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Started Dec 1, 2011 | User reviews
Gaston Bonaudi New Member • Posts: 3
All ¨L¨ Lenses in One Package.
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I have bought my 28-300L some months ago and use it all around Galapagos Islands and Easter Island..
I think I'll will never find a better lens like this one.
It is totally awesome, perfect match for my 7D. The image quality is superb. The auto-focus is really-really-FAST and silent.
I was a little disappointed using it at high ISO... it doesn't look ¨too¨ sharp as I expected to be an L lens of this price tag, but besides that the picture quality is outstanding. For video it's a little difficult to handle and control the manual focus compared with other small lenses, but is not a big issue (while handheld).
The weight... well.. it's literally like a bazooka, but you will get used to it.
This lens worth every cent you pay. You have all the range covered with the outstanding ¨red ring¨ quality.
I will just add my super-wide angle 10-20 for some special shots.
¨...Be prepared to some: "whoa!" when you get the camera out of your bag.¨
Pros: Fast Auto-Focus, Superior Build Quality, Super-Sharp Images, it's an all-weather lens..
Cons: Semi-Sharp Images, Difficult To Manual Focus For Video Shooting.

Canon EF 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6L IS USM
Lens • Canon EF • 9322A002
Announced: Jan 29, 2004
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SeanPhoto New Member • Posts: 8
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You noted that the image is not too sharp in high iso.  How so?  Is it specific to high iso pictures, or it has an image sharpness problem in general?

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mailman88 Veteran Member • Posts: 6,291
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High ISO images have nothing to do with the lens! Its the camera sensor...

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Ralph Newman Forum Member • Posts: 87
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Gaston Bonaudi wrote:

I was a little disappointed using it at high ISO... it doesn't look ¨too¨ sharp as I expected to be an L lens of this price tag, but besides that the picture quality is outstanding. For video it's a little difficult to handle and control the manual focus compared with other small lenses, but is not a big issue (while handheld).
The weight... well.. it's literally like a bazooka, but you will get used to it.
This lens worth every cent you pay. You have all the range covered with the outstanding ¨red ring¨ quality.
I will just add my super-wide angle 10-20 for some special shots.
¨...Be prepared to some: "whoa!" when you get the camera out of your bag.¨
Pros: Fast Auto-Focus, Superior Build Quality, Super-Sharp Images, it's an all-weather lens..
Cons: Semi-Sharp Images, Difficult To Manual Focus For Video Shooting.

Maybe the problem with high iso shots looking soft is more to do with the 7D than the lens as the 7D has the unfortunate reputation of a higher noise level. I have two 7Ds and found this to be the case. I sold my 100-400mm lens in facour of the 28-300mm and am very happy I did so. The photos are so much clearer and sharper but at twice the price I would expect no less. After the first hour of carrying the lens the weight is no longer an issue, but if you are coming to it from small kit lenses you will  notice a significant difference for a hile. For me however coming frorm the 100-400mm it wasnt that noticeable. I used the 18-200IS lense as my travel lens but this one has replaced it prettty much, so good is the zoom range..

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rajdude Junior Member • Posts: 46
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at high ISOs, it is not the lens but the sensor in your 7D which makes the images look "not too sharp" which is actually the noise this old and small sensor produces.

This lens is best used on a full frame body

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BlueRay2 Forum Pro • Posts: 14,816
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Gaston Bonaudi wrote:

I have bought my 28-300L some months ago and use it all around Galapagos Islands and Easter Island..
I think I'll will never find a better lens like this one.
It is totally awesome, perfect match for my 7D. The image quality is superb. The auto-focus is really-really-FAST and silent.
I was a little disappointed using it at high ISO... it doesn't look ¨too¨ sharp as I expected to be an L lens of this price tag, but besides that the picture quality is outstanding. For video it's a little difficult to handle and control the manual focus compared with other small lenses, but is not a big issue (while handheld).
The weight... well.. it's literally like a bazooka, but you will get used to it.
This lens worth every cent you pay. You have all the range covered with the outstanding ¨red ring¨ quality.
I will just add my super-wide angle 10-20 for some special shots.
¨...Be prepared to some: "whoa!" when you get the camera out of your bag.¨
Pros: Fast Auto-Focus, Superior Build Quality, Super-Sharp Images, it's an all-weather lens..
Cons: Semi-Sharp Images, Difficult To Manual Focus For Video Shooting.

theoretically and from what i have head is that telephoto lenses that cover such wide and long FL, do have weaknesses at some point of FL it covers! that is the reason i have a 24-70f2.8II and 100-400 II that covers wide and long reach but they are very superb! YMMD

Dave
Dave Veteran Member • Posts: 6,231
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A lens that reaches over space and time.

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Mike Contributing Member • Posts: 783
rajdude is correct
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Also my first hand experience.

Three "L" lenses I own, including the 28-300L, were a major disappointment on three different small (APS-C) cameras, detail/sharpness wise.

Then...I bought a 6D. All three lenses turned a big corner and produce very nicely detailed photos. Especially the old...35-350L .

Mike

Jeff Peterman
Jeff Peterman Forum Pro • Posts: 13,585
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I was a little disappointed using it at high ISO... it doesn't look ¨too¨ sharp as I expected to be an L lens of this price tag,

I must admit that your statement makes me question the whole review. Image quality due to the lens should be consistent across all ISOs - there really is no connection between the quality of the image leaving the rear of the lens and the camera ISO.

Now, the all-in-one lens is a little slow at longer focal lengths, and the slower aperture means you would need higher ISO. This is physical limitation of a lens covering such a wide focal length.

This may be better than average for a zoom covering such a wide range. But there is no way that it is optically as good as the newer L lenses covering narrower ranges. The main thing that makes this an L lens is the robustness and weather proofing, but I bet my cheap 55-250 STM lens is just as good optically over the 55-250mm range. (The STM lens is as good as my 70-200 f2.8L IS where there ranges overlap - except for the faster aperture, robustness, and weather sealing.)

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IR1234 Senior Member • Posts: 1,891
Re: rajdude is correct

Mike wrote:

Also my first hand experience.

Three "L" lenses I own, including the 28-300L, were a major disappointment on three different small (APS-C) cameras, detail/sharpness wise.

Then...I bought a 6D. All three lenses turned a big corner and produce very nicely detailed photos. Especially the old...35-350L .

Mike

Never had an issue with my 35-350L. However, it has to be run at f7.1-8 to be sharp. Anything less and it's getting fuzzy. But at f8 it's nearly as sharp as my 70-200 f4L.

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Keith Z Leonard Veteran Member • Posts: 6,134
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IR1234 wrote:

Mike wrote:

Also my first hand experience.

Three "L" lenses I own, including the 28-300L, were a major disappointment on three different small (APS-C) cameras, detail/sharpness wise.

Then...I bought a 6D. All three lenses turned a big corner and produce very nicely detailed photos. Especially the old...35-350L .

Mike

Never had an issue with my 35-350L. However, it has to be run at f7.1-8 to be sharp. Anything less and it's getting fuzzy. But at f8 it's nearly as sharp as my 70-200 f4L.

That's why f8 is sometimes called "the great equalizer", most lenses are quite sharp at f8.

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(unknown member) Forum Member • Posts: 83
Re: High ISO limitation?

Jeff Peterman wrote:

I was a little disappointed using it at high ISO... it doesn't look ¨too¨ sharp as I expected to be an L lens of this price tag,

I bet my cheap 55-250 STM lens is just as good optically over the 55-250mm range. (The STM lens is as good as my 70-200 f2.8L IS where there ranges overlap - except for the faster aperture, robustness, and weather sealing.)

With all due respect, I honestly cannot compare a 55-250 with the 28-300.  The optical engineering required to get decent results for a range from moderate wide angle to super telephoto are much more demanding than those for a telephoto only unit.  I have no doubt that your 55-250 is doing a great job and is brilliant value for money, but you are comparing apples to oranges.

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Fog Maker Senior Member • Posts: 2,733
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  1. Jeff Peterman wrote:

I was a little disappointed using it at high ISO... it doesn't look ¨too¨ sharp as I expected to be an L lens of this price tag,

I must admit that your statement makes me question the whole review. Image quality due to the lens should be consistent across all ISOs - there really is no connection between the quality of the image leaving the rear of the lens and the camera ISO.

Now, the all-in-one lens is a little slow at longer focal lengths, and the slower aperture means you would need higher ISO. This is physical limitation of a lens covering such a wide focal length.

This may be better than average for a zoom covering such a wide range. But there is no way that it is optically as good as the newer L lenses covering narrower ranges. The main thing that makes this an L lens is the robustness and weather proofing, but I bet my cheap 55-250 STM lens is just as good optically over the 55-250mm range. (The STM lens is as good as my 70-200 f2.8L IS where there ranges overlap - except for the faster aperture, robustness, and weather sealing.)

Jeeeezzzzus.... If you have to use high ISO it’s usually because the light is not too great. And if the light is not good the images won’t come out as sharp

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Fog Maker wrote:

  1. Jeff Peterman wrote:

I was a little disappointed using it at high ISO... it doesn't look ¨too¨ sharp as I expected to be an L lens of this price tag,

I must admit that your statement makes me question the whole review. Image quality due to the lens should be consistent across all ISOs - there really is no connection between the quality of the image leaving the rear of the lens and the camera ISO.

Now, the all-in-one lens is a little slow at longer focal lengths, and the slower aperture means you would need higher ISO. This is physical limitation of a lens covering such a wide focal length.

This may be better than average for a zoom covering such a wide range. But there is no way that it is optically as good as the newer L lenses covering narrower ranges. The main thing that makes this an L lens is the robustness and weather proofing, but I bet my cheap 55-250 STM lens is just as good optically over the 55-250mm range. (The STM lens is as good as my 70-200 f2.8L IS where there ranges overlap - except for the faster aperture, robustness, and weather sealing.)

Jeeeezzzzus.... If you have to use high ISO it’s usually because the light is not too great. And if the light is not good the images won’t come out as sharp

1. I agree with the comment that involving ISO performance in a lens discussion is invalid. ISO performance is the dictate of a combination of the sensor and processor performance and can make images look less sharp as they pixelate. As the end result is the combination of all of these elements it is illogical to blame the lower ISO performance on the lens. If the lens was being used at high ISO was that because it was hand-held - it is after all a very heavy lens? If that is so then camera movement could also have been an contributing factor...

2. The list of differences between the 28-300 and other lenses: "there is no way that it is optically as good as the newer L lenses covering narrower ranges." That is exactly the point... the other and newer L series lenses cover much narrower ranges and that gives them a huge advantage! The 28-300 was meant for completely different purposes: it was meant for the person who wanted an excellent all-in-one lens, was never meant to compete with them. That said, the 28-300 consistently gets excellent ratings from many independent reviewers.

3. "I bet my cheap 55-250 STM lens is just as good optically over the 55-250mm range. (The STM lens is as good as my 70-200 f2.8L IS where there ranges overlap - except for the faster aperture, robustness, and weather sealing.)"  The 55-250 STM is a great lens, but all of the stuff after "except.." is WHY you pay the big bucks for L series glass!  You are answering your own criticism!

I would question from the comments of the contributor if they have never owned or used the 28-300 lens themselves. If that is so then their comments are simple speculation.

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"I bet my cheap 55-250 STM lens is just as good optically over the 55-250mm range. (The STM lens is as good as my 70-200 f2.8L IS where there ranges overlap - except for the faster aperture, robustness, and weather sealing.)"

If you are shooting under conditions where you don't need the faster aperture (maybe you need smaller aperture for depth of field), and the extra robustness and weather sealing are not important for the intended use, why not get and use the smaller, lighter, and MUCH cheaper STM lens over the L lens? I have both lenses, and often take the lighter lens because I don't need the advantages of the much heavier, bigger, lens. Now, if I was shooting an event under available light, where I would need to shoot at f2.8, it would be no contest, but that is not my typical shooting. For an average user, it can be better to buy the 55-250, plus get a couple of fast primes (I have the 85mm f1.8), or even something like the 100mm f2.8 macro, for a saving in cost compared to the big white lens, plus more flexibility.

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(unknown member) Forum Member • Posts: 83
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IN RESPONSE TO JEFF PETERMAN

I think, first of all this conversation is not relevant to the posts about ISO performance unless you wish to challenge or support that issue.

To address our various preferences. You absolutely are right FOR YOU to go with the multi-lens selection that you prefer. But that does not make the 28-300 in any way a bad or inferior lens - for its type it demonstrably has an excellent performance - for which I will reference not only reviews from DPR, its users, and those on Amazon, but those on Youtube and several other review websites. The point is that it is supposed to be for the person who doesn't want to carry or change between multiple lenses in the field, and as such a device it does an amazing job. Is it suitable for everyone... NO. Is it suitable for those who do not want to apply those criteria... No, there are cheaper and certainly lighter solutions.

In hope we would agree that ALL lenses are compromises between affordability, portability, sharpness, aperture size and focal length or range of focal lengths, and each person makes their choice balancing the pros and cons against their needs and liabilities. I have, and enjoy using on occasion, the 28-300 when I just want "one lens to rule them all" {:-)  I might add that I can see the quality in the lens when I look at the images it creates - often people say a particular lens has an appealing tone or ambiance and this one certainly does for me. I find it in many of my L series lenses (but not all).

I am impressed by the 55-250 STM lens, but considering my own enormous investment in glass I have the range covered and it's not a focal length range I would use very much for the type of shooting I do. I would not dream of judging it negatively it for that reason because I know that suitability is a very personal thing

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Note that I mentioned ISO purely in response to the OP's statement:

I was a little disappointed using it at high ISO... it doesn't look ¨too¨ sharp as I expected to be an L lens of this price tag

I agree - other than the fact that a "slower" lens may force you to use a higher ISO, ISO has nothing to do with the lens discussion.

Secondly, I was in no way saying anything against the 28-300 lens - even though it is not a lens I would chose.

I have three lenses that cover the mid length to telephoto range: 55-250 STM, 70-200 f2.8L IS, and the 70-300 Nano. I have the size and weight isn't an issue, I would always take the 70-200, but often those are issues and so I use the 55-250 (with a crop body) or the 70-300 (with a FF body) more frequently than the big beige lens. On the other hand, I also have an 18-135 STM lens and that, with an SL1 body, is my choice when I am traveling light.
Now, if I had unlimited funds for lenses then I might consider the 28-300 too. But it is not something I would normally select given other options.

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Mike - Senior Member • Posts: 1,068
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I made an interesting find.

I've had my 28-300L for a while now and have been "somewhat" satisfied with it.  I've had an old 35-350L lens on my 5D IV for the last year+ and have been pretty satisfied with the detail output.

Well, messing around a few days ago in the yard with the 35-350, I wasn't getting what I was normally happy with, detail wise.  I made a few adjustments and got a little better, but...

I went in and got the 28-300 off of my 6D and put it on the 5D IV and took a few shots.  What the hell, I'd never gotten that detailed (sharp for some) pictures from that lens.  Unfortunately...I was just messing with adjustments and don't recall what all (made a few) adjustments I made..!

So now, at least for the time being, my 28-300L is back on the 5D IV.

Mike

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I'm really glad for you Mike... What kinds of adjustments did you make?

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mhsvz Forum Member • Posts: 59
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I purchased my Canon EF 28-300mm zoom about 18 months ago specifically for use when traveling. Since then I’ve taken it on 3 trips and it has performed as expected. I mount it to my Canon 5DS-R and it produces excellent results. I combine it with my Canon EF 11-24mm zoom and have a wide range (11-300mm), covered with 2 lenses.

If I had to do it again, I would have purchased this lens sooner, like when I purchased my 5D3 in November 2012. Highly recommended for those who love to travel and are looking for a one lens solution.

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