My new baby (both of them :)

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tjstyphon1
tjstyphon1 Regular Member • Posts: 131
My new baby (both of them :)
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Here's a shot of my 5 month old son taken with my 7 month old A77 and Sony 35 1.8. He was just laying on his Boppy playing with the blanket and I grabbed the camera and started the photo shoot.  Straight OOC jpeg with no PP at all because, well, I have a 5 month old lol.

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Hirenp New Member • Posts: 23
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Nice shot - Poster Pic. I'm also enjoying taking pics of my 3 month old (Also my new A57).

While shooting with my 3 month old I realized the importance of RAW. Learned a little bit editing in Light room lately. Just to edit/improve keeper shots like the one you took.

IMHO invest in a good Flash if u haven't already. Totally worth it, I get lot better result with flash and lot more keeper shots.

Here is a shot of my 3 month old. Taken with A57 + SAL35mm + HVL-F43AM.

Very Happy with SLT A57+ SAL 35mm+ F43AM  result....

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joerawr Regular Member • Posts: 100
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tjstyphon1,

Let me tell, you, with the A77 a quick PP in Lightroom is your friend! I have 18 month old twin girls, and I took aver 10,000 pics of them with the A77 according to my LR catalog. For me with that exact same camera, lens, and environment (A77, DT35, inside), the A77 tends to under expose, and have a too warm tone (actually it's probably accurate for the lighting, unless you are using daylight CFLs throughout your house). So, it's really so easy to load them in LR, and then hit Auto WB and Auto Tone. I have been pleasantly surprised how much an improvement those two auto buttons make (most of the time). You can even do it to the whole group. Edit one file in your set to your liking, copy the settings then apply to the whole set.

Shoot raw. Raw + jpeg if it helps in your workflow.

Here's the pic you uploaded, with just three tweaks. I hit Auto WB, and Auto Tone. Auto Tone went a bit too bright in the face, so i pulled down the exposure. done. And this is on the jpeg, results could be better with the RAW

Great photo, great detail on the eyes. Love that smile. Keep up the good work.

BTW: I am probably being a total hypocrite here, because I just got called out for a SOOC picture myself: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/51146506

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joerawr Regular Member • Posts: 100
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Hirenp wrote:

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IMHO invest in a good Flash if u haven't already. Totally worth it, I get lot better result with flash and lot more keeper shots.

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Totally agree.  Inside the house, I put the F43 to the rear facing, firing backwards over my shoulder position, so that the light is bouncing off the backwall and ceiling.  The result is a soft,  very disperse, light without the tell-tale ceiling bounce shadow my Canon flash gave me.  It's all reflected light that doesn't look like you used a flash.  Inside the F43 can do this, but it is firing close to full power, so you occasionally have to wait for recharge.  Not a problem until the kid gets more mobile.  Metz, Nissin, and Sigma all make compatible flashes that are worth considering.  I became a ISO100 snob with my A77 + F43 and was grumpy if I couldn't get that ISO100 crispiness.

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Hirenp wrote:

IMHO invest in a good Flash if u haven't already. Totally worth it, I get lot better result with flash and lot more keeper shots.

I have the HVL-F36 flash, I don't know much about flash units so not sure on what it's limitations are but I know I need to use it more. This shot was spur of the moment, he was being cute so I grabbed the camera, flash was in the other room and I didn't want to miss the moment. I will try to set up some shots and practice with the flash.  BTW - great shot of yours

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joerawr wrote:

tjstyphon1,

Let me tell, you, with the A77 a quick PP in Lightroom is your friend! I have 18 month old twin girls, and I took aver 10,000 pics of them with the A77 according to my LR catalog. For me with that exact same camera, lens, and environment (A77, DT35, inside), the A77 tends to under expose, and have a too warm tone (actually it's probably accurate for the lighting, unless you are using daylight CFLs throughout your house). So, it's really so easy to load them in LR, and then hit Auto WB and Auto Tone. I have been pleasantly surprised how much an improvement those two auto buttons make (most of the time). You can even do it to the whole group. Edit one file in your set to your liking, copy the settings then apply to the whole set.

Does Photoshop deliver similar results with the auto buttons? I don't have LR, but I have CS5 on my work computer. I have a little background with PS, but it seems like I always spend too much time editing, making tweaks here and there. I should just break down and buy LR, anyone know of deals on it?

Thanks for the PP preview, the shot really stands out now! You have shamedencouraged me into getting back into the PP tweaking

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joerawr wrote:

Totally agree. Inside the house, I put the F43 to the rear facing, firing backwards over my shoulder position, so that the light is bouncing off the backwall and ceiling. The result is a soft, very disperse, light without the tell-tale ceiling bounce shadow my Canon flash gave me.

I will try this technique, thanks!

I became a ISO100 snob with my A77 + F43 and was grumpy if I couldn't get that ISO100 crispiness.

Is it worth upgrading my F36 to the F43? Seems like the F43 is pretty common on here.

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joerawr wrote:

For me with that exact same camera, lens, and environment (A77, DT35, inside), the A77 tends to under expose, and have a too warm tone (actually it's probably accurate for the lighting, unless you are using daylight CFLs throughout your house).

The Op's photo was underexposed one full stop: EV = -1.

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Not sure why you used a minus 1 EV. However, as others noted it is easy to save the shot. Cute kid!!

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busch wrote:

Not sure why you used a minus 1 EV. However, as others noted it is easy to save the shot. Cute kid!!

I'm not sure why either   I know I bought Gary Friendman's book and changed some settings according to his recommendations (not sure this was one of them, it's been a while).  If that wasn't it, I just did it on accident at some point and hadn't noticed. Guess I have something to check out when I get home today.  Thanks, that's why I like posting on here

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Peter McNeill Senior Member • Posts: 1,554
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If memory serves me, I think Gary's book mentions using -1 exposure with external flash. Although firmware 1.07 fixed that or so it's said.

Timothy Hans Junior Member • Posts: 41
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Beautiful photo and the your baby is even more beautiful - well done on both counts.

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joerawr Regular Member • Posts: 100
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Ed at Ridersite wrote:

joerawr wrote:

For me with that exact same camera, lens, and environment (A77, DT35, inside), the A77 tends to under expose, and have a too warm tone (actually it's probably accurate for the lighting, unless you are using daylight CFLs throughout your house).

The Op's photo was underexposed one full stop: EV = -1.

Totally missed that.

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Peter McNeill wrote:

If memory serves me, I think Gary's book mentions using -1 exposure with external flash. Although firmware 1.07 fixed that or so it's said.

Yes, exactly.  I totally missed that the EXIF info shows that the shot was -1 EV.  The OP probably meant to set the FLASH exposure compensation to -1.  On Gary's blog he believes the flash exposure compensation issues are fixed with Firmware 1.07.  But for firmwares before that he used -0.7 to -1.0 flash exposure compensation.

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RichV Veteran Member • Posts: 6,178
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You probably could have done this just fine w/o the flash; your A77 was set to -1 EV, I'd guess it was "left over" from a prior shot.

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Since I haven't upgraded to 1.07 yet, guess that should be job #1.  Then reset exp comp back to 0.  For the flash, I have the HVL-F36, but it seems like the 43 is much more common on here. Is it worth the cost to upgrade it? Thanks again for all the tips, always get great advice here!

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cponciano New Member • Posts: 5
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joerawr wrote:

tjstyphon1,

Let me tell, you, with the A77 a quick PP in Lightroom is your friend! I have 18 month old twin girls, and I took aver 10,000 pics of them with the A77 according to my LR catalog. For me with that exact same camera, lens, and environment (A77, DT35, inside), the A77 tends to under expose, and have a too warm tone (actually it's probably accurate for the lighting, unless you are using daylight CFLs throughout your house). So, it's really so easy to load them in LR, and then hit Auto WB and Auto Tone. I have been pleasantly surprised how much an improvement those two auto buttons make (most of the time). You can even do it to the whole group. Edit one file in your set to your liking, copy the settings then apply to the whole set.

Shoot raw. Raw + jpeg if it helps in your workflow.

Here's the pic you uploaded, with just three tweaks. I hit Auto WB, and Auto Tone. Auto Tone went a bit too bright in the face, so i pulled down the exposure. done. And this is on the jpeg, results could be better with the RAW

Great photo, great detail on the eyes. Love that smile. Keep up the good work.

BTW: I am probably being a total hypocrite here, because I just got called out for a SOOC picture myself: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/51146506

Wow talk about night and day, those eyes just really pop after it was retouched, i think you just convinced me on two things. 1. im gonna try to shoot in RAW more, and 2. fiddle with the lighting in pp.

I have a 8mo old daughter that i just bought a A57 for also and im in love with both of them

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