Just got my 24-70 f/2.8 II--first impressions.

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hotdog321
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Just got my 24-70 f/2.8 II--first impressions.

Ironically, I received my Canon 24-70 f/2.8 II from Amazon just on the day DPreview comes out with its review. I'm a pro and wanted to fill that yawning gap between my 16-35 f/2.8 and 70-200 f/2.8.  I just motored off a few test frames and will use it on a biz portrait tomorrow morning, but here are a few initial impressions:

1. Dang, that sucker is expensive! I coughed up about $2200 with tax.

2. The DPreview review is spot on. You see significant vignetting at f/2.8, but it settles down at f/4 and is pretty even by f/5.6. A bit of barrel distortion, no biggie.

3. Center sharpness and contrast appears very good even at f/2.8, but not quite at the level of a quality fixed focal length lens. Good color.

4. Somewhat heavy, but anyone who handles a 70-200 f/2.8 will hardly notice. One thing that I shouldn't have been surprised about (but was) is that the front section moves 1-1/2 inches forward when you zoom from 24mm to 70mm. (I was unconsciously expecting the usual internal mechanism like the 16-35 and 70-200.)

5. As everyone says, too bad it doesn't have IS.

Conclusion: this is a real workhorse of a lens that will probably remain affixed to one of my full frame bodies most of the time. Horrendously expensive, Canon is charging all that the market will bear. But since I will probably use it for the next 10-15 years in a professional capacity, I'm not complaining--too much.

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mu55 Senior Member • Posts: 1,397
Re: Just got my 24-70 f/2.8 II--first impressions.

I just picked one up today and am very happy with it (unfortunately it took me 7 copies to find one), I could always see the potential but couldn't find one that was a good everywhere.

The price is expensive but your right about it being a long term investment - I justified the price (and search for a good copy) based on the same idea.

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hotdog321
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Re: Just got my 24-70 f/2.8 II--first impressions.

Man, bummer about unsatisfactory copies. What issues did you experience?

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mizzar Forum Member • Posts: 87
Re: Just got my 24-70 f/2.8 II--first impressions.

Man, bummer about unsatisfactory copies. What issues did you experience?

This is what I'm so curious to see. I hear about these bad copies but no one ever seems to upload example photos comparing their bad copies to the final good one. Very strange! I'd love to see a comparison!

Sovern Contributing Member • Posts: 907
Re: Just got my 24-70 f/2.8 II--first impressions.

hotdog321 wrote:

Ironically, I received my Canon 24-70 f/2.8 II from Amazon just on the day DPreview comes out with its review. I'm a pro and wanted to fill that yawning gap between my 16-35 f/2.8 and 70-200 f/2.8. I just motored off a few test frames and will use it on a biz portrait tomorrow morning, but here are a few initial impressions:

1. Dang, that sucker is expensive! I coughed up about $2200 with tax.

2. The DPreview review is spot on. You see significant vignetting at f/2.8, but it settles down at f/4 and is pretty even by f/5.6. A bit of barrel distortion, no biggie.

3. Center sharpness and contrast appears very good even at f/2.8, but not quite at the level of a quality fixed focal length lens. Good color.

4. Somewhat heavy, but anyone who handles a 70-200 f/2.8 will hardly notice. One thing that I shouldn't have been surprised about (but was) is that the front section moves 1-1/2 inches forward when you zoom from 24mm to 70mm. (I was unconsciously expecting the usual internal mechanism like the 16-35 and 70-200.)

5. As everyone says, too bad it doesn't have IS.

Conclusion: this is a real workhorse of a lens that will probably remain affixed to one of my full frame bodies most of the time. Horrendously expensive, Canon is charging all that the market will bear. But since I will probably use it for the next 10-15 years in a professional capacity, I'm not complaining--too much.

Why not go with the Sigma or Tamron variant? Both have Stabilization and cost $1,000 less.

Marek07
Marek07 Regular Member • Posts: 369
Re: Just got my 24-70 f/2.8 II--first impressions.

I have had this lens for over 5 months now, and is in constant use, I shoot Fashion and Portraiture and have to say it has become the workhorse in my kit even leaving my 50mm 1.2 to gather dust it's that good, of course there is always going to be distortion and vignetting with any zoom but the new 24-70 is the sharpest, fastest zoom I have used and has great bokeh.

I use it with the new 5d mk3 which now has lens correction, and shoot studio, location, front lit, backlit...

Initially I went into a camera store with a few flash cards and tried a variety of 24-70 lenses including the nikon d800e with it's 24-70 and the new canon easily came top.

Like you said price is high and was even higher 5 months ago! but this lens has justified the expense and I have always thought not to sell yourself short on Glass!

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dave_bass5
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Re: Just got my 24-70 f/2.8 II--first impressions.

hotdog321 wrote:

One thing that I shouldn't have been surprised about (but was) is that the front section moves 1-1/2 inches forward when you zoom from 24mm to 70mm. (I was unconsciously expecting the usual internal mechanism like the 16-35 and 70-200.)

Wow, before spending that much money i would  have at least read one review of it so no surprises like that.

Its breen out for months, ans almost everyone who buys it posts a review. Cant see how you missed that

Mines a week old today, its been off the camera only once. when i had my Tamron 24-70 i hardly used it.

Says something about the Canon, even though they are supposed to be quite close IQ wise.

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hotdog321
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Re: Just got my 24-70 f/2.8 II--first impressions.

Oh, I read plenty of glowing reviews, but I had a "blind spot" about the front elements racking in and out. In hindsight I sorta remember, but the remnants of my brain blanked it out.

It wouldn't have made any difference in my purchase, but it is somewhat surprising (to me) since both the 16-35 and 70-200 use an internal racking design.

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hotdog321
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Re: Just got my 24-70 f/2.8 II--first impressions.

Tempting, but I'm a pro using all Canon glass. By this point in my career, I'm going to stick with the Canon stuff unless someone comes out with a truly superior lens that I need. Not a good reason, I know, and folks without deep pockets should definitely investigate the alternatives!

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hotdog321
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Re: Just got my 24-70 f/2.8 II--first impressions.

Yeah, I hope he replies. I'm genuinely curious and not trying to flame anyone.

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dave_bass5
dave_bass5 Veteran Member • Posts: 6,924
Re: Just got my 24-70 f/2.8 II--first impressions.

hotdog321 wrote:

Oh, I read plenty of glowing reviews, but I had a "blind spot" about the front elements racking in and out. In hindsight I sorta remember, but the remnants of my brain blanked it out.

It wouldn't have made any difference in my purchase, but it is somewhat surprising (to me) since both the 16-35 and 70-200 use an internal racking design.

Ah right. I thought that was the case. Sorry for the confusion.

Its funny but ive never owned the MKI, but by the sounds of it i would have preferred the backwards zoom. I tend to shoot mostly at the long end of the 24-70, but always seem to wind the zoom in after shooting (with all my zooms, just an old habit really). Having 70mm with the zoom retracted actually makes more sense for me.

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Graham Snook
Graham Snook Senior Member • Posts: 2,007
Re: Just got my 24-70 f/2.8 II--first impressions.

1, It will pay for itself many times over in its life time. I've just replaced my 28-70 which lasted 14 years. So in theory you just have to earn $13/month with it to make it worth it

4, Roughly the same weight as the lens it replaced in the line up and the 28-70 before that, so no biggie

5, Can't miss what you haven got.

The biggest drag for me is the shallow lens hood that moves with the end of the lens, I prefered the big one which stayed where it was and gave the lens protection when shooting between 50-70mm

I'm noticing CA at 24mm surprisingly far away from the edge, but it's gone by 28mm

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Kevin Jorgensen Contributing Member • Posts: 745
Re: Just got my 24-70 f/2.8 II--first impressions.

Took my 6 month old 24-105 up to my ''Grey'' dealer in Saigon this morning to get the IS issue fixed. He couldn't give me a turnaround date and given I'm a good customer gave me a new lens instead. Problem was I couldn't tell if the new lens had IS issues or not after a few shots outside his shop. No problems, he kept my 24-105 as a trade in and sold me the new 24-70f2.8L II for $1450. I lost 15% on the 24-105 and that ain't bad for 6 months use. What do I think of the new lens? Its a keeper!

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hotdog321
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Re: Just got my 24-70 f/2.8 II--first impressions.

Funny, I was just thinking the same thing. Wish it had a bigger lens hood to protect that massive front element. I'm not a fan of "protective" filters, but may have to rethink this stance.

I also discovered I'm in the habit of pulling a camera body out of my Domke bag by the lens. When I pulled my new 24-70+body out, it racked out to 70mm. I know there is a lens lock, but I think I'm going to develop new camera handling habits.

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Searching Veteran Member • Posts: 3,450
Hard to believe there were 7 bad copies

that were out there.

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hotdog321
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Just shot my first business portrait with this lens.

Just a heads up for anyone who is following this thread. I just shot my first editorial business portrait with this lens. Initial impressions still stand with two surprises:

1. Everyone says how sharp the 24-70 f/2.8 II lens is--they are right. At f/4.5 it was easily as sharp as my wonderful 70-200!

2. Flare control was just awesome! I was shooting into a bank of fluorescent lights on the wall, and the flare was non-existent. My 70-200 had trouble with the same lights.

I would post some images, but I can't until the story runs. Sorry--maybe later.

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salamander1 Senior Member • Posts: 1,415
Re: Just shot my first business portrait with this lens.

hotdog321 wrote:

Just a heads up for anyone who is following this thread. I just shot my first editorial business portrait with this lens. Initial impressions still stand with two surprises:

1. Everyone says how sharp the 24-70 f/2.8 II lens is--they are right. At f/4.5 it was easily as sharp as my wonderful 70-200!

2. Flare control was just awesome! I was shooting into a bank of fluorescent lights on the wall, and the flare was non-existent. My 70-200 had trouble with the same lights.

I would post some images, but I can't until the story runs. Sorry--maybe later.

good info. thanks for sharing your observations.

- from a future owner of a 24-70 f2.8 II

rebel99 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,025
Re: Just got my 24-70 f/2.8 II--first impressions.

hotdog321 wrote:

Tempting, but I'm a pro using all Canon glass. By this point in my career, I'm going to stick with the Canon stuff unless someone comes out with a truly superior lens that I need. Not a good reason, I know, and folks without deep pockets should definitely investigate the alternatives!

while i am going to get one of these new 24-70 f2.8II teles because i was waiting for it for a long time, just to respond to your statement above, i would like to name a non-canon lens that will beat the pants off of this lens in every aspect (although different FL), and that happens to be zeiss 100mm f2.0 makro! i think this zeiss prime will embarrass any canon lens i know that because i own most of canon primes and this zeiss prime and i am very impressed by zeiss 100 f2.0 IQ!

cheerz.

hotdog321
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Re: Just got my 24-70 f/2.8 II--first impressions.

Zeiss is legendary, true dat! I think if I was a specialist instead of a photojournalist, I would research and buy the very, very best lens I could find. But as a generalist, I tend to just assemble a "good" system.

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hotdog321
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Re: Just shot my first business portrait with this lens.
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You're welcome. I have no vested interest in "selling" Canon gear, but this is a darn good lens. Good thing, considering the cost! I'm still finding it a bit awkward to handle a lens that racks in and out when zooming instead of using an internal zoom mechanism, but that's just me.

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