What should be done with cheats ? Part 5 :-(

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What should be done with cheats ? Part 5 :-(
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Part 4 is full and closed... while the problem is still alive and well...

In the meantime, the sleazy effects of the Voter #5A945563 have been removed from the Challenge "Look What They Made" . There are also some changes visible in one member's data.

Thanks, DPR, for your intervention. It's a good start, and also a sign that this attractive part of the site can be made cheat-proof. Thousands of honest photographers frequenting these pages deserve it, and by removing the uncouth, impolite and the morally and ethically challenged, the ambient becomes healthier.

l_objectif
l_objectif Forum Pro • Posts: 19,893
OldArrow and DPR
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Thanks to Old Arrow and thanks to DPR!

There are people who are making a big effort to find cheaters and bring back trust to challenges. It is impossible to do anything positive without the help of DPR.... I always retained myself to criticize DPR that is our host. But sometimes, I am really very disappointed of them. After all, DPR would not be DPR without us, its members, and those who love this site!

So, please DPR, listen carefully to our problems and DO something when some ill-intentioned people are trying to destroy this site. They have already succeeded in replacing "Joy" by "suspicion" in challenges and only by banning them and listening to people like tasad, OldArrow, barb and others who are spending so much time to find them that you can save our favorite site!

We really need a serious monitoring of this forum!

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Wildbegonia
Wildbegonia Regular Member • Posts: 474
Re: OldArrow and DPR

Thanks to Old Arrow and thanks to DPR!

There are people who are making a big effort to find cheaters and bring back trust to challenges. It is impossible to do anything positive without the help of DPR.... I always retained myself to criticize DPR that is our host. But sometimes, I am really very disappointed of them. After all, DPR would not be DPR without us, its members, and those who love this site!

So, please DPR, listen carefully to our problems and DO something when some ill-intentioned people are trying to destroy this site. They have already succeeded in replacing "Joy" by "suspicion" in challenges and only by banning them and listening to people like tasad, OldArrow, barb and others who are spending so much time to find them that you can save our favorite site!

We really need a serious monitoring of this forum!

I agree with you on the issue of a forum monitor, I think I had mentioned it in the past too, but it seems that this forum on challenges has not the traffic volume that justifies it. A monitor is needed to keep comments within the forum subject (challenges) and clean of uncivilized and sheer rude comments. --

"There is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in" Leonard Cohen

tasad Contributing Member • Posts: 503
Re: What should be done with cheats ? Part 5 :-(

OldArrow wrote:

Part 4 is full and closed... while the problem is still alive and well...

(....)

How funny/sad is this ?  :

Question -  I_objectif : " How many IDs do you have !...? "

Answer   -  Jomagne  : " just one sir . why sir ? "

...

...and Jomange 's  " just one "  ID"s :

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/6596924266/photos/1631410/img_8028

...and :

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/6699190170/photos/1418688/img_8028

...

... and :

...

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/6596924266/photos/1623247/img_7991

...and :

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/6699190170/photos/1418630/img_7991

...

..and :

...

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/39965634

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3398959?page=2

Deleted pending purge OP Senior Member • Posts: 1,197
Re: What should be done with cheats ? Part 5 :-(

That's why the character was kicked out of my Challenge.

There should be some virtual rail, tar and feathers here somewhere handy. So many funny people wanting to be The First, and devil take self-respect.

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Fil

tasad Contributing Member • Posts: 503
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Thanks OldArrow , blosshapperter , vqeen , Kokeen4231  for DQ 's   entries of

Charliemagne Unggay  :  Jomagne aka engameilrahC  ...

http://www.pixoto.com/charlie777

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/6596924266

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/6699190170

Pat Curley Contributing Member • Posts: 851
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The challenge ‘Depressing’(Host: MrScorpio), which has now closed for entries, has a capture date rule – images must be captured on or after 26 March 2013.

The following nine entries are in breach of this rule, as the evidence of date manipulation in each case shows.  I have identified seven of the entrants.

The following two entries have had their EXIF data removed, for whatever reason.  I have identified these two entrants.

I will send a private message to the host.  If he does not act, could I ask, as a matter of fairness to those who entered valid images (and to those with the integrity not to enter invalid images) that members who are interested in maintaining the integrity of the challenge system please take the time to vote 0.5 for each of the ineligible entries?   Please also vote as you see fit for all the other entries, including those from which the EXIF data has been removed (for whatever reason!)

Those who are maintaining lists of cheats may wish to take note.

PC

Pat Curley Contributing Member • Posts: 851
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As mentioned in my post earlier today, I sent a private message to the host of the ‘Depressing’ challenge, MrScorpio.   I note that all except one of the images to which I drew attention have ‘disappeared’ from the challenge, presumably following disqualification.

That’s what I call a rapid response!

l_objectif
l_objectif Forum Pro • Posts: 19,893
Re: What should be done with cheats ? Part 5 :-(
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Pat Curley wrote:

As mentioned in my post earlier today, I sent a private message to the host of the ‘Depressing’ challenge, MrScorpio.   I note that all except one of the images to which I drew attention have ‘disappeared’ from the challenge, presumably following disqualification.

That’s what I call a rapid response!

Pat, this is a fact that we have very serious issues with challenges  and the only way to fix these problems is DPR getting seriously involved; but they don't! We havre problems with hosts who don't follow their own rules and more importantly, they don't  DQ the known cheaters. DPR also has the responsibility of warning and eventually firing bad hosts; and banning cheaters...... But nobody seems to care! ...

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Deleted pending purge OP Senior Member • Posts: 1,197
Re: What should be done with cheats ? Part 5 :-(
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Pat Curley wrote:

As mentioned in my post earlier today, I sent a private message to the host of the ‘Depressing’ challenge, MrScorpio.   I note that all except one of the images to which I drew attention have ‘disappeared’ from the challenge, presumably following disqualification.

That’s what I call a rapid response!

Good work, and the least the responsible hosts can do is to note the new cheaters (along with the previusly found ones), and BAN them from their challenges. So please help exterminate the dishonest people from the company of photographers.

I'm also urging all the hosts who find that this responsibility is too much work for their free time, or if they are saturated with the job... of if they;re simply not able to understand the need for a fair play... Please quit hosting for a while, and at least help restricting the playfield of dishonest "photographers". A job not worth doing right is not worth doing at all.

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tasad Contributing Member • Posts: 503
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Thanks Pat !  Thanks MrScorpio !

The challenge still have a few entries  with " modified " dates :

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Pat Curley Contributing Member • Posts: 851
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Hi Tasad,

Thanks!   I don't know how I missed those ones.   I have PM'd MrScorpio, just in case he is not following the thread.

Regards,

Pat

tasad Contributing Member • Posts: 503
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Pat Curley wrote:

Hi Tasad,

Thanks!   I don't know how I missed those ones.   I have PM'd MrScorpio, just in case he is not following the thread.

Regards,

Pat

Thanks Pat  !

I've complained - with the  link to the thread -  under the entries ...

tasad Contributing Member • Posts: 503
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So ,  Jomagne  has "  won  " again :

http://www.dpreview.com/challenges/Entry.aspx?ID=725565&View=Results&Rows=4

Before the challenge voting phase starts , I have complained (about the entry ) to the challenge's host .  I did not get any response ...

Skylane Contributing Member • Posts: 708
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Well it is a really nice shot.

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Charlie

tasad Contributing Member • Posts: 503
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n/t

tasad Contributing Member • Posts: 503
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tasad Contributing Member • Posts: 503
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...  continue ..

merops
merops Senior Member • Posts: 2,107
Re: What should be done with cheats ? Part 5 :-(
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tasad: I recognised a name in your post: it is someone who has just won a challenge with a cr@ppy image, and has a distribution of votes centred around 2.5 with a big peak at 5:

http://www.dpreview.com/challenges/Entry.aspx?ID=732569&View=Results&Rows=4

I have to say that I find someone who hosts a challenge and creates false IDs in order to enter it deeply sad and rather disturbing.

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