helps too - yellow "pops" from the green - naturally, then when u apply some of the techniques above...

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Matt Senior Member • Posts: 2,387
enough pop?

rekomaged1 wrote:

I dont see how it is so under exposed? I was trying to get the shot with the pure sunlight hitting right on it. Maybe its my techniques that is wrong?

it is a little under exposed.  If you shoot RAW you can salvage lots of those things.  Another question is why you use ISO250 and 1/1000?  You can go down on both ISO and shutter speed and have enough light to expose it more.

Other than that, images dont pop because of flat light during the shot and not enough saturation.  But not every image has to pop like a piece of neon plastic.

pic 1: Due to the subject/colors, there isnt much that could pop ... still if you increase sat and contrast it will pop a bit more

pic 2: there is enough color in there and I dont think it needs to "pop" more. still, if you want then increase cont and sat.

Other things to consider are: are you shooting JPG with a neutral color profile (or whatever its called), saturation and contrast turned down? Are you shooting Adobe RGB and displaying sRGB?

For the pic to be rotated, some software you are not using is not reading your location sensor data or the sensor isnt working

I dont see anything really wrong with those pics, except #1 a bit underexposed and you are using settings that are not ideal

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thank you for posting this, it has helped me - I hope it helps the OP as well...

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You could try printing them on a mug or a ball.  Or anything curved really.

Don Richardson Senior Member • Posts: 1,454
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I didn't read where anyone said "Out of Focus". That's the first thing I saw. Try MF and see if that helps. If it does adjust the lens to correct focus and see if that helps.

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PhilPreston3072 Senior Member • Posts: 2,310
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rekomaged1 wrote:

What do you guys think?

I feel like it doesn't have the pop

The first shot looks fine to me.  Perhaps you're not seeing the pop because you've only got the dark side of the flower in focus.  If you've shot raw, you can increase the brightness/exposure with editing software and see if that helps.

The second shot is suffering from too shallow DOF.  If you look closely you'll find hardly any of the flower buds are in focus.  Try closing the aperture to F8 or F16 and see if that helps.  Also you've got a very busy background behind your subject which distracts the eyes.  Try to find an angle where background isn't so busy and that way your subject will pop out a lot more.

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